Another candidate emerges ....... Bills DC
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I love the 3-4... but the history of standing up DEs to fill out your LB corps is not a good one. Certainly our latest example, standing Sheard up, is not the best use of him, but as an experiment at least it was nowhere near Alvin McKinley bad.
wonder what the team would be like if mangini and ryan were still here. hmmmmmm..................
We'd still be running the 3-4 you don't like... but it'd be a fun 3-4.
I love the 3-4... but the history of standing up DEs to fill out your LB corps is not a good one. Certainly our latest example, standing Sheard up, is not the best use of him, but as an experiment at least it was nowhere near Alvin McKinley bad.
We'd still be running the 3-4 you don't like... but it'd be a fun 3-4.
If mangini was still here wed be using old vets that cant get out of thier own fucking way...no thanks...hes a Dufus...
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I love the 3-4... but the history of standing up DEs to fill out your LB corps is not a good one. Certainly our latest example, standing Sheard up, is not the best use of him, but as an experiment at least it was nowhere near Alvin McKinley bad.
We'd still be running the 3-4 you don't like... but it'd be a fun 3-4.
If mangini was still here wed be using old vets that cant get out of thier own fucking way...no thanks...hes a Dufus...
If mangini was still here wed be using old vets that cant get out of thier own fucking way...no thanks...hes a Dufus...
nope, we'd have been sniffing the AFC championship. I guarantee we'd have won the AFC North at least twice by now, for sure this year. The offense Mangini was building was going to steam roll the North for years, he was just missing a qb.
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fuck horton. yeah he was good in ARIZ but look at the talent level, certainly a better D backfield.
i'm just not a 3-4 guy. you need pass rushers on both ends which spreads the OL out more so the DL players have a better chance of getting to the QB also. i saw nothing inventive about horton's D. one thing he did succeed is at not knowing how to adjust at halftime and let the opposing team march back from their defecits only for us to lose our halftime lead.
wonder what the team would be like if mangini and ryan were still here. hmmmmmm..................
fuck horton. yeah he was good in ARIZ but look at the talent level, certainly a better D backfield.
i'm just not a 3-4 guy. you need pass rushers on both ends which spreads the OL out more so the DL players have a better chance of getting to the QB also. i saw nothing inventive about horton's D. one thing he did succeed is at not knowing how to adjust at halftime and let the opposing team march back from their defecits only for us to lose our halftime lead.
wonder what the team would be like if mangini and ryan were still here. hmmmmmm..................
You realize Ryan primarily adheres to the 3-4, right?
Further, in a typical 3-4, the edge rushing OLB's are lined up equally as wide as typical 4-3 defensive ends.
The problem is that Horton's blitzes were I effective. There was a three game span in which Horton called 56 blitzes and yet we recorded zero sacks on those calls. I believe it was weeks 12-14, but I'm not entirely sure.
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In ascending order I would like the next Browns head coach to be Dan Quinn, Rob Ryan or Mike Pettine. I have always favoured a defensive minded HC.
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If mangini was still here wed be using old vets that cant get out of thier own fucking way...no thanks...hes a Dufus...
nope, we'd have been sniffing the AFC championship. I guarantee we'd have won the AFC North at least twice by now, for sure this year. The offense Mangini was building was going to steam roll the North for years, he was just missing a qb.
the QB thing seems to be a common theme...nope, we'd have been sniffing the AFC championship. I guarantee we'd have won the AFC North at least twice by now, for sure this year. The offense Mangini was building was going to steam roll the North for years, he was just missing a qb.
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fuck horton. yeah he was good in ARIZ but look at the talent level, certainly a better D backfield.
i'm just not a 3-4 guy. you need pass rushers on both ends which spreads the OL out more so the DL players have a better chance of getting to the QB also. i saw nothing inventive about horton's D. one thing he did succeed is at not knowing how to adjust at halftime and let the opposing team march back from their defecits only for us to lose our halftime lead.
wonder what the team would be like if mangini and ryan were still here. hmmmmmm..................
You realize Ryan primarily adheres to the 3-4, right?
Further, in a typical 3-4, the edge rushing OLB's are lined up equally as wide as typical 4-3 defensive ends.
The problem is that Horton's blitzes were I effective. There was a three game span in which Horton called 56 blitzes and yet we recorded zero sacks on those calls. I believe it was weeks 12-14, but I'm not entirely sure.
You realize Ryan primarily adheres to the 3-4, right?
Further, in a typical 3-4, the edge rushing OLB's are lined up equally as wide as typical 4-3 defensive ends.
The problem is that Horton's blitzes were I effective. There was a three game span in which Horton called 56 blitzes and yet we recorded zero sacks on those calls. I believe it was weeks 12-14, but I'm not entirely sure.
yes but it is as hybrid as you can get. sometimes he switches to a 4-3 looking scheme. the guy is all over the board which why i think his defenses are always decent given the right personnel.
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You realize Ryan primarily adheres to the 3-4, right?
Further, in a typical 3-4, the edge rushing OLB's are lined up equally as wide as typical 4-3 defensive ends.
The problem is that Horton's blitzes were I effective. There was a three game span in which Horton called 56 blitzes and yet we recorded zero sacks on those calls. I believe it was weeks 12-14, but I'm not entirely sure.
yes but it is as hybrid as you can get. sometimes he switches to a 4-3 looking scheme. the guy is all over the board which why i think his defenses are always decent given the right personnel.
yes but it is as hybrid as you can get. sometimes he switches to a 4-3 looking scheme. the guy is all over the board which why i think his defenses are always decent given the right personnel.
The best DCs are the ones who can build their scheme based on personnel.
That's what Horton promised (and failed). I think someone like Mike Zimmer is almost as good as it gets. But good bigger names haven't been talked about.
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If mangini was still here wed be using old vets that cant get out of thier own fucking way...no thanks...hes a Dufus...
nope, we'd have been sniffing the AFC championship. I guarantee we'd have won the AFC North at least twice by now, for sure this year. The offense Mangini was building was going to steam roll the North for years, he was just missing a qb.
nope, we'd have been sniffing the AFC championship. I guarantee we'd have won the AFC North at least twice by now, for sure this year. The offense Mangini was building was going to steam roll the North for years, he was just missing a qb.
TBH, I don't remember us building an O.
What I do remember is an exciting, overachieving, innovative D and a team attitude that certainly showed on the offensive side of the ball as well.
The problem is that Horton's blitzes were I(n)effective. There was a three game span in which Horton called 56 blitzes and yet we recorded zero sacks on those calls. I believe it was weeks 12-14, but I'm not entirely sure.
I believe you skipped an "n".
I knew there was a long dry-spell in there, but had not idea it was that long. All I know is that we always seemed to blitz into space occupied by an awaiting blocker, while in game after other game I'd watch, blitzers looped into free runs at the QB.
Whether it was due to poor design, disguise or execution, our blitzes were ineffective way too often...
sometimes he switches to a 4-3 looking scheme. the guy is all over the board which why i think his defenses are always decent given the right personnel.
LOL... I still remember the first time we saw Rob's 1-4-6 Defense... everyone except a DE in a 2-point stance.
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nope, we'd have been sniffing the AFC championship. I guarantee we'd have won the AFC North at least twice by now, for sure this year. The offense Mangini was building was going to steam roll the North for years, he was just missing a qb.
TBH, I don't remember us building an O.
What I do remember is an exciting, overachieving, innovative D and a team attitude that certainly showed on the offensive side of the ball as well.
The problem is that Horton's blitzes were I(n)effective. There was a three game span in which Horton called 56 blitzes and yet we recorded zero sacks on those calls. I believe it was weeks 12-14, but I'm not entirely sure.
I believe you skipped an "n".
I knew there was a long dry-spell in there, but had not idea it was that long. All I know is that we always seemed to blitz into space occupied by an awaiting blocker, while in game after other game I'd watch, blitzers looped into free runs at the QB.
Whether it was due to poor design, disguise or execution, our blitzes were ineffective way too often...
sometimes he switches to a 4-3 looking scheme. the guy is all over the board which why i think his defenses are always decent given the right personnel.
LOL... I still remember the first time we saw Rob's 1-4-6 Defense... everyone except a DE in a 2-point stance.
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Very well... I think it was the NE game.
I seem to remember reading Brady's lips after he walked up to the line of scrimage on a 3rd and long down around our 20.
Anyway he saw that D and I believe he said something along the lines of, "What the Fuck?"... Anyway he proceeded to muff a handoff and then got into a shouting match with his RB, Woodhead.
I was in THE BrownsBacker bar in the Houston area and as Woodhead was going back at Tom, I yelled, "You run it... you're bigger than me."
Next thing I knew I was handed a free beer...
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Bernie Kosar should be the next head coach.
Bernie Kosar is in no physical condition to handle the daily rigors of coaching...
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