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  • @hoorta said:

    Sure, that's why Haslam is sinking $60 million of his own money into stadium upgrades, so he can move the team to LA. Kindly get real. Even for a billionaire, that's not exactly chump change.

    The red is better phrased. And I think you're in a large part right. This is Holmgren part 2. Haslam liked Banner, and then Bummer brings in all his old pals to work for him.

    Jimmy spent all of his money buying the browns..is it "his" money...or an extension of the sin tax thats gonna pay for it (renovations)..trust Me...this team is gearing up for a move if things dont shape up very soon.

    @nickers said:

    Jimmy spent all of his money buying the browns..is it "his" money...or an extension of the sin tax thats gonna pay for it (renovations)..trust Me...this team is gearing up for a move if things dont shape up very soon.

    Go- look up who's paying for what- (it's not that hard) I'm not going to bother with your misguided fantasy anymore.

  • @ballpeen said:

    Nope. Not time for concern. The sky isn't falling.

    The time to get concerned is if we offer jobs and get turned down.

    Calm down folks. We will have a head coach and won't have any problem filling the staff with qualified coaches. You guys are acting like the new HC was going to keep all of the bums who filled the last staff.

    I wouldn't want them...they coached our players to 4 wins.

    That sucks in anybodys book.

    Wow, really?? "Not time for concern"? I hope I'm not around when it finally is "time for concern" in your eyes.

    @d-bone said:

    Wow, really?? "Not time for concern"? I hope I'm not around when it finally is "time for concern" in your eyes.

    We are doing exactly what Haslam said we would. He clearly said this could go past the SuperBowl. Had he said we would have a coach in a week we were now here, yep, I would be concerned.

    I get that some of you like Chud, and the firing caught me off guard as well, but facts are facts. Chud couldn't win as many games as the meek Pat Shurmer could, with a better roster and a weaker schedule.

    Fuck Chud.

  • I prefer to not blame Chud for the Bess trade or the tough season. The Browns looked pretty terrific to me when Hoyer

    was starting.

    The coaches justifiably went with the idea that everybody had a new start with them.

    Weedone failed. Hoyer took off and got hurt.

    After that, Campbell tried not to fail, Richardson was traded (not complaining about THAT one!), a few

    other injuries occured, like Dion Lewis. After that, it was the offense struggling, and the defense constantly

    getting worn out.

    Fook this Browns front office for the knee jerk reaction. I suppose they will keep firing hc's until they accidently?

    draft well enough to have the right talent in place for a coach to win.

  • I was concerned until I heard john madden on radio said browns could be in catbird seat. get the pick of the best teams as their coach. so maybe we only need to wait and see

  • @d-bone said:

    Yep, Jimmy has done, or more accurately let someone else do, what even Art Modell couldn't do to me. Suck the brown and orange right out of me. I almost don't care anymore and that sucks.

    Thats how Haslam and company want you to feel....this way they can buy theyre way out of the lease and move the team to LA..It's gonna happen.

    @nickers said:

    Thats how Haslam and company want you to feel....this way they can buy theyre way out of the lease and move the team to LA..It's gonna happen.

    Good! I say send this clusterfuck organization posing as the Cleveland Browns to Los Angeles, and COMPLETELY hit the damn reset button! Hey why not? If we're gonna keep blowing it up, why not do it right, and start completely over again with a whole new Cleveland Browns team? As it stands this current organization is an embarrassment and has made a complete mockery of a great football tradition! 😡 Let's lobby the NFL! Though we do get to keep Haden, Mack, Thomas, Ward, Gordon, and Hoyer. The rest can go!

  • @nickers said:

    Thats how Haslam and company want you to feel....this way they can buy theyre way out of the lease and move the team to LA..It's gonna happen.

    Good! I say send this clusterfuck organization posing as the Cleveland Browns to Los Angeles, and COMPLETELY hit the damn reset button! Hey why not? If we're gonna keep blowing it up, why not do it right, and start completely over again with a whole new Cleveland Browns team? As it stands this current organization is an embarrassment and has made a complete mockery of a great football tradition! 😡 Let's lobby the NFL! Though we do get to keep Haden, Mack, Thomas, Ward, Gordon, and Hoyer. The rest can go!

    @djdawg2010 said:

    Good! I say send this clusterfuck organization posing as the Cleveland Browns to Los Angeles, and COMPLETELY hit the damn reset button! Hey why not? If we're gonna keep blowing it up, why not do it right, and start completely over again with a whole new Cleveland Browns team? As it stands this current organization is an embarrassment and has made a complete mockery of a great football tradition! 😡 Let's lobby the NFL! Though we do get to keep Haden, Mack, Thomas, Ward, Gordon, and Hoyer. The rest can go!

    There won't be a reset button on any future move. (I'm assuming this wasn't supposed to be pink font).

  • @djdawg2010 said:

    Good! I say send this clusterfuck organization posing as the Cleveland Browns to Los Angeles, and COMPLETELY hit the damn reset button! Hey why not? If we're gonna keep blowing it up, why not do it right, and start completely over again with a whole new Cleveland Browns team? As it stands this current organization is an embarrassment and has made a complete mockery of a great football tradition! 😡 Let's lobby the NFL! Though we do get to keep Haden, Mack, Thomas, Ward, Gordon, and Hoyer. The rest can go!

    There won't be a reset button on any future move. (I'm assuming this wasn't supposed to be pink font).

    @cuwoohio said:

    There won't be a reset button on any future move. (I'm assuming this wasn't supposed to be pink font).

    ????

  • @nickers said:

    Thats how Haslam and company want you to feel....this way they can buy theyre way out of the lease and move the team to LA..It's gonna happen.

    Good! I say send this clusterfuck organization posing as the Cleveland Browns to Los Angeles, and COMPLETELY hit the damn reset button! Hey why not? If we're gonna keep blowing it up, why not do it right, and start completely over again with a whole new Cleveland Browns team? As it stands this current organization is an embarrassment and has made a complete mockery of a great football tradition! 😡 Let's lobby the NFL! Though we do get to keep Haden, Mack, Thomas, Ward, Gordon, and Hoyer. The rest can go!

    @djdawg2010 said:

    Good! I say send this clusterfuck organization posing as the Cleveland Browns to Los Angeles, and COMPLETELY hit the damn reset button! Hey why not? If we're gonna keep blowing it up, why not do it right, and start completely over again with a whole new Cleveland Browns team? As it stands this current organization is an embarrassment and has made a complete mockery of a great football tradition! 😡 Let's lobby the NFL! Though we do get to keep Haden, Mack, Thomas, Ward, Gordon, and Hoyer. The rest can go!

    Sorry you won't be able to cherry-pick who stays and who goes. For those who think otherwise it's a damn fact Haslam is sinking $60 million of his own money into stadium improvements (though it's a low interest loan from the NFL) Sin tax extension will pay for the rest. You can also bet in exchange for ponying up the cash, the City of Cleveland is going to demand an extension on the lease.

    If some of you want to dream a fairly smart businessman like Jimmy would sink that much of his own money into First Energy only to uproot the team, well, you must be smoking the good stuff you got on a road trip to Colorado.

  • @djdawg2010 said:

    Good! I say send this clusterfuck organization posing as the Cleveland Browns to Los Angeles, and COMPLETELY hit the damn reset button! Hey why not? If we're gonna keep blowing it up, why not do it right, and start completely over again with a whole new Cleveland Browns team? As it stands this current organization is an embarrassment and has made a complete mockery of a great football tradition! 😡 Let's lobby the NFL! Though we do get to keep Haden, Mack, Thomas, Ward, Gordon, and Hoyer. The rest can go!

    Sorry you won't be able to cherry-pick who stays and who goes. For those who think otherwise it's a damn fact Haslam is sinking $60 million of his own money into stadium improvements (though it's a low interest loan from the NFL) Sin tax extension will pay for the rest. You can also bet in exchange for ponying up the cash, the City of Cleveland is going to demand an extension on the lease.

    If some of you want to dream a fairly smart businessman like Jimmy would sink that much of his own money into First Energy only to uproot the team, well, you must be smoking the good stuff you got on a road trip to Colorado.

    @hoorta said:

    Sorry you won't be able to cherry-pick who stays and who goes. For those who think otherwise it's a damn fact Haslam is sinking $60 million of his own money into stadium improvements (though it's a low interest loan from the NFL) Sin tax extension will pay for the rest. You can also bet in exchange for ponying up the cash, the City of Cleveland is going to demand an extension on the lease.

    If some of you want to dream a fairly smart businessman like Jimmy would sink that much of his own money into First Energy only to uproot the team, well, you must be smoking the good stuff you got on a road trip to Colorado.

    Shhhh. You aren't allowed to post logic on this forum.

  • I was convinced Gase was the man, but now he isn't, something is seriously wrong.

  • I was convinced Gase was the man, but now he isn't, something is seriously wrong.

    @londonbrown said:

    I was convinced Gase was the man, but now he isn't, something is seriously wrong.

    LOL, you just figured that out? No insult intended. 🙂

    It started with firing Chud- probably the worst coaching firing since Modell let Marty walk, or the Paul Brown firing. LOL, you want to talk about a track record, look at who he let go- Brown, Marty and Bellchick. One is in the HOF, Bill is a mortal lock when he hangs 'em up, and Marty is a near miss- he only needed a SB win to join the club.

    The Browns FO is now officially up shit creek without a paddle. Should (last chance) Quinn turn them down, they're going to have zero credibility with the fans, and as others have suggested at that point Haslam's best move would be to totally clean house and send Banner and Lombardi out the door too.

  • I.... just... feel... numb....

    C',mon Quinn.... please...

  • I have read over and over about how the Browns are stupid and how they are making a terrible mistake and how they don't have a clue as to what they are doing. I don't see it that way. While Lombardi can't leave fast enough for me, they way this is panning out seems to be exactly what Jimmy sad it would be. He clearly stated that it could take a long time to make a hire and that he knew the fans would not be too happy. And I know that firing Chud was not the popular choice. But I commend the FO for making a decision and standing by it. Yes, I do hope they make the right choice, but that is clearly what they are trying to do! Did you want them to hire the first person they talked to? I sure as hell didn't.

    As pointed out previously, Mora Jr. Only got 1 year in Seattle. That turned out alright! And how many people were in support of Tomlin getting the job in shitsburg? Not many. Again, that didn't turn out bad (well...for them at least). I really don't care who their first choice was, or how many people they interview. I just don't want them to make a quick decision like last year just because it is perceived by the fans that we have to have a coach immediately. Jimmy and Joe, take your time and get it right. We, the fans, will have your back. Just give this new team a shot to succeed. If you blow it up again this time next year, all bets are off!

  • I have read over and over about how the Browns are stupid and how they are making a terrible mistake and how they don't have a clue as to what they are doing. I don't see it that way. While Lombardi can't leave fast enough for me, they way this is panning out seems to be exactly what Jimmy sad it would be. He clearly stated that it could take a long time to make a hire and that he knew the fans would not be too happy. And I know that firing Chud was not the popular choice. But I commend the FO for making a decision and standing by it. Yes, I do hope they make the right choice, but that is clearly what they are trying to do! Did you want them to hire the first person they talked to? I sure as hell didn't.

    As pointed out previously, Mora Jr. Only got 1 year in Seattle. That turned out alright! And how many people were in support of Tomlin getting the job in shitsburg? Not many. Again, that didn't turn out bad (well...for them at least). I really don't care who their first choice was, or how many people they interview. I just don't want them to make a quick decision like last year just because it is perceived by the fans that we have to have a coach immediately. Jimmy and Joe, take your time and get it right. We, the fans, will have your back. Just give this new team a shot to succeed. If you blow it up again this time next year, all bets are off!

    @lcdawgfan13 said:

    I have read over and over about how the Browns are stupid and how they are making a terrible mistake and how they don't have a clue as to what they are doing. I don't see it that way. While Lombardi can't leave fast enough for me, they way this is panning out seems to be exactly what Jimmy sad it would be. He clearly stated that it could take a long time to make a hire and that he knew the fans would not be too happy. And I know that firing Chud was not the popular choice. But I commend the FO for making a decision and standing by it. Yes, I do hope they make the right choice, but that is clearly what they are trying to do! Did you want them to hire the first person they talked to? I sure as hell didn't.

    As pointed out previously, Mora Jr. Only got 1 year in Seattle. That turned out alright! And how many people were in support of Tomlin getting the job in shitsburg? Not many. Again, that didn't turn out bad (well...for them at least). I really don't care who their first choice was, or how many people they interview. I just don't want them to make a quick decision like last year just because it is perceived by the fans that we have to have a coach immediately. Jimmy and Joe, take your time and get it right. We, the fans, will have your back. Just give this new team a shot to succeed. If you blow it up again this time next year, all bets are off!

    You really believe they planned on NOT landing McDaniels or Gase? I think that is between overly optimistic and naive. Jimmy realizes the fans are onto that and that is why he issued his very thinly veiled damage control apology to the fans. If you think at this point they are not settling for people who were not on their shortlist you are drinking the koolaid for sure.

  • Jcamm...

    I am not saying that Mcdoofus and Gase were not on their short list. What I am saying is that they were obviously not the right guy for the job. If they flip-flop on what they want to do in regard to taking interviews, what kind of decision making are they really capable of. We've already seen that Josh McDaniels is not exactly a fantastic head coach prospect. And Gase is simply along for the ride as long as Manning can keep carrying him. Not many people on here really seemed to want either of them anyway. So why now are we bitching about them backing out? I personally think the biggest mistake made in all this was not putting Lovie on the short list. I do think their original thoughts were ruined already, but I would now rather see them take their time and explore all possibilities and hopefully make the right choice! Would you rather them make a kneejerk decision?

  • I agree man. The Sky is Falling, Chicken Little crowd is getting old.

  • Oh I know. Candidates are always taking themselves out of consideration for head coaching jobs in the nfl. It's perfectly normal. Happens all the time to every team, right? There's no reason to be concerned.

  • chud was a dud.

    but to have no backup plan from point A to point B is just bad management/personnel department decision making.

    so if quinn says no, THEN they'll be a cause for concern? or when they hire BGSU or Toledo HC and say that was the guy they wanted all along?

  • I agree man. The Sky is Falling, Chicken Little crowd is getting old.

    @ballpeen said:

    I agree man. The Sky is Falling, Chicken Little crowd is getting old.

    I do not think that our voicing our displeasure on a search that has obviously not gone as planned is "sky is falling" . To assume that all of the people on the short list were turned down by our FO is naive. We may end up with the greatest head coach of all time and I damn sure hope that is what happens. Having said that equally as frustrating as chicken little is people who's heads are buried in the sand with undue optimism.

  • maybe they can start looking at coaches from the CFL?