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S&W, Ruger to stop selling semi automatic handguns in California

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  • FairHooker11 F Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
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    F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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    perhaps the DC lobbyists are being stonewalled?

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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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      It's all about the liberals in gov wanting desperately to know where guns are. Why?

      So they can misuse the information, find out who has guns and which ones, so they can

      try to instill fear of families' security, intimidate, socially ostracize gun supporters and owners,

      into keeping quiet and either give up their guns, or be taxed out the wazoo to be allowed to own them.

      Another glaring aspect of anti--gun reality - going after law abiding American citizens instead

      of criminals who should not have guns.

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      Newspaper conglomerate considers building massive database of gun owners
      Posted on: January 24th, 2014

      The second project examines the explosion of ‘conceal and carry’ gun permits across the U.S. Through public records act requests, we will attempt to build state-by-state databases that list those who have the right to carry a concealed weapon.
      Check it out:

      A U.S. newspaper conglomerate has considered building state-by-state databases of people who have the right to carry concealed firearms.

      Civitas Media, which owns 88 newspapers in 12 states and more than 100 total publications, is planning to use public records requests to build their databases, according to an internal Civitas email obtained by the Buckeye Firearms Association in Ohio.

      Civitas director of content Jim Lawitz emailed content directors, managers, and producers in a January 19 email, saying that exploring the “explosion” of conceal and carry permits in the U.S. will be one of the company’s short-term objectives.

      - See more at: http://patriotoutdoornews.com/8862/newspaper-conglomerate-considers-building-massive-database-gun-owners

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        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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        There was an uproar a few years back over a newspaper (can't remember where off the top of my head) that used the public records to publish the names and addresses of all CCW permit holders in the area. The cunts didn't take into account that some of the names and addresses were of women who got the permit to protect them from abusive ex spouses/boyfriends. Now there home addresses were available to anyone of the guys who wanted to look at the paper.

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          Was that the NY fiasco? Worse, police had their names and addresses revealed,

          and those with no guns became open "safer" targets.

          It was a disaster. It did not make anybody safer...except the criminals.

          The left all too often gets the opposite result of their alleged intent.

          Accidently...or intentionally ???

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            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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            Looked it up. Yeah it was NY.

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              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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              Well guys, they still had their guns so how were they any safer or less safe? Theoretically printing that you were a concealed carry permit holder would make you less of a target for robbery unless guns, indeed, don't actually make you safer.

              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                I think that's half of the point, that they've basically printed a black list of places to not try to rob, which in turn could generate a white list of places to rob.

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                  T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                  You're not any more or less likely to be robbed. First of all, although I have no proof, I'd bet career criminals aren't, on average, reading the newspaper much. Second most burglaries happen when you're not home. How exactly does one's gun keep your home from being robbed when you're not there? It's an inanimate object

                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                    Do you don't need a CCW to have a gun in your house? I didn't think you needed such a permit, unless you carry the gun when you leave your property

                    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                      T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                      No browns you don't.

                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                        Trouble is, an enterprising criminal will know which houses will have guns

                        in them? when somebody goes on vacation.

                        There have been incidents where obituaries led to home invasions....

                        They'll know where to go for guns, and/or where to go where guns aren't.

                        It's a disgrace to use that information for the wrong reasons.

                        Which, is one major reason why "registration" is so unacceptable an idea.

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                          T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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                          Fear mongering propaganda as is the usual on both sides when you talk about guns. If you're so worried somebody is going to burglarize your precious gun you'd lock it on a gun safe and get a security system and have a contact put on your gun safe. Statistically security systems are much better at preventing burglaries than guns because most burglaries occur when the home owner is not there. If you're not there a gun is utterly fucking useless.

                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            Obviously, but some crooks have broken into cheaper gun safes. But like the game warden told me,

                            it's better to video a poacher, and let him handle it, it's bad enough they find out where he lives,

                            but they KNOW where the landowner lives.

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                              Fear mongering propaganda as is the usual on both sides when you talk about guns. If you're so worried somebody is going to burglarize your precious gun you'd lock it on a gun safe and get a security system and have a contact put on your gun safe. Statistically security systems are much better at preventing burglaries than guns because most burglaries occur when the home owner is not there. If you're not there a gun is utterly fucking useless.

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                              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              @the-cysko-kid said:

                              Fear mongering propaganda as is the usual on both sides when you talk about guns. If you're so worried somebody is going to burglarize your precious gun you'd lock it on a gun safe and get a security system and have a contact put on your gun safe. Statistically security systems are much better at preventing burglaries than guns because most burglaries occur when the home owner is not there. If you're not there a gun is utterly fucking useless.

                              That's where you booby trap your property with claymore mines and trip wires.

                              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                @the-cysko-kid said:

                                Fear mongering propaganda as is the usual on both sides when you talk about guns. If you're so worried somebody is going to burglarize your precious gun you'd lock it on a gun safe and get a security system and have a contact put on your gun safe. Statistically security systems are much better at preventing burglaries than guns because most burglaries occur when the home owner is not there. If you're not there a gun is utterly fucking useless.

                                That's where you booby trap your property with claymore mines and trip wires.

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                                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                That's where you booby trap your property with claymore mines and trip wires.

                                Or you can do that, Ted Kaczynski.

                                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                  Wait wait wait... a list of gun owners will make those gun owners houses more likely to be robbed when they are away? Cuz the robbers want the gun? Why, are you just leaving it out on the counter or something?

                                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                    Well guys, they still had their guns so how were they any safer or less safe? Theoretically printing that you were a concealed carry permit holder would make you less of a target for robbery unless guns, indeed, don't actually make you safer.

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                                    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                                    Well guys, they still had their guns so how were they any safer or less safe? Theoretically printing that you were a concealed carry permit holder would make you less of a target for robbery unless guns, indeed, don't actually make you safer.

                                    How about you focus not on robbery and more on the fact that any woman with a CCW who got it because of a restraining order now has their address just floating around as public knowledge? It is a privacy issue that some shit heads decided wasn't important to them. The newspaper editors and writers got irate when their personal information went public after people went fishing for it.

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                                      Wait wait wait... a list of gun owners will make those gun owners houses more likely to be robbed when they are away? Cuz the robbers want the gun? Why, are you just leaving it out on the counter or something?

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                                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      Wait wait wait... a list of gun owners will make those gun owners houses more likely to be robbed when they are away? Cuz the robbers want the gun? Why, are you just leaving it out on the counter or something?

                                      My feeling as well. I live in pillbilly hell (all of WV). A good gun safe is a must because you don't know when your stuff is going to wander off to a pawn shop.

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                                        @the-cysko-kid said:

                                        Well guys, they still had their guns so how were they any safer or less safe? Theoretically printing that you were a concealed carry permit holder would make you less of a target for robbery unless guns, indeed, don't actually make you safer.

                                        How about you focus not on robbery and more on the fact that any woman with a CCW who got it because of a restraining order now has their address just floating around as public knowledge? It is a privacy issue that some shit heads decided wasn't important to them. The newspaper editors and writers got irate when their personal information went public after people went fishing for it.

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        @logicisforsquares said:

                                        How about you focus not on robbery and more on the fact that any woman with a CCW who got it because of a restraining order now has their address just floating around as public knowledge? It is a privacy issue that some shit heads decided wasn't important to them. The newspaper editors and writers got irate when their personal information went public after people went fishing for it.

                                        You can get anyones address and phone number using the internet if you try hard enough

                                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                          @logicisforsquares said:

                                          How about you focus not on robbery and more on the fact that any woman with a CCW who got it because of a restraining order now has their address just floating around as public knowledge? It is a privacy issue that some shit heads decided wasn't important to them. The newspaper editors and writers got irate when their personal information went public after people went fishing for it.

                                          You can get anyones address and phone number using the internet if you try hard enough

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                                          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          You can get anyones address and phone number using the internet if you try hard enough

                                          So it is o.k. for the newspaper to make it easy for psychotic ex husbands? They may have been writers for the Ike Turner Dispatch.

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