FA's worth a look?
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I'm definitely a Decker fan. Not sure Denver will keep him because he'll probably demand a high price, but I'd definitely throw him an offer.
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RB - Toby Gerhardt to complement Dion Lewis and a draft pick
WR- James Jones ( I like Decker but I think his price will be too high)
OG - Osamuah or Swartz
OLB - Brian Orapko
ILB -Donald Butler
DB - Alterraun Verner (if that is a strikeout I say Captain Munnerlyn)
S - Jarius Byrd comes to play with Pettine
RB - Toby Gerhardt to complement Dion Lewis and a draft pick
WR- James Jones ( I like Decker but I think his price will be too high)
OG - Osamuah or Swartz
OLB - Brian Orapko
ILB -Donald Butler
DB - Alterraun Verner (if that is a strikeout I say Captain Munnerlyn)
S - Jarius Byrd comes to play with Pettine
Pass on James Jones.At 30 is an older version of Greg Little, many drops in his career.
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Why wouldn't we be aiming for Decker?
Screw this "price too high, he won't come here" bullshit. You put the best players you can on the field. Throw him a large contract, fuck it.
We're going to have to overpay for any FA, might as well target the best available.
I dont think Decker is that great, and he will command an inflated contract due to his numbers with Manning. There are plenty of options out there for #2 reciever.Why wouldn't we be aiming for Decker?
Screw this "price too high, he won't come here" bullshit. You put the best players you can on the field. Throw him a large contract, fuck it.
We're going to have to overpay for any FA, might as well target the best available.
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RB - Toby Gerhardt to complement Dion Lewis and a draft pick
WR- James Jones ( I like Decker but I think his price will be too high)
OG - Osamuah or Swartz
OLB - Brian Orapko
ILB -Donald Butler
DB - Alterraun Verner (if that is a strikeout I say Captain Munnerlyn)
S - Jarius Byrd comes to play with Pettine
Pass on James Jones.At 30 is an older version of Greg Little, many drops in his career.
Pass on James Jones.At 30 is an older version of Greg Little, many drops in his career.
I am not suggesting James Jones is a number one but comparing his drop issues to Greg Little is absurd. He has had issues with drops from time to time but overall he is vastly superior to Little and a good big redzone target.I certainly would still draft a top talent WR or even still chase Decker.
I like Decker and wouldnt mind paying to get him, I just wonder what a Manningless Decker produces.
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Why wouldn't we be aiming for Decker?
Screw this "price too high, he won't come here" bullshit. You put the best players you can on the field. Throw him a large contract, fuck it.
We're going to have to overpay for any FA, might as well target the best available.
Why wouldn't we be aiming for Decker?
Screw this "price too high, he won't come here" bullshit. You put the best players you can on the field. Throw him a large contract, fuck it.
We're going to have to overpay for any FA, might as well target the best available.
I agree. In almost all cases, FA sign where the money is and not the location. Plus, what's overpaying? I don't think you overpay if the guy you get comes in and gets it done.
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Why wouldn't we be aiming for Decker?
Screw this "price too high, he won't come here" bullshit. You put the best players you can on the field. Throw him a large contract, fuck it.
We're going to have to overpay for any FA, might as well target the best available.
No shit, can the Browns go after the BEST FA at least at one position this yearWhy wouldn't we be aiming for Decker?
Screw this "price too high, he won't come here" bullshit. You put the best players you can on the field. Throw him a large contract, fuck it.
We're going to have to overpay for any FA, might as well target the best available.
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No shit, can the Browns go after the BEST FA at least at one position this yearWhy wouldn't we be aiming for Decker?
Screw this "price too high, he won't come here" bullshit. You put the best players you can on the field. Throw him a large contract, fuck it.
We're going to have to overpay for any FA, might as well target the best available.
I would prefer G, CB or safety. Pettine should bring Byrd with him...No shit, can the Browns go after the BEST FA at least at one position this year
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I would prefer G, CB or safety. Pettine should bring Byrd with him...No shit, can the Browns go after the BEST FA at least at one position this year
Pettine was there for one season. Byrd has been there since 09. He made it to two Pro Bowls without Pettine.XxDaBuckeyexX said:
I would prefer G, CB or safety. Pettine should bring Byrd with him...
It's not like Byrd is a Pettine guy or something.
That would be like Tennessee fans saying "Horton should bring Joe Haden with him"
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Pettine was there for one season. Byrd has been there since 09. He made it to two Pro Bowls without Pettine.XxDaBuckeyexX said:
I would prefer G, CB or safety. Pettine should bring Byrd with him...
It's not like Byrd is a Pettine guy or something.
That would be like Tennessee fans saying "Horton should bring Joe Haden with him"
Except Haden isnt a free agent...he can take Chris Owens with him...Pettine was there for one season. Byrd has been there since 09. He made it to two Pro Bowls without Pettine.
It's not like Byrd is a Pettine guy or something.
That would be like Tennessee fans saying "Horton should bring Joe Haden with him"
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Except Haden isnt a free agent...he can take Chris Owens with him...Pettine was there for one season. Byrd has been there since 09. He made it to two Pro Bowls without Pettine.
It's not like Byrd is a Pettine guy or something.
That would be like Tennessee fans saying "Horton should bring Joe Haden with him"
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Except Haden isnt a free agent...he can take Chris Owens with him...
Okay, TJ Ward. Better?
Point is, Byrd is about as loyal to Pettine as Haslam is to coaches.
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Pass on James Jones.At 30 is an older version of Greg Little, many drops in his career.
I am not suggesting James Jones is a number one but comparing his drop issues to Greg Little is absurd. He has had issues with drops from time to time but overall he is vastly superior to Little and a good big redzone target.I certainly would still draft a top talent WR or even still chase Decker.
I like Decker and wouldnt mind paying to get him, I just wonder what a Manningless Decker produces.
I am not suggesting James Jones is a number one but comparing his drop issues to Greg Little is absurd. He has had issues with drops from time to time but overall he is vastly superior to Little and a good big redzone target.I certainly would still draft a top talent WR or even still chase Decker.
I like Decker and wouldnt mind paying to get him, I just wonder what a Manningless Decker produces.
Drops are drops comparing Jones to Little isn't absurd.To bring in a 30 year old receiver is absurd when your able to bring in younger guys who can hang on to the ball.
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Im confused as to why some people are worried about money. We have so much cap space, from my understanding its hovering around 24 mil. If anyone can provide a large contract its us. Decker is worth the money. I want a proven wr that is strong and tall. Also, we need to take the pressure off of Gordon.
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Im confused as to why some people are worried about money. We have so much cap space, from my understanding its hovering around 24 mil. If anyone can provide a large contract its us. Decker is worth the money. I want a proven wr that is strong and tall. Also, we need to take the pressure off of Gordon.
Decker looks pretty good with Manning tossin him the rock, doesnt he? Id rather have a quick shifty reciever to go beside Gordon myself. A Randall Cobb type. I think we should throw money at DBs or OLine help. Plenty of recievers available for cheaper, or in the draft that would improve our #2 reciever.Im confused as to why some people are worried about money. We have so much cap space, from my understanding its hovering around 24 mil. If anyone can provide a large contract its us. Decker is worth the money. I want a proven wr that is strong and tall. Also, we need to take the pressure off of Gordon.
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Im confused as to why some people are worried about money. We have so much cap space, from my understanding its hovering around 24 mil. If anyone can provide a large contract its us. Decker is worth the money. I want a proven wr that is strong and tall. Also, we need to take the pressure off of Gordon.
Money is kinda a concern because we'll need to resign ward/mack and have Cameron/Haden next year.Im confused as to why some people are worried about money. We have so much cap space, from my understanding its hovering around 24 mil. If anyone can provide a large contract its us. Decker is worth the money. I want a proven wr that is strong and tall. Also, we need to take the pressure off of Gordon.
We definitely should consider going after a big name FA though, but it will require overpaying.
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" Decker looks pretty good with Manning tossin him the rock, doesnt he? Id rather have a quick shifty reciever to go beside Gordon myself. A Randall Cobb type. I think we should throw money at DBs or OLine help. Plenty of recievers available for cheaper, or in the draft that would improve our #2 reciever."
Yes, he does look great! Though, I believe his numbers aren't inflated and he is a true talent. Who do you want in the draft that meets your wr qualifications: watkins, evans, robinson?
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Well I wouldn't rule out an Evans or Robinson if theyre available at 26. Rather use a 2nd or 3rd on a Abberderis, Beckham. Ill know more after the combine, but I dont think we should spend big money or draft picks on a WR seeing how we have a top 5 guy already. Id rather have another TE than spending big on Decker or Watkins. My bet is Decker stays put and they let Welker walk anyways.
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I need to hear what we plan on doing with the defense before I make opinions on FA's. If we stay in the 3-4 I would absolutely suggest targeting Orakpo. If someone would take Krugers contract off our hands that would work out well. If we go to the 4-3 than that Cincy guy might not be a bad idea.
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I need to hear what we plan on doing with the defense before I make opinions on FA's. If we stay in the 3-4 I would absolutely suggest targeting Orakpo. If someone would take Krugers contract off our hands that would work out well. If we go to the 4-3 than that Cincy guy might not be a bad idea.
I think we'll be doing a little bit of both, and the way Krugers contract is set up, we can release him for almost nothing. Orakpo would be way more expensive than Kruger, but hes also way better. No way he gets out of Washington imo.I need to hear what we plan on doing with the defense before I make opinions on FA's. If we stay in the 3-4 I would absolutely suggest targeting Orakpo. If someone would take Krugers contract off our hands that would work out well. If we go to the 4-3 than that Cincy guy might not be a bad idea.
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I am not suggesting James Jones is a number one but comparing his drop issues to Greg Little is absurd. He has had issues with drops from time to time but overall he is vastly superior to Little and a good big redzone target.I certainly would still draft a top talent WR or even still chase Decker.
I like Decker and wouldnt mind paying to get him, I just wonder what a Manningless Decker produces.
Drops are drops comparing Jones to Little isn't absurd.To bring in a 30 year old receiver is absurd when your able to bring in younger guys who can hang on to the ball.
Drops are drops comparing Jones to Little isn't absurd.To bring in a 30 year old receiver is absurd when your able to bring in younger guys who can hang on to the ball
As of October 2013 ( I will find complete season stats as well)
Number format is catches, drops, catchable , drop rate
Top 10 WR for least amount of drops / lowest drop rate with at least 20 passes
1 Larry Fitzgerald ARZ 36 0 36 0
2 Torrey Smith BAL 31 0 31 0
3 DeAndre Hopkins HST 28 0 28 0
4 Vincent Brown SD 26 0 26 0
5 Marvin Jones CIN 24 0 24 0
6 Doug Baldwin SEA 23 0 23 0
7 Rod Streater OAK 23 0 23 0
8 James Jones GB 20 0 20 0
9 Antonio Brown PIT 56 1 57 1.75
10 Andre Johnson HST 48 1 49 2.04
Worst Receivers with at least 20 attempts
1 Davone Bess CLV 28 9 37 24.32
2 Aaron Dobson NE 26 8 34 23.53
3 Santana Moss WAS 19 5 24 20.83
4 Ace Sanders JAX 16 4 20 20.00
5 Greg Little CLV 21 5 26 19.23
6 Mike Wallace MIA 30 7 37 18.92
7 Darrius Heyward-Bey IND 18 4 22 18.18
8 Rueben Randle NYG 23 5 28 17.86
9 Danny Amendola NE 19 4 23 17.39
10 Kris Durham DET 25 5 30 16.67
Now I know dropped passes are simply one of many stats but you build your whole case on that and age. Yep hes 30 but it doesn't hurt to have a veteran in the core to help the young guys. AGAIN I am not saying he is going to be a TD God, simply a good value pick up for a year or two IMO.
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