S&W, Ruger to stop selling semi automatic handguns in California
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I have a friend named Rob who just had a couple of expensive guns stolen from his home by a supposed friend. Go ahead, ask if they were locked up appropriately or if they were just under the couch cushion because that made him feel safer.
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See I'm in the middle. Of course its not alright to print someone's information. It's also not alright for the gun people to press for more guns, less restrictions and allow anyone to have one no questions asked. Why should one side pretend to be reasonable and the other side trots out Wayne lapierre and insists the only way to protect children is with, of course, more guns. One side is clearly unwilling to work towards real solutions, blaming media, blaming video games blaming everything but the irresponsible gun owners and gun policies that allow anyone to get their hands on a gun. I've stated before on this forum I have four guns. A rifle, a shotgun and two handguns. Theyre locked up tight and you'd have to defeat both the gun safe and the security system and get out within five minutes to steal them. Good luck.
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I am beginning to think you are a contrarian shit head just for the sake of it. You see zero problem with someone's personal information being posted in a newspaper without their consent?
No shit? I've said as much many times. Most of the time I am just doing it for the hell of it. To play devils advocate. But really that information is there for the taking so you're just feigning outrage over something that's not very well hidden being printed. If you were thinking logically you'd know that anyone that wanted that information and has a computer can get it.
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No shit? I've said as much many times. Most of the time I am just doing it for the hell of it. To play devils advocate. But really that information is there for the taking so you're just feigning outrage over something that's not very well hidden being printed. If you were thinking logically you'd know that anyone that wanted that information and has a computer can get it.
Oh good, you disagree just because. You will make an excellent nagging wife.
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I know totally, right? No lock has EVER been broken!!
What are you locking yours up with? Luggage locks? If gun owners would just take some responsibility the means to protect them are out there
What are you locking yours up with? Luggage locks? If gun owners would just take some responsibility the means to protect them are out there
Mine are well locked up. Bedside safe, closet vaults (floor safe). If somebody wants my guns (when I'm not home) they're gonna have to work for them. But they're not impenetrable.
I hope you're kidding with that shit.
Doesn't mean I want the NY Fucking times to advertise that I have them. I CCW for the same reason.
But you're probably right. I should be charged for murder when my house is broken into, my safes are broken into, my guns are stolen, and a crime is committed with them. Makes perfect sense.
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What are you locking yours up with? Luggage locks? If gun owners would just take some responsibility the means to protect them are out there
Mine are well locked up. Bedside safe, closet vaults (floor safe). If somebody wants my guns (when I'm not home) they're gonna have to work for them. But they're not impenetrable.
I hope you're kidding with that shit.
Doesn't mean I want the NY Fucking times to advertise that I have them. I CCW for the same reason.
But you're probably right. I should be charged for murder when my house is broken into, my safes are broken into, my guns are stolen, and a crime is committed with them. Makes perfect sense.
Mine are well locked up. Bedside safe, closet vaults (floor safe). If somebody wants my guns (when I'm not home) they're gonna have to work for them. But they're not impenetrable.
I hope you're kidding with that shit.
Doesn't mean I want the NY Fucking times to advertise that I have them. I CCW for the same reason.
But you're probably right. I should be charged for murder when my house is broken into, my safes are broken into, my guns are stolen, and a crime is committed with them. Makes perfect sense.
If you can find where I said that I might act like you're making sense.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
How about this? Get a security system then unless the fucking joker is robbing you they won't have time to fuck around in your gun safe
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On tv, they simply disable or misdirect the security system.
I am researching ar-15's now. I need night vision etc for coyotes. The tracks
are back, and way too close to the house.
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On tv, they simply disable or misdirect the security system.
I am researching ar-15's now. I need night vision etc for coyotes. The tracks
are back, and way too close to the house.
On tv, they simply disable or misdirect the security system.
I am researching ar-15's now. I need night vision etc for coyotes. The tracks
are back, and way too close to the house.
get a 30-06. Nice weapon and it will have no problem with a coyote. Or anything else for that matter. It is also a lot easier to get.
No one cares if you have a 30-06, but for some reason an AR-15 is bad
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If you want a run down on ARs just let me know. Budget?
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Mine are well locked up. Bedside safe, closet vaults (floor safe). If somebody wants my guns (when I'm not home) they're gonna have to work for them. But they're not impenetrable.
I hope you're kidding with that shit.
Doesn't mean I want the NY Fucking times to advertise that I have them. I CCW for the same reason.
But you're probably right. I should be charged for murder when my house is broken into, my safes are broken into, my guns are stolen, and a crime is committed with them. Makes perfect sense.
If you can find where I said that I might act like you're making sense.
Your whole "responsibility" bullshit. You've repeatedly argued that if gun owners aren't responsible for how their guns are stored/ secured they should be responsible for the crimes committed with them.If you can find where I said that I might act like you're making sense.
Don't be a backtracking pussy.
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If you want a run down on ARs just let me know. Budget? Logic
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I was thinkin 8-10, til we ordered new windows a couple of days ago.
It's been 22 yrs, finest windows we've ever seen...big bucks.
More like a starter outfit, so I can add cool stuff to it the next year or two.
I think a guy I know has one, that will shoot both .22, and mod to 5.56.
That would be excellent one of these days....With night vision. @@
I have to research it to know what I'm talking about.
But the fun of it is all the different ways it can be modified.
Note to anti-AR-15ners: Which, btw, cannot be modified to automatic like has been said here in the past.
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Cysko - "Lanza" thread "reducing gun violence" from a year ago is where you'll find your "responsibility" position.
Not sure how to link it on my phone.
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If you are using it for coyote slaying, just about any brand is fine. That isn't a popular opinion but not everyone is going to abuse their gear. I pay a bit more because I participate in a lot of shooting courses and treat my guns like tools. I need guns that can survive me haha.
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Your whole "responsibility" bullshit. You've repeatedly argued that if gun owners aren't responsible for how their guns are stored/ secured they should be responsible for the crimes committed with them.If you can find where I said that I might act like you're making sense.
Don't be a backtracking pussy.
Your whole "responsibility" bullshit. You've repeatedly argued that if gun owners aren't responsible for how their guns are stored/ secured they should be responsible for the crimes committed with them.
Don't be a backtracking pussy.
Don't be a moron. I've never said the owner of a randomly stolen gun should be responsible for a murder commuted with it. However Nancy lanza should be held responsible for making guns freely available to a known damaged madman who murdered 20 children. 20 innocent children and six adults paid with their lives for Nancy Lanzas criminal negligence. That's a real consequence of irresponsibility. Let's hopetotger gun owners are smart enough to take the necessary precautions to never have to face such consequences. Of course they won't because as we all well know nothing bad could ever happen to US just people on tv, right?
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
On tv, they simply disable or misdirect the security system.
I am researching ar-15's now. I need night vision etc for coyotes. The tracks
are back, and way too close to the house.
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Your whole "responsibility" bullshit. You've repeatedly argued that if gun owners aren't responsible for how their guns are stored/ secured they should be responsible for the crimes committed with them.
Don't be a backtracking pussy.
Don't be a moron. I've never said the owner of a randomly stolen gun should be responsible for a murder commuted with it. However Nancy lanza should be held responsible for making guns freely available to a known damaged madman who murdered 20 children. 20 innocent children and six adults paid with their lives for Nancy Lanzas criminal negligence. That's a real consequence of irresponsibility. Let's hopetotger gun owners are smart enough to take the necessary precautions to never have to face such consequences. Of course they won't because as we all well know nothing bad could ever happen to US just people on tv, right?
Don't be a moron. I've never said the owner of a randomly stolen gun should be responsible for a murder commuted with it. However Nancy lanza should be held responsible for making guns freely available to a known damaged madman who murdered 20 children. 20 innocent children and six adults paid with their lives for Nancy Lanzas criminal negligence. That's a real consequence of irresponsibility. Let's hopetotger gun owners are smart enough to take the necessary precautions to never have to face such consequences. Of course they won't because as we all well know nothing bad could ever happen to US just people on tv, right?
Nothing like ignoring facts to make your point. The guns Lanza used were stolen, as he was <21 and is not legally allowed to own one. You ignored this a year ago, and are continuing to do so. If Nancy Lanza is "criminally negligent" then so are "Call of Duty" video games, Aspergers Syndrome, Northern Illinois University, and the Norwegian Press.
Adam Lanza? Completely innocent. Victim.
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If you are using it for coyote slaying, just about any brand is fine. That isn't a popular opinion but not everyone is going to abuse their gear. I pay a bit more because I participate in a lot of shooting courses and treat my guns like tools. I need guns that can survive me haha. Logic
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Well, I'm out in the elements a lot. Cold, rain, snow, hot sun, woods. The synthetic stock would be good.
My guns are far more old school. In fact, I wish I could start loading my own 12 gauge
black powder shotgun shells for my (inherited from my Dad) double barrel, ya can't buy them anymore.
But I would target practice a lot. Shooting across ten acres with my .22 mag isn't very accurate apparently.
I have to get out the laser bore sighter I bought and check out what's goin on. I have CaddyShack groundhog
syndrome. The buggers dance and mock me when I miss. lol
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Don't be a moron. I've never said the owner of a randomly stolen gun should be responsible for a murder commuted with it. However Nancy lanza should be held responsible for making guns freely available to a known damaged madman who murdered 20 children. 20 innocent children and six adults paid with their lives for Nancy Lanzas criminal negligence. That's a real consequence of irresponsibility. Let's hopetotger gun owners are smart enough to take the necessary precautions to never have to face such consequences. Of course they won't because as we all well know nothing bad could ever happen to US just people on tv, right?
Nothing like ignoring facts to make your point. The guns Lanza used were stolen, as he was <21 and is not legally allowed to own one. You ignored this a year ago, and are continuing to do so. If Nancy Lanza is "criminally negligent" then so are "Call of Duty" video games, Aspergers Syndrome, Northern Illinois University, and the Norwegian Press.
Adam Lanza? Completely innocent. Victim.
Nothing like ignoring facts to make your point. The guns Lanza used were stolen, as he was <21 and is not legally allowed to own one. You ignored this a year ago, and are continuing to do so. If Nancy Lanza is "criminally negligent" then so are "Call of Duty" video games, Aspergers Syndrome, Northern Illinois University, and the Norwegian Press.
Adam Lanza? Completely innocent. Victim.
What's the fact? He broke into someones home and defeated their gun safe to steal them? Or he didn't have to break in anywhere or defeat any safety measure because his mom just had them leaned in a closet somewhere? What's the fact there?
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Who said Adam lanza was a victim? You're trying desperately to deflect the simple fact that he was armed to the teeth as a result of the fact that his mother was a firearm enthusiast who didn't secure her weapons ,properly or at all. Reports are that he tried to purchase his own and was denied. The system works there, for once, and probably only at the discretion of the gun store employee who presumably saw something he didn't like. Good on him. Now does awkward, socially Retarded and strange Adam Lanza have to break into another house and locate the firearms, defeat safety precautions, and get out to get what he wants? Or does he just go home and pick up something he already knows where it is, how to get it, and exactly when mommy would be vulnerable to attack?
Is it easier to rob a bank, or just grab twenty dollars your spouse left lying on the kitchen table? Stop being intentionally dumb. I know you're not a dumb guy.
And yeah, call of duty, the video game, totally left the guns where he could pick them up. Good point.
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There were reports of a safe or safes in the lanza home. He obviously had access to the code (which I agree with you is not smart on the parent's part).
But realistically, what parent doesn't want to encourage their child in a hobby that they themselves enjoy (set aside Lanza's mental capacity, and/or diagnosis)? What parent (even ones that don't completely understand the nature of their child's disorder) doesn't want to treat their kid as "normal"? I think mommy Lanza was more guilty of being a parent, than "criminally negligent" or sinister or whatever she's getting painted as.
Now does awkward, socially Retarded and strange Adam Lanza have to break into another house and locate the firearms, defeat safety precautions, and get out to get what he wants?
The same way any other socially-awkward, strange maniac breaks into a home, and breaks the law. Point?
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