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  • Part of being impact is given talent and part is getting better as time progresses.........a lot of players get no better after say 21 and some keep getting better........and I surmise few talent scouts look at the quality of always improving year after year............

    young people reach there peak when........the key is get guys who are still accelerating to the peak

  • How have CLE's scouts failed miserably? Have you read their scouting reports? Did you see who they recommended? No, you didn't.

    Have you seen Pitt's scouting reports? Have you seen the 31 other teams scouting reports to compare? no you haven't...so saying that 95% are the same is CONJECTURE and Opinion...last time I checked Mayock, Mcxxxxstick, and kiper were TV analyst

  • Pittsburgh has been absolute superior in not overpaying and letting people go who want more than worth..................

    That is also part of the Rooney philosophy stay young and do not overpay and only load the money truck for true franchise players

  • Part of being impact is given talent and part is getting better as time progresses.........a lot of players get no better after say 21 and some keep getting better........and I surmise few talent scouts look at the quality of always improving year after year............

    young people reach there peak when........the key is get guys who are still accelerating to the peak

    @rich4eagle said:

    Part of being impact is given talent and part is getting better as time progresses.........a lot of players get no better after say 21 and some keep getting better........and I surmise few talent scouts look at the quality of always improving year after year............

    young people reach there peak when........the key is get guys who are still accelerating to the peak

    Another thing we'd agree on Rich.

  • How have CLE's scouts failed miserably? Have you read their scouting reports? Did you see who they recommended? No, you didn't.

    Have you seen Pitt's scouting reports? Have you seen the 31 other teams scouting reports to compare? no you haven't...so saying that 95% are the same is CONJECTURE and Opinion...last time I checked Mayock, Mcxxxxstick, and kiper were TV analyst

    @solon16 said:

    How have CLE's scouts failed miserably? Have you read their scouting reports? Did you see who they recommended? No, you didn't.

    Have you seen Pitt's scouting reports? Have you seen the 31 other teams scouting reports to compare? no you haven't...so saying that 95% are the same is CONJECTURE and Opinion...last time I checked Mayock, Mcxxxxstick, and kiper were TV analyst

    Mayock actually scouts and is a former player. McShay has worked as a talent evaluator. They were two examples. I didn't even mention Kiper, who is for sure just a TV talking head. I see you decided to skip ripping scouts inc. Yet in a Rey thread, you'll jump on board with quotes from another scouting service. Hmm....

    Scouts and scouting players are very different than the guy picking players. It's hardly conjecture when I can pull you scouting reports from dozens of scouting services, as well as quotes from actual NFL scouts.

    Saying CLE scouting department and it's current employees, with zero to go on, other than the drafts of two INDIVIDUALS, is conjuncture.

  • Pittsburgh has been absolute superior in not overpaying and letting people go who want more than worth..................

    That is also part of the Rooney philosophy stay young and do not overpay and only load the money truck for true franchise players

    @rich4eagle said:

    Pittsburgh has been absolute superior in not overpaying and letting people go who want more than worth..................

    That is also part of the Rooney philosophy stay young and do not overpay and only load the money truck for true franchise players

    Even more importantly, they never let that guy go until they have someone to fill that hole. The only recent exception is with their OL. But I doubt that will go unresolved.

  • @solon16 said:

    How have CLE's scouts failed miserably? Have you read their scouting reports? Did you see who they recommended? No, you didn't.

    Have you seen Pitt's scouting reports? Have you seen the 31 other teams scouting reports to compare? no you haven't...so saying that 95% are the same is CONJECTURE and Opinion...last time I checked Mayock, Mcxxxxstick, and kiper were TV analyst

    Mayock actually scouts and is a former player. McShay has worked as a talent evaluator. They were two examples. I didn't even mention Kiper, who is for sure just a TV talking head. I see you decided to skip ripping scouts inc. Yet in a Rey thread, you'll jump on board with quotes from another scouting service. Hmm....

    Scouts and scouting players are very different than the guy picking players. It's hardly conjecture when I can pull you scouting reports from dozens of scouting services, as well as quotes from actual NFL scouts.

    Saying CLE scouting department and it's current employees, with zero to go on, other than the drafts of two INDIVIDUALS, is conjuncture.

    Masters said:

    Mayock actually scouts and is a former player. McShay has worked as a talent evaluator. They were two examples. I didn't even mention Kiper, who is for sure just a TV talking head. I see you decided to skip ripping scouts inc. Yet in a Rey thread, you'll jump on board with quotes from another scouting service. Hmm....

    Scouts and scouting players are very different than the guy picking players. It's hardly conjecture when I can pull you scouting reports from dozens of scouting services, as well as quotes from actual NFL scouts.

    Saying CLE scouting department and it's current employees, with zero to go on, other than the drafts of two INDIVIDUALS, is conjuncture.

    Get over it dude...I mentioned off handed we should steal some of pittsbughs STAFF. Quit being a Retard. point is was and shall be people's opinions differ. IF You want to argue that...your stupid! to say if you line up 20 different scouts and 18 are going to have the same opinions is insane!

  • Masters said:

    Mayock actually scouts and is a former player. McShay has worked as a talent evaluator. They were two examples. I didn't even mention Kiper, who is for sure just a TV talking head. I see you decided to skip ripping scouts inc. Yet in a Rey thread, you'll jump on board with quotes from another scouting service. Hmm....

    Scouts and scouting players are very different than the guy picking players. It's hardly conjecture when I can pull you scouting reports from dozens of scouting services, as well as quotes from actual NFL scouts.

    Saying CLE scouting department and it's current employees, with zero to go on, other than the drafts of two INDIVIDUALS, is conjuncture.

    Get over it dude...I mentioned off handed we should steal some of pittsbughs STAFF. Quit being a Retard. point is was and shall be people's opinions differ. IF You want to argue that...your stupid! to say if you line up 20 different scouts and 18 are going to have the same opinions is insane!

    @solon16 said:

    Get over it dude...I mentioned off handed we should steal some of pittsbughs STAFF. Quit being a Retard. point is was and shall be people's opinions differ. IF You want to argue that...your stupid!

    LMFAO....You are the one that changed the subject to complaining about CLE keeping the current scouts 2 months away from the draft. You are the one that can't keep track of what you have posted. Like complaining about people not posting in a thread you start, then complaining when someone responds. Yet I am the Retard? Classic!

    I've tried over and over to give you the benifit of the doubt, but Russ has had you pegged right.

  • to say if you line up 20 different scouts and 18 are going to have the same opinions is insane!

  • @solon16 said:

    Get over it dude...I mentioned off handed we should steal some of pittsbughs STAFF. Quit being a Retard. point is was and shall be people's opinions differ. IF You want to argue that...your stupid!

    LMFAO....You are the one that changed the subject to complaining about CLE keeping the current scouts 2 months away from the draft. You are the one that can't keep track of what you have posted. Like complaining about people not posting in a thread you start, then complaining when someone responds. Yet I am the Retard? Classic!

    I've tried over and over to give you the benifit of the doubt, but Russ has had you pegged right.

    Masters said:

    LMFAO....You are the one that changed the subject to complaining about CLE keeping the current scouts 2 months away from the draft. You are the one that can't keep track of what you have posted. Like complaining about people not posting in a thread you start, then complaining when someone responds. Yet I am the Retard? Classic!

    I've tried over and over to give you the benifit of the doubt, but Russ has had you pegged right.

    I you can't see the sarcasm I'm sorry for you.... "We should steal some of there talent evaluators(scouts)....Kokinis said he's staying with our scouts....How freakin stupid is that??? Go get steeler scouts or NE scouts or Indy scouts.....hey hijack Parcells and water board his ass for how to evaluate 3-4 talent"

    Whatever dude...I have you pegged

  • Evaluating talent, scouting, judging the talent is Hugelly varied...for proof Look at our board...hell look no further that MM saying Andra Davis is as good as Patrick willis.....Couldn't Disagree more. so to telling me that evaluating talent is the same is xxxxingggg nonsense

  • to say if you line up 20 different scouts and 18 are going to have the same opinions is insane!

    @solon16 said:

    to say if you line up 20 different scouts and 18 are going to have the same opinions is insane!

    Look at anyone of the threads on Rey or Curry, where you'll see scouting reports posted from various sources. Each says almost the exact same thing.

  • Simple... Colbert doesn't want to leave. He works for one of the most stable fanchises in the NFL. He and the head coach have 50/50 say in personnel. The only two higher in the organization are Dan and Art jr.

    He was also born and raised in Pittsburgh. His brother coaches St. Vincent's football team where the Steelers training camp is held. He loves being a Steeler, like most.

    Tom Donahue would still be here if he could get along with Cowher.

  • Masters said:

    LMFAO....You are the one that changed the subject to complaining about CLE keeping the current scouts 2 months away from the draft. You are the one that can't keep track of what you have posted. Like complaining about people not posting in a thread you start, then complaining when someone responds. Yet I am the Retard? Classic!

    I've tried over and over to give you the benifit of the doubt, but Russ has had you pegged right.

    I you can't see the sarcasm I'm sorry for you.... "We should steal some of there talent evaluators(scouts)....Kokinis said he's staying with our scouts....How freakin stupid is that??? Go get steeler scouts or NE scouts or Indy scouts.....hey hijack Parcells and water board his ass for how to evaluate 3-4 talent"

    Whatever dude...I have you pegged

    @solon16 said:

    I you can't see the sarcasm I'm sorry for you.... "We should steal some of there talent evaluators(scouts)....Kokinis said he's staying with our scouts....How freakin stupid is that??? Go get steeler scouts or NE scouts or Indy scouts.....hey hijack Parcells and water board his ass for how to evaluate 3-4 talent"

    Whatever dude...I have you pegged

    I you see can't put together a sentence (how's that for sarcasm) 😛

    Yep, you have me pegged. Pegged as someone you now have to start polls about a comment I made, got so worked up over you can't type out a sentence, and go looking for other people for back up. Classic! I never would have thought my two cents carried so much weight.

    Shouldn't you be starting another thread about Rey M or something

  • I was being sarcastic and yes I'll start another Rey thread to be sure! 😴

  • Let's try again............Is the process in Pitt different as to decision making? Is it Kevin Colbert making the decisions?

  • Let's try again............Is the process in Pitt different as to decision making? Is it Kevin Colbert making the decisions?

    @solon16 said:

    Let's try again............Is the process in Pitt different as to decision making? Is it Kevin Colbert making the decisions?
    Simple... Colbert doesn't want to leave. He works for one of the most stable fanchises in the NFL. He and the head coach have 50/50 say in personnel. The only two higher in the organization are Dan and Art jr.

    He was also born and raised in Pittsburgh. His brother coaches St. Vincent's football team where the Steelers training camp is held. He loves being a Steeler, like most.

    Tom Donahue would still be here if he could get along with Cowher.

  • @solon16 said:

    Let's try again............Is the process in Pitt different as to decision making? Is it Kevin Colbert making the decisions?
    Simple... Colbert doesn't want to leave. He works for one of the most stable fanchises in the NFL. He and the head coach have 50/50 say in personnel. The only two higher in the organization are Dan and Art jr.

    He was also born and raised in Pittsburgh. His brother coaches St. Vincent's football team where the Steelers training camp is held. He loves being a Steeler, like most.

    Tom Donahue would still be here if he could get along with Cowher.

    @steel2tuff said:

    Simple... Colbert doesn't want to leave. He works for one of the most stable fanchises in the NFL. He and the head coach have 50/50 say in personnel. The only two higher in the organization are Dan and Art jr.

    He was also born and raised in Pittsburgh. His brother coaches St. Vincent's football team where the Steelers training camp is held. He loves being a Steeler, like most.

    Tom Donahue would still be here if he could get along with Cowher.

    Well...I know you are a Pittsburgh fan but what the hell does that have to do with the two questions?

    He and the head coach have 50/50 say in personnel...that's all you got?

  • Where are all the other Pittsburgh Trolls?