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  • Browns149 Browns149B Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    He is a Hall of Fame QB

    but he now holds the record for the MOST playoff loses

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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      cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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      Right up there with Kurt Warner brett favre

      "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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        Right up there with Kurt Warner brett favre

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        Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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        @cdl15 said:

        Right up there with Kurt Warner brett favre

        Hall of Fame

        Not everyone can be Joe Montana

        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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          J jeffinwv wrote on last edited by
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          one outa three aint bad?

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            one outa three aint bad?

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            Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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            @jeffinwv said:

            one outa three aint bad?

            I'd take it all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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              J jeffinwv wrote on last edited by
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              I guess for the browns zero outa one is ok

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                J jeffinwv wrote on last edited by
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                I good D can put the vice right on Manning and he is harmless...wow..I never woulda dreamed this would happen

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                  Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                  When you run the same 3 plays on offense and you give the best defense 2 weeks to play against those 3 plays................It's not going to work

                  Denver NEVER threw deep, they ran that same crossing 2 yard routes all day. It was the Seahawks DREAM.

                  Anyone on this forum could see this , but Manning thought he could beat them with this flawed play call

                  I guess we are smarter then Manning

                  "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                    Denver threw shorter than any other NFL team.

                    Seattle knew it, prepared for it, and Denver threw right into their expectations.

                    Seattle, especially their coaching, is way better than Denver's.

                    I was hoping for a better game, but denver was entirely outmatched here.

                    Also, its Peyton. Not a stickler but everyone knows that.

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                      When you run the same 3 plays on offense and you give the best defense 2 weeks to play against those 3 plays................It's not going to work

                      Denver NEVER threw deep, they ran that same crossing 2 yard routes all day. It was the Seahawks DREAM.

                      Anyone on this forum could see this , but Manning thought he could beat them with this flawed play call

                      I guess we are smarter then Manning

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                      C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                      @browns149 said:

                      When you run the same 3 plays on offense and you give the best defense 2 weeks to play against those 3 plays................It's not going to work

                      Denver NEVER threw deep, they ran that same crossing 2 yard routes all day. It was the Seahawks DREAM.

                      Anyone on this forum could see this , but Manning thought he could beat them with this flawed play call

                      I guess we are smarter then Manning

                      3 deep safeties doesn't exactly invite throwing deep, especially with 2 probowl safeties. The defense dictated where the ball went

                      1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                        @browns149 said:

                        When you run the same 3 plays on offense and you give the best defense 2 weeks to play against those 3 plays................It's not going to work

                        Denver NEVER threw deep, they ran that same crossing 2 yard routes all day. It was the Seahawks DREAM.

                        Anyone on this forum could see this , but Manning thought he could beat them with this flawed play call

                        I guess we are smarter then Manning

                        3 deep safeties doesn't exactly invite throwing deep, especially with 2 probowl safeties. The defense dictated where the ball went

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                        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                        @clevelandmilidh said:

                        3 deep safeties doesn't exactly invite throwing deep, especially with 2 probowl safeties. The defense dictated where the ball went

                        Yea except peyton manning has thrown shorter than every other QB this entire year. Denver is #1 in YAC. It wasn't just this game with 2 pro bowl safeties.

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                          C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                          So you think they should've stopped doing what got them to the superbowl against a D were short passes are your best chance. Makes since

                          It's not like he didn't try going deep at all, they just weren't completed

                          Thats interesting that Manning has thrown more short passes than any other QB though...isn't that the big knock on the Carr kid?

                          1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            Peyton wasnt the cause for most of that.

                            He isnt on kick coverage

                            He cant play O Line too so he doesnt get hit while throwing

                            He cant snap it to himself so the center doesnt mess up

                            He cant make Thomas hold on to the damn ball

                            He was not completely on, no. But it wasnt near as much his fault as people are making it seem.

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                              So you think they should've stopped doing what got them to the superbowl against a D were short passes are your best chance. Makes since

                              It's not like he didn't try going deep at all, they just weren't completed

                              Thats interesting that Manning has thrown more short passes than any other QB though...isn't that the big knock on the Carr kid?

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                              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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                              @clevelandmilidh said:

                              So you think they should've stopped doing what got them to the superbowl against a D were short passes are your best chance. Makes since

                              It's not like he didn't try going deep at all, they just weren't completed

                              Thats interesting that Manning has thrown more short passes than any other QB though...isn't that the big knock on the Carr kid?

                              I'm not saying it's a bad thing, and Denver's receivers are super talented which helps on the short passes. But they kept doing the same game plan well after seattle shut it down.

                              Seattle's defense is also super talented.

                              Peyton had less time than usual, IMO that's the only way to beat peyton.

                              Peyton didn't play a good game though, its not his fault entirely obviously, but he didn't play good. There's no refuting he isn't great by anybody. Today he was bad.

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                                miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                like i always say

                                DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.

                                passing league and fagboy QB talk ain't got nothing on a 6' 3" 250 pound safety that will crack you in half when you come across the middle or a pass rush that has you look like the lead penguin in 'happy feet'.

                                now od you little fags realize why i like clowney @4?

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                                  like i always say

                                  DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.

                                  passing league and fagboy QB talk ain't got nothing on a 6' 3" 250 pound safety that will crack you in half when you come across the middle or a pass rush that has you look like the lead penguin in 'happy feet'.

                                  now od you little fags realize why i like clowney @4?

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                                  Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                                  @miktoxic said:

                                  like i always say

                                  DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.

                                  passing league and fagboy QB talk ain't got nothing on a 6' 3" 250 pound safety that will crack you in half when you come across the middle or a pass rush that has you look like the lead penguin in 'happy feet'.

                                  now od you little fags realize why i like clowney @4?

                                  I'd be perfectly fine with us building a truly stout defense and worrying about the offense later.

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                                    @miktoxic said:

                                    like i always say

                                    DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.

                                    passing league and fagboy QB talk ain't got nothing on a 6' 3" 250 pound safety that will crack you in half when you come across the middle or a pass rush that has you look like the lead penguin in 'happy feet'.

                                    now od you little fags realize why i like clowney @4?

                                    I'd be perfectly fine with us building a truly stout defense and worrying about the offense later.

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                                    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                    @mark-o said:

                                    I'd be perfectly fine with us building a truly stout defense and worrying about the offense later.

                                    we have enough picks if used wisely to do a little on both sides. but why not finish one side of the ball with your prime picks? the defense is much closer to being finished with a couple of high draft picks and a FA signing here or there.

                                    guess banner was kicking himself in the ass when we didn't acquire avril from detroit after seeing his performance tonite.

                                    instead we got kreuger. weep wop.

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                                      @mark-o said:

                                      I'd be perfectly fine with us building a truly stout defense and worrying about the offense later.

                                      we have enough picks if used wisely to do a little on both sides. but why not finish one side of the ball with your prime picks? the defense is much closer to being finished with a couple of high draft picks and a FA signing here or there.

                                      guess banner was kicking himself in the ass when we didn't acquire avril from detroit after seeing his performance tonite.

                                      instead we got kreuger. weep wop.

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                                      Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                                      @miktoxic said:

                                      we have enough picks if used wisely to do a little on both sides. but why not finish one side of the ball with your prime picks? the defense is much closer to being finished with a couple of high draft picks and a FA signing here or there.

                                      guess banner was kicking himself in the ass when we didn't acquire avril from detroit after seeing his performance tonite.

                                      instead we got kreuger. weep wop.

                                      We have enough picks and cap space to improve on both sides. But you're right in that the defense is closer to being a top of the league unit then the offense. I'd stick with Hoyer, pick another QB in the mid rounds (Boyd if he's truly going to fall), and play kick ass defense and see what happens.

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                                        like i always say

                                        DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.

                                        passing league and fagboy QB talk ain't got nothing on a 6' 3" 250 pound safety that will crack you in half when you come across the middle or a pass rush that has you look like the lead penguin in 'happy feet'.

                                        now od you little fags realize why i like clowney @4?

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                                        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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                                        @miktoxic said:

                                        like i always say

                                        DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.

                                        passing league and fagboy QB talk ain't got nothing on a 6' 3" 250 pound safety that will crack you in half when you come across the middle or a pass rush that has you look like the lead penguin in 'happy feet'.

                                        now od you little fags realize why i like clowney @4?

                                        I don't think clowney will fall to 4. I'm also big on dennard who I don't think will fall to #26 either.

                                        I think the main reason more people haven't mentioned clowney is one of the 3 teams above us will take him.

                                        But I'm not a pro scout like Mike H, so my opinion in February is irrelevant.

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                                          This has to hurt him...bad

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                                          ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                          @jeffinwv said:

                                          This has to hurt him...bad

                                          No it doesn't. He is the best qb of this generation. He is a 1st ballot HOF'er

                                          If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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