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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    "Mobile" doesn't mean "read option".

    I don't understand what's hard about that concept.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    "Mobile" doesn't mean "read option".

    I don't understand what's hard about that concept.

    Third round, as opposed to top 5 or bust- I don't understand that concept either.

  • The Seahawks are bursting with talent. LT,LG are both first rounders, C 2nd, wr 1st and 2nd, two lb's 1st and 2nd,

    and otherwise, they found gems later in the draft. Kam Chancellor is one, as well as Sherman.

    I heard some analyst say the Seahawks are known to draft guys who are hungry, and love the game.

    I think Peyton will retire, his arm looks like he should.

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    "Mobile" doesn't mean "read option".

    I don't understand what's hard about that concept.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    "Mobile" doesn't mean "read option".

    I don't understand what's hard about that concept.

    Maybe he meant he's black so he has to be mobile.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @bbedward said:

    Yes. Wilson helped, but he was far from the sole reason they won. That defense was something the broncos haven't seen all year.

    Defensive teams win. Look at Baltimore too.

    yes DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!!

    (i've only posted that statement 4 times already on this board after seattle's win.........)

    @miktoxic said:

    yes DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!!

    (i've only posted that statement 4 times already on this board after seattle's win.........)

    I was just getting ready to post that too Tox.

    Ain't it the truth?

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  • jcam222J jcam222

    @soju said:

    granted it's only half time but I dont see Denver coming back barring a miracle.

    What does this game reveal? It shows that mobile QBs are officially in and stand in the pocket qbs are now 2nd rate, not as attractive, behind in the times, obsolete.

    Browns will now take manzeil or another mobile qb, gaurantee it.

    Even though Seattle's defense has everything to do with the lead, the QB will take the glory.

    LOL this game makes no statement either way on mobile vs pocket QB's. This makes one hell of a case to build a dominant defense.

    @jcam222 said:

    LOL this game makes no statement either way on mobile vs pocket QB's. This makes one hell of a case to build a dominant defense.

    Yup... Using this SB I can make the same case for a game manager at QB.

    @miktoxic said:

    if you want to copy on how to win in the nfl then copy the seahawks.

    With very few exceptions what the Seahawks are, has been the winning recipe since forever...

    @calfoxwc said:

    I heard some analyst say the Seahawks are known to draft guys who are hungry, and love the game.

    I think Peyton will retire, his arm looks like he should.

    Employees who LOVE whatever they do for a living helps any business succeed.

    Speaking of which... despite Peyton setting a SB record for completions (yup, he did), I do not see him "going out" on this game. He loves it too much.

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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    "Mobile" doesn't mean "read option".

    I don't understand what's hard about that concept.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    "Mobile" doesn't mean "read option".

    I don't understand what's hard about that concept.

    Yea, but I'd venture to say Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady were/are just as mobile as Wilson.

    Most every good qb can escape pressure in the pocket. That's pretty much all the mobility I saw from Wilson.

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  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    "Mobile" doesn't mean "read option".

    I don't understand what's hard about that concept.

    Yea, but I'd venture to say Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady were/are just as mobile as Wilson.

    Most every good qb can escape pressure in the pocket. That's pretty much all the mobility I saw from Wilson.

    @bbedward said:

    Yea, but I'd venture to say Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady were/are just as mobile as Wilson.

    Most every good qb can escape pressure in the pocket. That's pretty much all the mobility I saw from Wilson.

    soooo that was the first time you'd seen him?
  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    @bbedward said:

    Yea, but I'd venture to say Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady were/are just as mobile as Wilson.

    Most every good qb can escape pressure in the pocket. That's pretty much all the mobility I saw from Wilson.

    soooo that was the first time you'd seen him?

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    soooo that was the first time you'd seen him?

    No, but I had a few beers during the SB soo. Just saying, during the super bowl he didn't win by using his mobile qualities too much.

    I just don't like the thread title, tbh. There's no new era and seattle would have won with Brady Quinn under center.

  • Employees who LOVE whatever they do for a living helps any business succeed.



    Speaking of which... despite Peyton setting a SB record for completions (yup, he did), I do not see him "going out" on this game. He loves it too much.Tour


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    Yeah, he sure did complete em...he's a brilliant qb. And he loves it. Amazing - and maybe he might


    stay one more year. Or maybe he was playing hurt or something. But he does need some offensive linemen,


    and more than Welker to beat the likes of Seattle, a team with no weaknesses at all. It would be ironic


    to have him eventually retire, and take a qb coaching/fo job with Elway and the Broncos, eh?



    But despite Peyton being arguably the best qb ever? His yards per pass was 5.7. That's kinda


    telling, I think. And Denver only managed 1.9 yards per rush. Your right though, Peyton will


    probably come back again - but they need to beef up their secondary, and offensive line.

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  • Orignal Poster is a dumbshit. The style of the quarterbacks had nothing to do with the out come, denver won 15 games with a pocket passer they just ran into a badass defense.

    Remmber the last time a #1 offense met a #1 defense? Tampa bay routed Oakland in the same kind of game.

    Theres nothing you can do about a defense that good. They were looser, they wanted it more, they were better.

    I want Johnny Manziel, not because he's mobile and that is some gay wave of the futere, beut because he's a winner.

    bout time we had one of those.

    HB

    Zombo
    cdl15C 1 Reply

  • Trouble is, Colt McCoy was a winner. It's just a big step up to the NFL.

    The Browns need more players like Seattle drafts. It seems that the Browns

    haven't gotten the draft philosophy figured out well over many years.

    There aren't that many "can't miss" players that the Browns can count on.

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    "Mobile" doesn't mean "read option".

    I don't understand what's hard about that concept.

    Yea, but I'd venture to say Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady were/are just as mobile as Wilson.

    Most every good qb can escape pressure in the pocket. That's pretty much all the mobility I saw from Wilson.

    @bbedward said:

    Yea, but I'd venture to say Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady were/are just as mobile as Wilson.

    Most every good qb can escape pressure in the pocket. That's pretty much all the mobility I saw from Wilson.

    I wouldn't include Tom Brady. He has tremendous pocket awareness, but that's where his elusiveness stops. Rodgers, however, is an apt comparison.

    All you need is a quarterback who's mobile enough to extend plays, a la Roethlisberger and Wilson.

    I believe Bortles is more than mobile enough to elude rushers, as is Manziel.

    We don't need a read option. I don't think anyone is asking for that.

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  • C calfoxwc

    Employees who LOVE whatever they do for a living helps any business succeed.



    Speaking of which... despite Peyton setting a SB record for completions (yup, he did), I do not see him "going out" on this game. He loves it too much.Tour


    *********************************


    Yeah, he sure did complete em...he's a brilliant qb. And he loves it. Amazing - and maybe he might


    stay one more year. Or maybe he was playing hurt or something. But he does need some offensive linemen,


    and more than Welker to beat the likes of Seattle, a team with no weaknesses at all. It would be ironic


    to have him eventually retire, and take a qb coaching/fo job with Elway and the Broncos, eh?



    But despite Peyton being arguably the best qb ever? His yards per pass was 5.7. That's kinda


    telling, I think. And Denver only managed 1.9 yards per rush. Your right though, Peyton will


    probably come back again - but they need to beef up their secondary, and offensive line.

    @calfoxwc said:

    But despite Peyton being arguably the best qb ever? His yards per pass was 5.7. That's kinda

    telling, I think. And Denver only managed 1.9 yards per rush. Your right though, Peyton will

    probably come back again - but they need to beef up their secondary, and offensive line.

    Best ever???? That was ARGUEABLE last week. Now it's official. NO FUCKING WAY. Like I have said before he gets thrown in with Brett Favre and Kurt Warner category. Chasing Brady, Montana, and Bradshaw. This we know is true.

    Games 1-16 Best Ever. No arguments from me. But best ever is out of question for sure.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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  • Z Zombo Dawg

    Orignal Poster is a dumbshit. The style of the quarterbacks had nothing to do with the out come, denver won 15 games with a pocket passer they just ran into a badass defense.

    Remmber the last time a #1 offense met a #1 defense? Tampa bay routed Oakland in the same kind of game.

    Theres nothing you can do about a defense that good. They were looser, they wanted it more, they were better.

    I want Johnny Manziel, not because he's mobile and that is some gay wave of the futere, beut because he's a winner.

    bout time we had one of those.

    HB

    @horse-balls said:

    Orignal Poster is a dumbshit. The style of the quarterbacks had nothing to do with the out come, denver won 15 games with a pocket passer they just ran into a badass defense.

    Remmber the last time a #1 offense met a #1 defense? Tampa bay routed Oakland in the same kind of game.

    Theres nothing you can do about a defense that good. They were looser, they wanted it more, they were better.

    I want Johnny Manziel, not because he's mobile and that is some gay wave of the futere, beut because he's a winner.

    bout time we had one of those.

    HB

    McCarran is a winner.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • cdl15C cdl15

    @horse-balls said:

    Orignal Poster is a dumbshit. The style of the quarterbacks had nothing to do with the out come, denver won 15 games with a pocket passer they just ran into a badass defense.

    Remmber the last time a #1 offense met a #1 defense? Tampa bay routed Oakland in the same kind of game.

    Theres nothing you can do about a defense that good. They were looser, they wanted it more, they were better.

    I want Johnny Manziel, not because he's mobile and that is some gay wave of the futere, beut because he's a winner.

    bout time we had one of those.

    HB

    McCarran is a winner.

    @cdl15 said:

    McCarran is a winner.

    So was Colt McCoy

    #Justsayin'

  • So was Tim Tebow.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride

  • So was Ryan leaf.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • And Andre Ware

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • and on and and on................................................... Truth is if any of us were half as good at identifying which QB prospect is going to be a stud in the NFL we would be making a fat paycheck working for a team in the NFL.

  • jcam222J jcam222

    and on and and on................................................... Truth is if any of us were half as good at identifying which QB prospect is going to be a stud in the NFL we would be making a fat paycheck working for a team in the NFL.

    @jcam222 said:

    and on and and on................................................... Truth is if any of us were half as good at identifying which QB prospect is going to be a stud in the NFL we would be making a fat paycheck working for a team in the NFL.

    what's the Browns gm excuse
    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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