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"Can't Miss" Players in 2014 NFL Draft

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  • I see you have no QBs on your list. Explain please.

    W bbedwardB Tour2maT 3 Replies

  • Im sure Lametardi is going to draft guys no one ever heard of..He always does...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    I see you have no QBs on your list. Explain please.

    @the-gipper said:

    I see you have no QBs on your list. Explain please.

    He specified what he thought are can't miss prospects. What to explain?

    WSS

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    I see you have no QBs on your list. Explain please.

    @the-gipper said:

    I see you have no QBs on your list. Explain please.

    QBs are just a lot harder to label as "can't miss". You see a lot of people questioning aspects of Manziel, Bridgewater, Bortles, etc. But you don't really see people criticizing watkins' hands, awareness, speed, etc.

    Everyone can miss though. QBs more likely than others.

  • No such thing as a "can't miss" player in the draft. Put their names on a routlette wheel, and I wouldn't even make a bet...

    #Justsayin'
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  • W Westside Steve

    @the-gipper said:

    I see you have no QBs on your list. Explain please.

    He specified what he thought are can't miss prospects. What to explain?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    He specified what he thought are can't miss prospects. What to explain?

    WSS

    I just thought I might like his opinion on why any of the top QB prospects do not fall into the "can't miss" category. I don't disagree with him, I just thought I might like to know his reasoning.

  • Luck was considered one of the biggest can't miss players in years. For all positions.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    I see you have no QBs on your list. Explain please.

    @the-gipper said:

    I see you have no QBs on your list. Explain please.

    I also have no RBs, FBs, DTs, ILBs, CBs, FSs, SSs, Ps, or Ks. Does not mean there aren't any... just that I have not tabbed any.... yet.

    @westside-steve said:

    He specified what he thought are can't miss prospects. What to explain?

    Bingo...

    @bbedward said:

    QBs are just a lot harder to label as "can't miss". You see a lot of people questioning aspects of Manziel, Bridgewater, Bortles, etc. But you don't really see people criticizing watkins' hands, awareness, speed, etc.

    Exactly... It's all probablility based. The greater the skill set required, the higher the bar to "can't miss". And, to borrow a phrase from The Right Stuff. QBs are "at the top of the pyramid."

    @thenew23 said:

    No such thing as a "can't miss" player in the draft. Put their names on a routlette wheel, and I wouldn't even make a bet...

    Here are a few I have tabbed: Joe Thomas... Patrick Peterson... Ndamukong Suh... Calvin Johnson... Andrew Luck... Orlando Pace...

    There are players in nearly every draft who are so ready to excel in the NFL that the only things that can keep them from stardom are injury (Greg Cook)... and sometimes not even that (Adrian Peterson)... or self-destruction (Von Miller... so far...).

    Are there ever consensus "can't miss" players that miss? Sure, but that's on the evaluators... not the players. Have I ever mislabelled a player as "can't miss"? Yup... while I was not for taking him as high as we did, I thought TR was going to be a stud, but I had Doug Martin as a better value.

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  • cdl15C cdl15

    Luck was considered one of the biggest can't miss players in years. For all positions.

    @cdl15 said:

    Luck was considered one of the biggest can't miss players in years. For all positions.

    Yea Luck's don't come around often though.

    You could go back a lot of drafts and most of the top QBs wouldn't go in the 1st if we knew then what we did then.

    But when there is a "can't miss" guy they could fail miserably (Ryan Leaf). And of course guys with question marks could be incredible.

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @cdl15 said:

    Luck was considered one of the biggest can't miss players in years. For all positions.

    Yea Luck's don't come around often though.

    You could go back a lot of drafts and most of the top QBs wouldn't go in the 1st if we knew then what we did then.

    But when there is a "can't miss" guy they could fail miserably (Ryan Leaf). And of course guys with question marks could be incredible.

    @bbedward said:

    Yea Luck's don't come around often though.

    True... Luck, P. Manning, Elway... maybe one per decade.

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  • Joe Thomas was a can't miss guy

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
    thenew23T 1 Reply

  • Gipper there are also no safeties guards inside linebackers kickers or punters in his top 6.

    And we understand that can't miss players sometimes, well, miss.

    But it's probably fair to say that a guy should be a once every few years calibre player to be considered a can't miss prospect. Disagree?

    WSS

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  • cdl15C cdl15

    Joe Thomas was a can't miss guy

    @cdl15 said:

    Joe Thomas was a can't miss guy

    You don't have to list all the "can't miss" guys who turned out good, because I don't want to list all the "can't miss" guys who turned out to bust... thanks

    I'll play along though:

    If there were any "can't miss" players in this draft, here's who I think:

    Anthony Barr - OLB - UCLA - at 6'4" 250 with great speed, he's a can't miss OLB for a 3-4 team b/c he doesn't have to convert - he played 3-4 OLB in college.

    Jadaveon Clowney - DE - So.Car - he is ONLY a "can't miss" if he plays 4-3 DE. I would never call a pass rusher who has to convert to OLB as "can't miss"

    Jake Matthews - OT - TA&M - it's easy to predict OTs will be "can't miss," but different blocking schemes and QB styles can affect guys at the next level

    C.J. Mosley - LB - Alabama - I call him "can't miss" because he is very versatile. Can fit inside in a 3-4 or outside in a 4-3, either way he's always around the ball

    Kony Ealy - DE - Missouri - another "can't miss" ONLY if he plays 4-3 DE. "Might" fit a 3-4 DE, but again, you never know when systems change

    Question marks surrounding all the other players projected in the first round IMHO. There are other players that I think will be good, but I couldn't call them "can't miss." I would never put that label on a QB, RB, WR, or CB because it is so difficult to grade those positions b/c of the widespread level of competetion they are against in college... just my thoughts...

    #Justsayin'

  • Of course it is his opinions.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • clowneys not a cant miss it all depends on his desire to play he seems to take games off

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @bbedward said:

    Yea Luck's don't come around often though.

    True... Luck, P. Manning, Elway... maybe one per decade.

    @tour2ma said:

    True... Luck, P. Manning, Elway... maybe one per decade.

    And the Colts drafted all of them.

  • W Westside Steve

    Gipper there are also no safeties guards inside linebackers kickers or punters in his top 6.

    And we understand that can't miss players sometimes, well, miss.

    But it's probably fair to say that a guy should be a once every few years calibre player to be considered a can't miss prospect. Disagree?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Gipper there are also no safeties guards inside linebackers kickers or punters in his top 6.

    And we understand that can't miss players sometimes, well, miss.

    But it's probably fair to say that a guy should be a once every few years calibre player to be considered a can't miss prospect. Disagree?

    WSS

    OK, but no position gets the attention that a QB gets.....look at this forum....90% of it is dedicated to yammering on and on about the QB position.

    If Tour says "no QB in my opinion rates a can't miss" I would not argue...probably agree. But when you state that opinion on such a hot button topic people want to also know Why?

    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • Clowney is from S.Car. Not Clempsun. Please fix that egregious mistake before he realizes it and eats the entire message board.

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  • I think he probably would have mentioned one if any of these four guys were being called the best to come out in years like some of the other positions. It's actually too bad there isn't a can't miss quarterback or two. Then we might have one instead of just paying for one.

    WSS

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  • are we staying with the 3-4 or switching back to a 4-3.

    IMO the 4-3 was better suited to this team. sheard could get loose and who knows what kreuger would have ended up doing.

    since they haven't named a DC yet i guess it's all up in the air.

    if they were to switch to a 4-3 clowney would be 'can't miss'.

    there are no probs with his motor or taking games off. you've got to understand everyone was telling him to take the year off last year. he had just seen his team mate in lattimore lose his career the year before due to injury.....what would you have done?

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