Lombardi out?
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I speculated a while ago that once the head coaching search was over, Haslam might consider firing Lombardi and possibly Banner. I can live with Banner sticking around, but I'd LOVE to see Farmer promoted to GM and Lombardi "promoted".
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I speculated a while ago that once the head coaching search was over, Haslam might consider firing Lombardi and possibly Banner. I can live with Banner sticking around, but I'd LOVE to see Farmer promoted to GM and Lombardi "promoted".
I speculated a while ago that once the head coaching search was over, Haslam might consider firing Lombardi and possibly Banner. I can live with Banner sticking around, but I'd LOVE to see Farmer promoted to GM and Lombardi "promoted".
pleez no one wake me up from this dream.
i wonder how much the browns would owe another 'personnel/coach person' for being OTJ for what a year now?
take the money and run. haslam should have a placard made of that and hung above his office doorway.
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I think he may have been primarily scouting free agents. Either way the scouting he has written up is property of the Browns. He could be fired tomorrow and we would retain that I would think. The more likely scenario is that he is "promoted" before the draft to some lofty bullshit title and keep around for awhile. I would project then a full exit before camp opens. this would make my day
I am still imagining the conversation between Haslam and Lombarid " Mike you son of a bitch you couldn't get along with Chud, you talked me into firing him and assured me your guy was lined up and you were full of shit'. You made us a laughing stock!!!!!" "By the way your draft last year sucked too" We gotta "promote" you.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Browns/comments/1wzf7v/ive_been_hearing_rumors_that_mike_lombardi_may_be/
This thread on reddit reports the same rumors. The poster apparently had insider speculation, so let's hope this is true.
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I don't hope anybody loses a job. I think Lombardi has value.
That said, I think Farmer is better, and him staying tells me he has been told some things quietly.
My feeling is Lombo is going to be re-assigned as Haslams front man....whatever you want to call that....again, I think he has value.....maybe over special projects.....but Farmer is going to rise to GM. Lombo is going to scout FA players....I think he is good at that. He brought in some good players this last year even if we didn't play them.
I don't think Lombardi's voice is going to be eliminated because it shouldn't, but right now the PR people have a louder voice than usual.
Farmer will end up GM and Lombo will end up Sr. advisor to the owner.
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I don't hope anybody loses a job. I think Lombardi has value.
That said, I think Farmer is better, and him staying tells me he has been told some things quietly.
My feeling is Lombo is going to be re-assigned as Haslams front man....whatever you want to call that....again, I think he has value.....maybe over special projects.....but Farmer is going to rise to GM. Lombo is going to scout FA players....I think he is good at that. He brought in some good players this last year even if we didn't play them.
I don't think Lombardi's voice is going to be eliminated because it shouldn't, but right now the PR people have a louder voice than usual.
Farmer will end up GM and Lombo will end up Sr. advisor to the owner.
I don't hope anybody loses a job. I think Lombardi has value.
That said, I think Farmer is better, and him staying tells me he has been told some things quietly.
I speculated the same, but I read an article where Farmer is quoted as saying he had NOT been told anything of the sort and that he has a very good relationship with Lombardi. He also said if he had been told that he would've been concerned and he doesn't want a promotion at someone else's expense.
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Was not to happy with the hire to begin with as much rocky road in this guys past. And very little positives. I don't think he has much value left at this point and better hope he still with the stoogess going forward because I find it hard to beliebe people want this guy around a respectable organization.
The sad truth about Lombardi is he was here a tick longer than chud. From a very formidable and credible fan his lists of bad decisions and fuckups heavily outweighed chud's, yet chud was the one to get the shaft.
Very shotty Free Agency with the bess saga, bryants health, and over spending for Krueger while very little attempt at Avril was at least reported.
His first Draft was not what he and the other stooges had promised. Honestly Mingo coulda been picked by a Retarded monkey and might have been.
Where there is smoke there usually is fire. And with this guys glamorous resume things probably are how they look. If he wants a qb at 4 I'd immediately escort him off the property. The way he's been blowin Hoyer dick since his days coming outta college and the process it took to get him to Cleveland, to gettin him to start for this franchise. To suddenly covet another qb at this point is not ideal.
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Was not to happy with the hire to begin with as much rocky road in this guys past. And very little positives. I don't think he has much value left at this point and better hope he still with the stoogess going forward because I find it hard to beliebe people want this guy around a respectable organization.
The sad truth about Lombardi is he was here a tick longer than chud. From a very formidable and credible fan his lists of bad decisions and fuckups heavily outweighed chud's, yet chud was the one to get the shaft.
Very shotty Free Agency with the bess saga, bryants health, and over spending for Krueger while very little attempt at Avril was at least reported.
His first Draft was not what he and the other stooges had promised. Honestly Mingo coulda been picked by a Retarded monkey and might have been.
Where there is smoke there usually is fire. And with this guys glamorous resume things probably are how they look. If he wants a qb at 4 I'd immediately escort him off the property. The way he's been blowin Hoyer dick since his days coming outta college and the process it took to get him to Cleveland, to gettin him to start for this franchise. To suddenly covet another qb at this point is not ideal.
Was not to happy with the hire to begin with as much rocky road in this guys past. And very little positives. I don't think he has much value left at this point and better hope he still with the stoogess going forward because I find it hard to beliebe people want this guy around a respectable organization.
The sad truth about Lombardi is he was here a tick longer than chud. From a very formidable and credible fan his lists of bad decisions and fuckups heavily outweighed chud's, yet chud was the one to get the shaft.
Very shotty Free Agency with the bess saga, bryants health, and over spending for Krueger while very little attempt at Avril was at least reported.
His first Draft was not what he and the other stooges had promised. Honestly Mingo coulda been picked by a Retarded monkey and might have been.Where there is smoke there usually is fire. And with this guys glamorous resume things probably are how they look. If he wants a qb at 4 I'd immediately escort him off the property. The way he's been blowin Hoyer dick since his days coming outta college and the process it took to get him to Cleveland, to gettin him to start for this franchise. To suddenly covet another qb at this point is not ideal.
All valid points and. Let's not forget he's a negative distraction to the team in lieu of current events that has transpired since he was brought on board. He's mysteriously absent from any pressers or team scouting excursions wich should and could raise concerns. The Media does not like him. The Fans detest him. His track record is shoddy at best. Hes a terrible evaluator of talent. And weather or not you like or dont like Chud. He did the Browns coaching staff a disservice,constantly playing with the roster during the season , wich maade things difficult as if they werent enough already..
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I don't hope anybody loses a job. I think Lombardi has value.
That said, I think Farmer is better, and him staying tells me he has been told some things quietly.
My feeling is Lombo is going to be re-assigned as Haslams front man....whatever you want to call that....again, I think he has value.....maybe over special projects.....but Farmer is going to rise to GM. Lombo is going to scout FA players....I think he is good at that. He brought in some good players this last year even if we didn't play them.
I don't think Lombardi's voice is going to be eliminated because it shouldn't, but right now the PR people have a louder voice than usual.
Farmer will end up GM and Lombo will end up Sr. advisor to the owner.
I don't hope anybody loses a job. I think Lombardi has value.
Yup, I had smoke coming out of my ears when they fired Chud- OTOH, I'll gladly help pay for Lombardi's ticket out of town.
That said, I think Farmer is better, and him staying tells me he has been told some things quietly.
Farmer's big toe contains more football knowledge than Lombardi's entire body.
My feeling is Lombo is going to be re-assigned as Haslams front man....whatever you want to call that....again, I think he has value.....maybe over special projects.....but Farmer is going to rise to GM. Lombo is going to scout FA players....I think he is good at that. He brought in some good players this last year even if we didn't play them.
I don't think Lombardi's voice is going to be eliminated because it shouldn't, but right now the PR people have a louder voice than usual.
Farmer will end up GM and Lombo will end up Sr. advisor to the owner.
I hope if he stays his duties will be limited to soliciting signage for the stadium.
All valid points and. Let's not forget he's a negative distraction to the team in lieu of current events that has transpired since he was brought on board. He's mysteriously absent from any pressers or team scouting excursions wich should and could raise concerns. The Media does not like him. The Fans detest him. His track record is shoddy at best. Hes a terrible evaluator of talent. And weather or not you like or dont like Chud. He did the Browns coaching staff a disservice,constantly playing with the roster during the season , which made things difficult as if they weren't enough already..
The only reason they would keep Major Stooge #2 around is Major Stooge #1 (Banner) essentially said "well, I know you guys are going to hate him, but I'm hiring him anyway." So if it's all about performance instead of continuity- bye bye Mike. And good riddance. Only in the Bizarro World that is Cleveland football would you promote a guy for doing a crappy job. FWIW, Lobotomy probably does very little of the actual scouting- it's the grunts on the ground that have already done that. Now comes the critical part, the private workouts and interviews- and stay away from those Lobotomy- far, far away.
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I don't hope anybody loses a job. I think Lombardi has value.
That said, I think Farmer is better, and him staying tells me he has been told some things quietly.
My feeling is Lombo is going to be re-assigned as Haslams front man....whatever you want to call that....again, I think he has value.....maybe over special projects.....but Farmer is going to rise to GM. Lombo is going to scout FA players....I think he is good at that. He brought in some good players this last year even if we didn't play them.
I don't think Lombardi's voice is going to be eliminated because it shouldn't, but right now the PR people have a louder voice than usual.
Farmer will end up GM and Lombo will end up Sr. advisor to the owner.
I don't hope anybody loses a job. I think Lombardi has value.
That said, I think Farmer is better, and him staying tells me he has been told some things quietly.
My feeling is Lombo is going to be re-assigned as Haslams front man....whatever you want to call that....again, I think he has value.....maybe over special projects.....but Farmer is going to rise to GM. Lombo is going to scout FA players....I think he is good at that. He brought in some good players this last year even if we didn't play them.
I don't think Lombardi's voice is going to be eliminated because it shouldn't, but right now the PR people have a louder voice than usual.
Farmer will end up GM and Lombo will end up Sr. advisor to the owner.
Outside of Hoyer..please tell Me what good players he brought in...Kruger? stinkola. Groves? stinkola Bess? he was cut..c'mon...quit defending this POS Peen..I know your not that dumb old man.
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I don't think Kruger sucks, so we just disagree there. Bess, we got hoodwinked by Miami. They clearly weren't dealing in good faith on that deal. I also think Lombardi did a good job of bringing in talent once we traded Richardson. Baker shows more than promise and Rainey was a great pick-up. Too bad Chud didn't play him the way the Bucs did after we let him go to make room for someone else....probably Baker.
I don't like the guy but some posters around her can't think clearly when discussing Lombardi.
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I don't hope anybody loses a job. I think Lombardi has value.
That said, I think Farmer is better, and him staying tells me he has been told some things quietly.
My feeling is Lombo is going to be re-assigned as Haslams front man....whatever you want to call that....again, I think he has value.....maybe over special projects.....but Farmer is going to rise to GM. Lombo is going to scout FA players....I think he is good at that. He brought in some good players this last year even if we didn't play them.
I don't think Lombardi's voice is going to be eliminated because it shouldn't, but right now the PR people have a louder voice than usual.
Farmer will end up GM and Lombo will end up Sr. advisor to the owner.
Outside of Hoyer..please tell Me what good players he brought in...Kruger? stinkola. Groves? stinkola Bess? he was cut..c'mon...quit defending this POS Peen..I know your not that dumb old man.
Outside of Hoyer..please tell Me what good players he brought in...Kruger? stinkola. Groves? stinkola Bess? he was cut..c'mon...quit defending this POS Peen..I know your not that dumb old man.
It's one thing to be wrong about the potential of a player; it's another thing to be miss a player's "issues".
Bess just may have been the straw that broke this particular camel's back. Failure to do due diligence on him was the costly kind of failure that a business man could not tolerate.
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I think that's a fair statement Peen.
I don't know exactly what would make someone think that Ray Farmer is a genius and Mike Lombardi is an idiot. Seems to me a lot of the anti Lombardi sentiment goes back to some Browns fans having a grudge against Bill Belichick.
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Ray Farmer's reputation comes from the time he spent at KC, helping to rebuild that roster with scott pioli. How much of it he was responsible for we obviously don't know, but it's still more than mike lombardi has done in the last 5 years.
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I don't hope anybody loses a job. I think Lombardi has value.
That said, I think Farmer is better, and him staying tells me he has been told some things quietly.
My feeling is Lombo is going to be re-assigned as Haslams front man....whatever you want to call that....again, I think he has value.....maybe over special projects.....but Farmer is going to rise to GM. Lombo is going to scout FA players....I think he is good at that. He brought in some good players this last year even if we didn't play them.
I don't think Lombardi's voice is going to be eliminated because it shouldn't, but right now the PR people have a louder voice than usual.
Farmer will end up GM and Lombo will end up Sr. advisor to the owner.
I don't hope anybody loses a job. I think Lombardi has value.
That said, I think Farmer is better, and him staying tells me he has been told some things quietly.
My feeling is Lombo is going to be re-assigned as Haslams front man....whatever you want to call that....again, I think he has value.....maybe over special projects.....but Farmer is going to rise to GM. Lombo is going to scout FA players....I think he is good at that. He brought in some good players this last year even if we didn't play them.
I don't think Lombardi's voice is going to be eliminated because it shouldn't, but right now the PR people have a louder voice than usual.
Farmer will end up GM and Lombo will end up Sr. advisor to the owner.
Yes, let him be a "consultant" . He can e-mail his opinions about players in from wherever he parks his carcass.
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I think that's a fair statement Peen.
I don't know exactly what would make someone think that Ray Farmer is a genius and Mike Lombardi is an idiot. Seems to me a lot of the anti Lombardi sentiment goes back to some Browns fans having a grudge against Bill Belichick.
WSS
I think that's a fair statement Peen.
I don't know exactly what would make someone think that Ray Farmer is a genius and Mike Lombardi is an idiot. Seems to me a lot of the anti Lombardi sentiment goes back to some Browns fans having a grudge against Bill Belichick.
WSS
It goes back to him having a very poor record for evaluating talent....be it under Belichick, with other teams, and here with this gig.
And the fact that he is aloof and never seen makes people think that he believes he is above being questioned.
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