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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    The other major factor was the Browns QB situation.

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      D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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      Lots of talent on the team combined with only 4 wins and a record setting 7 losses in a row = New head coach

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        I feek like most of Schwartz's struggles came from having to compensate for the guards beside him. Once Cousins was replaced Schwartz looked a lot better.

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        • gftChrisG gftChris

          http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/2952/all-afc-north-cleveland-browns

          All-AFC North Offense
          WR A.J. Green Cincinnati Bengals
          WR Josh Gordon Cleveland Browns
          WR Antonio Brown Pittsburgh Steelers
          LT Joe Thomas Cleveland Browns
          LG Andrew Whitworth Cincinnati Bengals
          C Alex Mack Cleveland Browns
          RG David DeCastro Pittsburgh Steelers
          RT Mitchell Schwartz Cleveland Browns
          QB Ben Roethlisberger Pittsburgh Steelers
          TE Jordan Cameron Cleveland Browns
          RB Le'Veon Bell Pittsburgh Steelers
          All-AFC North Defense
          DE Michael Johnson Cincinnati Bengals
          DT Phil Taylor Cleveland Browns
          DT Arthur Jones Baltimore Ravens
          DE Carlos Dunlap Cincinnati Bengals
          OLB Jason Worilds Pittsburgh Steelers
          ILB Daryl Smith Baltimore Ravens
          ILB Vontaze Burfict Cincinnati Bengals
          OLB Terrell Suggs Baltimore Ravens
          CB Joe Haden Cleveland Browns
          CB Jimmy Smith Baltimore Ravens
          SS James Ihedigbo Baltimore Ravens
          FS Troy Polamalu Pittsburgh Steelers

          5 out of 11 players on O, 4 players you'd expect to be there plus Mitchell Schwartz - not convinced about that one.

          Only two players on D though, which probably reflects the collapses of the D over the second half of games/the season. Did James Ihedigbo - he of Little-choking fame - play better than TJ Ward? I doubt it.

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          Bag O' DicksB Bag O' Dicks wrote on last edited by
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          @gftchris said:

          http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/2952/all-afc-north-cleveland-browns

          5 out of 11 players on O, 4 players you'd expect to be there plus Mitchell Schwartz - not convinced about that one.

          Only two players on D though, which probably reflects the collapses of the D over the second half of games/the season. Did James Ihedigbo - he of Little-choking fame - play better than TJ Ward? I doubt it.

          This is completely scewed and incorrect. First of all...Marshall Yanda should be the starting RG...he is vast superior to David freaking DeCastro LOL. Yanda is regarded as one of, if not the best RG in all of football who was once again a Pro Bowler...so there's that.

          Secondly, Phil Taylor?! I mean I know you're a diehard Browns fan, but I think any smart person knows Phil Taylor cannot wipe Haloti Ngatas behind. With saying that, Ngata is your top DT and should be in there.

          Also, James Ihedigbo...he doesn't belong in here. Lets be serious...hes a special teamer. period.

          I agree with Cameron over Pitta and Heath Miller for sure.

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          • Bag O' DicksB Bag O' Dicks

            @gftchris said:

            http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/2952/all-afc-north-cleveland-browns

            5 out of 11 players on O, 4 players you'd expect to be there plus Mitchell Schwartz - not convinced about that one.

            Only two players on D though, which probably reflects the collapses of the D over the second half of games/the season. Did James Ihedigbo - he of Little-choking fame - play better than TJ Ward? I doubt it.

            This is completely scewed and incorrect. First of all...Marshall Yanda should be the starting RG...he is vast superior to David freaking DeCastro LOL. Yanda is regarded as one of, if not the best RG in all of football who was once again a Pro Bowler...so there's that.

            Secondly, Phil Taylor?! I mean I know you're a diehard Browns fan, but I think any smart person knows Phil Taylor cannot wipe Haloti Ngatas behind. With saying that, Ngata is your top DT and should be in there.

            Also, James Ihedigbo...he doesn't belong in here. Lets be serious...hes a special teamer. period.

            I agree with Cameron over Pitta and Heath Miller for sure.

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            bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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            Ravens5220 said:

            This is completely scewed and incorrect. First of all...Marshall Yanda should be the starting RG...he is vast superior to David freaking DeCastro LOL. Yanda is regarded as one of, if not the best RG in all of football who was once again a Pro Bowler...so there's that.

            Secondly, Phil Taylor?! I mean I know you're a diehard Browns fan, but I think any smart person knows Phil Taylor cannot wipe Haloti Ngatas behind. With saying that, Ngata is your top DT and should be in there.

            Also, James Ihedigbo...he doesn't belong in here. Lets be serious...hes a special teamer. period.

            I agree with Cameron over Pitta and Heath Miller for sure.

            You come in a month later on a browns forum just to be butt hurt over some ESPN blog post?

            I don't think we really care about the ravens interior line personnel.

            Besides, Geno Atkins is the #1 DT in the division.

            Stay classy Raven fans.

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              Ravens5220 said:

              This is completely scewed and incorrect. First of all...Marshall Yanda should be the starting RG...he is vast superior to David freaking DeCastro LOL. Yanda is regarded as one of, if not the best RG in all of football who was once again a Pro Bowler...so there's that.

              Secondly, Phil Taylor?! I mean I know you're a diehard Browns fan, but I think any smart person knows Phil Taylor cannot wipe Haloti Ngatas behind. With saying that, Ngata is your top DT and should be in there.

              Also, James Ihedigbo...he doesn't belong in here. Lets be serious...hes a special teamer. period.

              I agree with Cameron over Pitta and Heath Miller for sure.

              You come in a month later on a browns forum just to be butt hurt over some ESPN blog post?

              I don't think we really care about the ravens interior line personnel.

              Besides, Geno Atkins is the #1 DT in the division.

              Stay classy Raven fans.

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              Bag O' DicksB Bag O' Dicks wrote on last edited by
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              @bbedward said:

              You come in a month later on a browns forum just to be butt hurt over some ESPN blog post?

              I don't think we really care about the ravens interior line personnel.

              Besides, Geno Atkins is the #1 DT in the division.

              Stay classy Raven fans.

              I'm always classy. You didn't see me go overboard. I am just giving my opinion on a biased awful ALL-Division squad. That's all/

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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                You think I made that team up? It's from the ESPN website, voted for by AFC north writers, followers of all teams.

                That being said, I'll give you Taylor/Ngata/Atkins is a pretty tough call, and you could argue for any of them. Oh, and, Ihedigbo is a thug.

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                • gftChrisG gftChris

                  You think I made that team up? It's from the ESPN website, voted for by AFC north writers, followers of all teams.

                  That being said, I'll give you Taylor/Ngata/Atkins is a pretty tough call, and you could argue for any of them. Oh, and, Ihedigbo is a thug.

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                  Bag O' DicksB Bag O' Dicks wrote on last edited by
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                  @gftchris said:

                  You think I made that team up? It's from the ESPN website, voted for by AFC north writers, followers of all teams.

                  That being said, I'll give you Taylor/Ngata/Atkins is a pretty tough call, and you could argue for any of them. Oh, and, Ihedigbo is a thug.

                  Ngata and Atkins are far superior to Taylor...that's simple. Also, Ihedigbo is not a thug, just a funny ass name and a special teamer.

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                  • Bag O' DicksB Bag O' Dicks

                    @gftchris said:

                    http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/2952/all-afc-north-cleveland-browns

                    5 out of 11 players on O, 4 players you'd expect to be there plus Mitchell Schwartz - not convinced about that one.

                    Only two players on D though, which probably reflects the collapses of the D over the second half of games/the season. Did James Ihedigbo - he of Little-choking fame - play better than TJ Ward? I doubt it.

                    This is completely scewed and incorrect. First of all...Marshall Yanda should be the starting RG...he is vast superior to David freaking DeCastro LOL. Yanda is regarded as one of, if not the best RG in all of football who was once again a Pro Bowler...so there's that.

                    Secondly, Phil Taylor?! I mean I know you're a diehard Browns fan, but I think any smart person knows Phil Taylor cannot wipe Haloti Ngatas behind. With saying that, Ngata is your top DT and should be in there.

                    Also, James Ihedigbo...he doesn't belong in here. Lets be serious...hes a special teamer. period.

                    I agree with Cameron over Pitta and Heath Miller for sure.

                    The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    Ravens5220 said:

                    This is completely scewed and incorrect. First of all...Marshall Yanda should be the starting RG...he is vast superior to David freaking DeCastro LOL. Yanda is regarded as one of, if not the best RG in all of football who was once again a Pro Bowler...so there's that.

                    Secondly, Phil Taylor?! I mean I know you're a diehard Browns fan, but I think any smart person knows Phil Taylor cannot wipe Haloti Ngatas behind. With saying that, Ngata is your top DT and should be in there.

                    Also, James Ihedigbo...he doesn't belong in here. Lets be serious...hes a special teamer. period.

                    I agree with Cameron over Pitta and Heath Miller for sure.

                    More or less agree with you again. Yanda is proven. DeCastro, while quality, is still learning.

                    Phil Taylor CAN wipe Ngatas behind.....they are close in talent, but I would give the edge to Ngata.

                    But TJ Ward had a better year than Polomalu.

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                      Ravens5220 said:

                      This is completely scewed and incorrect. First of all...Marshall Yanda should be the starting RG...he is vast superior to David freaking DeCastro LOL. Yanda is regarded as one of, if not the best RG in all of football who was once again a Pro Bowler...so there's that.

                      Secondly, Phil Taylor?! I mean I know you're a diehard Browns fan, but I think any smart person knows Phil Taylor cannot wipe Haloti Ngatas behind. With saying that, Ngata is your top DT and should be in there.

                      Also, James Ihedigbo...he doesn't belong in here. Lets be serious...hes a special teamer. period.

                      I agree with Cameron over Pitta and Heath Miller for sure.

                      You come in a month later on a browns forum just to be butt hurt over some ESPN blog post?

                      I don't think we really care about the ravens interior line personnel.

                      Besides, Geno Atkins is the #1 DT in the division.

                      Stay classy Raven fans.

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @bbedward said:

                      You come in a month later on a browns forum just to be butt hurt over some ESPN blog post?

                      I don't think we really care about the ravens interior line personnel.

                      Besides, Geno Atkins is the #1 DT in the division.

                      Stay classy Raven fans.

                      You definitely have a point about Atkins. Not sure why this Dunlop guy is on this list. The DTs coulda been Atkins and Ngata instead of Taylor and Dunlop.

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                      • Bag O' DicksB Bag O' Dicks

                        @gftchris said:

                        You think I made that team up? It's from the ESPN website, voted for by AFC north writers, followers of all teams.

                        That being said, I'll give you Taylor/Ngata/Atkins is a pretty tough call, and you could argue for any of them. Oh, and, Ihedigbo is a thug.

                        Ngata and Atkins are far superior to Taylor...that's simple. Also, Ihedigbo is not a thug, just a funny ass name and a special teamer.

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                        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                        Ravens5220 said:

                        Ngata and Atkins are far superior to Taylor...that's simple. Also, Ihedigbo is not a thug, just a funny ass name and a special teamer.

                        I agree with that. Taylor's kinda lazy.

                        But this is just some ESPN guy's ill-informed opinion. No reason to really look into it with any insight.

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                          Ravens5220 said:

                          This is completely scewed and incorrect. First of all...Marshall Yanda should be the starting RG...he is vast superior to David freaking DeCastro LOL. Yanda is regarded as one of, if not the best RG in all of football who was once again a Pro Bowler...so there's that.

                          Secondly, Phil Taylor?! I mean I know you're a diehard Browns fan, but I think any smart person knows Phil Taylor cannot wipe Haloti Ngatas behind. With saying that, Ngata is your top DT and should be in there.

                          Also, James Ihedigbo...he doesn't belong in here. Lets be serious...hes a special teamer. period.

                          I agree with Cameron over Pitta and Heath Miller for sure.

                          More or less agree with you again. Yanda is proven. DeCastro, while quality, is still learning.

                          Phil Taylor CAN wipe Ngatas behind.....they are close in talent, but I would give the edge to Ngata.

                          But TJ Ward had a better year than Polomalu.

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                          thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                          @the-gipper said:

                          But TJ Ward had a better year than Polomalu.

                          Polumalu is a FS, Ward is SS. They are the best 2 at their positions in the division... and, Phil Taylor is a monster. I only wish he would stay on the field more...

                          #Justsayin'
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                            @the-gipper said:

                            But TJ Ward had a better year than Polomalu.

                            Polumalu is a FS, Ward is SS. They are the best 2 at their positions in the division... and, Phil Taylor is a monster. I only wish he would stay on the field more...

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            The lack of any Browns LBs on the team says all you need to know about our need to return to the 4-3...

                            @thenew23 said:

                            ... Phil Taylor is a monster. I only wish he would stay on the field more...

                            Yup... Big Phil was lights out as a NT this year. The degree to which he embraced that role absolutely shocked me.

                            I honestly would take him over Ngata or Atkins at NT... and I love Ngata... if for no other reason than the mid-air hit he put on RG3.

                            As a 4-3 DT I take Geno over either of them and probably tab Haloti as my #2.

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                              L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                              Schwartz hahaha he is awful

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