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"Can't Miss" Players in 2014 NFL Draft

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  • @the-gipper said:

    If Tour says "no QB in my opinion rates a can't miss" I would not argue...probably agree. But when you state that opinion on such a hot button topic people want to also know Why?

    I stated it by omission? 😵

    I can link to my cases against Bridgewater and Manziel, who are the only two QBs in the draft to even approach consensus Can't Miss status... and neither is really that close from all I have read.

    @thenew23 said:

    Ideally, I think our D would look good as a 4-3...

    Taylor/Bryant in the middle, Kruger/Sheard on the outside, Jackson in the middle, Mingo/Robertson at OLB, Haden/Skrine at CB, Ward at SS, and a gaping hole at FS

    Agree on the 4-3... but do not see Bryant in any DT rotation. I see Taylor/ Rubin/ Winn/ Hughes...

    If you think DQ is your MLB (I do not), then draft Barr at #4 and set your LB corps Mingo-Jackson-Barr. I'd move DQ back outside, and snag Borland in the 3rd for my MLB... Mingo-Borland-Jackson.

    Not sure what to do at FS...

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    If Pettine stays true to his "put the best players on the field" mantra, we'll be running the good ol' 4-4.

    Actually more like a revolutionary 7-2-2...

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree on the 4-3... but do not see Bryant in any DT rotation. I see Taylor/ Rubin/ Winn/ Hughes...

    If you think DQ is your MLB (I do not), then draft Barr at #4 and set your LB corps Mingo-Jackson-Barr. I'd move DQ back outside, and snag Borland in the 3rd for my MLB... Mingo-Borland-Jackson.

    Desmond Bryant was our most disruptive D-lineman last year before he got hurt, and one of our highest paid... why would you not see him in the rotation?

    Also, DQJ never played OLB... and he was much more effective in his 2 seasons in the 4-3 than he ever was in his career... I'd add a player behind him to groom, but he is more than capable of starting at ILB with 4 linemen in front of him... he shrinks when there are only 3...

  • if your definition of bust doesn't include injury then I'd place Bridgewater in the "can't miss" category. The kid is by far the most pro-ready and has the accuracy and the brain to do big things in the league. The only concern, and it isn't a big one, is that he doesn't have the frame to hold up in the NFL.

  • if your definition of bust doesn't include injury then I'd place Bridgewater in the "can't miss" category. The kid is by far the most pro-ready and has the accuracy and the brain to do big things in the league. The only concern, and it isn't a big one, is that he doesn't have the frame to hold up in the NFL.

    @roycerolls said:

    if your definition of bust doesn't include injury then I'd place Bridgewater in the "can't miss" category. The kid is by far the most pro-ready and has the accuracy and the brain to do big things in the league. The only concern, and it isn't a big one, is that he doesn't have the frame to hold up in the NFL.

    They have meds errrrr ummm I mean nutrition and conditioning to fix that

  • @tour2ma said:

    Agree on the 4-3... but do not see Bryant in any DT rotation. I see Taylor/ Rubin/ Winn/ Hughes...

    If you think DQ is your MLB (I do not), then draft Barr at #4 and set your LB corps Mingo-Jackson-Barr. I'd move DQ back outside, and snag Borland in the 3rd for my MLB... Mingo-Borland-Jackson.

    Desmond Bryant was our most disruptive D-lineman last year before he got hurt, and one of our highest paid... why would you not see him in the rotation?

    Also, DQJ never played OLB... and he was much more effective in his 2 seasons in the 4-3 than he ever was in his career... I'd add a player behind him to groom, but he is more than capable of starting at ILB with 4 linemen in front of him... he shrinks when there are only 3...

    @thenew23 said:

    Desmond Bryant was our most disruptive D-lineman last year before he got hurt, and one of our highest paid... why would you not see him in the rotation?

    Also, DQJ never played OLB... and he was much more effective in his 2 seasons in the 4-3 than he ever was in his career... I'd add a player behind him to groom, but he is more than capable of starting at ILB with 4 linemen in front of him... he shrinks when there are only 3...

    Bryant was a DE in our 3-4. I do not see him having the same disruptive success at DT in a 4-3.

    My bad on DQ... ILB/ MLB since 2006. I have always felt he was miscast inside.

  • @thenew23 said:

    Desmond Bryant was our most disruptive D-lineman last year before he got hurt, and one of our highest paid... why would you not see him in the rotation?

    Also, DQJ never played OLB... and he was much more effective in his 2 seasons in the 4-3 than he ever was in his career... I'd add a player behind him to groom, but he is more than capable of starting at ILB with 4 linemen in front of him... he shrinks when there are only 3...

    Bryant was a DE in our 3-4. I do not see him having the same disruptive success at DT in a 4-3.

    My bad on DQ... ILB/ MLB since 2006. I have always felt he was miscast inside.

    @tour2ma said:

    Bryant was a DE in our 3-4. I do not see him having the same disruptive success at DT in a 4-3.

    In 2012, Bryant was DT in a 4-3 at Oakland.

    2012 - 16 games played - 36 total tackles (26 solo), 4 sacks, 6 TFL, 1 pass deflected, 1 kick block, and 1 FF

    2013 - 12 games played - 31 total tackles (11 solo), 3.5 sacks, and 2 TFL

    Seems just as disruptive when playing in a 4-3...

  • @MaryKayCabot: #Browns OC Shanahan on drafting a quarterback: "you don't need a certain type of QB, you need the best one.''

  • @MaryKayCabot: #Browns OC Shanahan on drafting a quarterback: "you don't need a certain type of QB, you need the best one.''

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    @MaryKayCabot: #Browns OC Shanahan on drafting a quarterback: "you don't need a certain type of QB, you need the best one.''

    oh great it's that fucking easy. How comes no one has ever Thought of that. And how do we get Tom Brady for that fact.
  • @MaryKayCabot: #Browns OC Shanahan on drafting a quarterback: "you don't need a certain type of QB, you need the best one.''

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    @MaryKayCabot: #Browns OC Shanahan on drafting a quarterback: "you don't need a certain type of QB, you need the best one.''

    Is Shannie selling decoder rings?

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    @MaryKayCabot: #Browns OC Shanahan on drafting a quarterback: "you don't need a certain type of QB, you need the best one.''

    Is Shannie selling decoder rings?

    @tour2ma said:

    Is Shannie selling decoder rings?

    he's selling something...........and i can smell it all the way from NY.

    are we going to base a system around a QB or vice versa?

  • @tour2ma said:

    Is Shannie selling decoder rings?

    he's selling something...........and i can smell it all the way from NY.

    are we going to base a system around a QB or vice versa?

    @miktoxic said:

    he's selling something...........and i can smell it all the way from NY.

    are we going to base a system around a QB or vice versa?

    In his press conference he said the system needs to be flexible so it can work around what your QB does best.

    So according to Shanny, system around the QB's talent.

  • OK.... I wonder what Kyle thinks Wheezy's talent is?

  • OK.... I wonder what Kyle thinks Wheezy's talent is?

    @tour2ma said:

    OK.... I wonder what Kyle thinks Wheezy's talent is?

    Was too nice to answer.

    Said he coached him in senior bowl and thought he was a decent guy, but didn't evaluate him a lot because they knew they were going with rg3.

    Said he's only been in town for 3 days and hasn't had enough time to evaluate our QBs on film.

    Oh yeah.

    Weeden dazzled scouts in practice at the senior bowl and had some people raving. Then in the actual game he had 5 completions with 2 interceptions? Sounds kind of familiar lol.