Who does everyone want with our first 3 picks?
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1. Bortles
1b. Clinton-Dix
2. Beckham Jr.
3 playmakers... realistic? doubt it
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Projecting these is close to impossible until the FA signings are completed. Totally ignoring that I am trading down to 8 with Minnesota and picking up their 2nd and 4th round picks. Then in the 1st and 2nd rounds I am taking
1st Round
#8 - Khalil Mack MLB
#26 - Justin Gilbert CB
2nd Round
#35 - David Yankey G
#40 - Jordan Matthews WR
3rd Round
#71 - Garoppolo QB
#83 - Shayne Skov ILB
4th Round
#102 - Charles Sims RB
#122 - J Prosch FB
For later round picks I would want to pick up Jeff Janis WR and Jeff Matthews QB
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In a world in which Fan'sSpeak on the clock draft simulations could actually happen...
#4 Clowney
#26 Manzel
#35 Benjerman
Wishful thinking first 3 picks
#4 Bridgwater
#26 Dennard
#35 Benjerman
More Realistic
#4 Manzel
#26 Yankey
#35 Beckham JR
What will actually happen...
#4 Donald
#26 Lee
#35 McCarron
facepalm....
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Honestly, Manzel did not impress me at the combine. He is supposed to be a mover but ran like a 4.6. For a guy as small as him I would rather see him run at least a 4.5. I know a lot of it is quick feet and moves, but if your going to run that slow at least he a compact build like Wilson does. It really drops him down to QB #3 for me, but at the same time I would still be happy with him or any of the top 3 QBs.
Now I'm not going to pick a 2nd round guy here, because I do not know enough about the 2nd rounders yet to want to make a selection, but I honestly hope we got BPA instead of for need. Honestly would not be mad if we ended up picking two WR with the top 3 picks.
4. Top 3 QB
26. Allen Robinson or Brandin Cook
35. BPA
or
4. Watkins
26. Carr or Garoppolo
35. BPA
I do NOT want to see us draft Clowney even if he is there. I do not think he has the heart to be a top tier player. He might be until he gets his first FA deal, but then he is going to stop trying. I see him being a guy who is going to take a stubbed toe and turn it into a 3 week injury sit. Mack I wouldn't be mad with, but honestly I don't want to see us take an OLB again first pick unless we trade down a bit. Top 3 QB or Watkins and we should be solid.
Robinson or Cook are both going to be good WR in this league. Book it. I think they are even a safer pick than Evans, even though he will likely be gone by the time we pick. Both good speed and hands with great college production. Robinson is obviously taller and slightly slower while Cook is shorter and more of a burner, but that evens them out in my book. They won't be on Watkins level likely but both will be good, especially when pairs with Gordan and Cameron.
I have been very impressed with both Carr and Garoppolo as QB prospects. Carr was talked about as a top 5 draft pick along with Bortles for a while until he didn't have a great game against USC in his bowl game, but he put up great numbers during the season, improved every season, and has good production. If the bowl games had been reversed for Bortles and Carr, Carr would be talked about as the possible #1 while Bortles would be seen as a late 1st early 2nd round pick. I don't think one bowl game makes or breaks a player, I think their season and career production do and in that aspect I would rate Carr even higher than Bortles. I also take a lot of stock in things like the East-West Shrine game and the Senior Bowl. You are taking players and putting them up against the top producers in the NCAA. And in these games both Carr and Garoppolo shined (Carr only being in the Senior Bowl). Garoppolo has went from no name to star because he has shown the ability to play with the big boys in these games. His only knock is that within the top 5 QB's, his arm is likely the weakest. The thing though is he also has the quickest release and the most zip on his passes. He showed during a particularly windy practice at the senior bowl that even though he only has an average arm, he can still zip the ball through the wind (Carr did equally well during this practice).
This is why I honestly believe we go QB/WR or WR/QB in the first round, and honestly I would be more than happy with any scenario where we did as long as we grabbed these players.
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1a- clowney, Bridgewater, or trade back
1b- Kyle fuller, gilbert, or dennard. We have to land one of these 3. The rest of the cb class looks like duds unless one of the small school kids busts out.
2- whichever wr is left out of this very deep class. Lee, Beckham, Matthews, and Robinson are all very good options for the #2 wr.
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1. Blake Bortles - my favorite QB in the draft. I think he's going to Houston first overall though, so I'll back up and say Manziel.
1. Brandin Cooks
2. Carlos Hyde
I think the Browns can address other needs later in the draft, through free agency and possibly through draft deals. A lot of picks and a lot of different ways to go with them. Going this route shores up three distinct holes in the Browns' attack and I'd like to see that focus.
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Hyde ran a 4.66 40 and hurt his hamstring so that's not good.
I like him but he doesn't strike me as a guy that would fit into the Shannahan running game.
I'd be excited to see a lot of guys with our top pick the only guys I'd be disappointed with is an o-lineman or Bridgewater.
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I like that everyone has such a wildly different opinion.
Should make for interesting April/May

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1A. Bridgewater, Manziel, Bortles, Watkins, Clowney. In that order (though Manziel and Bortles flip a lot).
1B. Assuming we go QB first, I'd love to nab a WR. Matthews, Robinson, Benjamin, Marquis Lee if he fell this far.
2. Gotta go RB here. I'm a big fan of Ka'Deem Carey, but Hyde or Mason are also great picks.
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#04- Mike Evans
#26- Derek Carr
#35- Tre Mason
This would be okay, though- I think it might change tomorrow.
#04- Mike Evans
#26- Derek Carr
#35- Tre Mason
This would be okay, though- I think it might change tomorrow.
I hope you do- Evans is a slightly better version of Alshon Jeffrey but he's not a top 5 pick by any stretch of the imagination.
Carr may well be there @ #26, and please don't go all T-rich over Mason- but good to see yall learned a thang or two about drafting a RB with the #3 overall. Oh, IMO Mason will have a much more productive pro career than Richardson.
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Clowney
Watkins
Yankey
WSS
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trade with Falcons
6.Teddy Twatwater
26. trade to Tampa for Revis, they are going tampa 2 with Lovie Smith, so man to man coverage wont be happening
35. Tre Mason
37. Best Guard AV
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trade down to 7-9 and pick up another pick and:
7. evans WR
use the other pick to trade up to 17 (cuz he won't be there at 26):
17, gilbert CB
35, best OT on board.
i'd pick up a QB in the 3rd like fales or garoppollo and then fill in the holes.
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@walterwhite said:
You just can't "trade down" at your own convenience and we'd have to try to find a willing partner.
In a draft this deep, I don't know if we will find one.
We are sitting at a good spot at #4, teams will want Cloney if he falls to us, and the same for others.
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1. Clowney/Watkins/Mack
1a. Find a way to Gilbert.
2. Mettenburg.
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1. Clowney/Watkins/Mack
1a. Find a way to Gilbert.
2. Mettenburg.
1. Clowney/Watkins/Mack
1a. Find a way to Gilbert.
2. Mettenburg.
Mettenburger in the second would be a hell of a reach, he'll be there in round 3 and probably round 4.
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yes. especially coming off the injury and the fact that he isn't that good to begin with.
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In a world in which Fan'sSpeak on the clock draft simulations could actually happen...
#4 Clowney
#26 Manzel
#35 Benjerman
Wishful thinking first 3 picks
#4 Bridgwater
#26 Dennard
#35 Benjerman
More Realistic
#4 Manzel
#26 Yankey
#35 Beckham JR
What will actually happen...
#4 Donald
#26 Lee
#35 McCarron
facepalm....
In a world in which Fan'sSpeak on the clock draft simulations could actually happen...
#4 Clowney
#26 Manzel
#35 Benjerman
Wishful thinking first 3 picks
#4 Bridgwater
#26 Dennard
#35 Benjerman
More Realistic
#4 Manzel
#26 Yankey
#35 Beckham JR
What will actually happen...
#4 Donald
#26 Lee
#35 McCarron
facepalm....
I did the full 7 on the draft simulator and came up with this...
4. Sammy
26. Gilbert
35. Beckham Jr.
71. Tre Mason
83. OG Cyril Richardson
102. CB Keith McGill
123. Aaron Murray
133. ILB Max Bullough
164. OT Seantrel Henderson
195. DE Aaron Lynch
I realize most of them shouldn't be available like that, but you never know..I passed on Manziel & Teddy @4
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1. Bridgewater - If they cant get him at 4 then I am ok trading down (taking best DPA) for an extra 1st next year.
2. Best defensive player available
3. Best defensive player available
I am surprised so many want a WR and RB. Since we all love to look at SB winners, I looked at the RBs from those teams over the last 10 years and I am not seeing much. Lynch may be the best RB on a SB winner in a long time and he is nice, not great. Even the WR cores are just ok.
It makes sense if you think about this way. I doubt anybody would disagree QB is the most important position by a ton. I think most would also agree that defense is just about as important as offense. Going a step further, no defensive position impacts a defense the way QB impacts an offense. Essentially, I am saying a good S, or CB, or ILB helps a defense close to equally. Whereas a good QB helps an offense more than an OG, or WR, etc. And since O and D are both equally important, it goes to say ILB, S, CB, etc are slightly more important than WR, RB, etc.
Many like to refer to the Seattle model and this is exactly how they did it! They are really good at QB and defense. And overall mediocre at the other 10 offensive positions.
Also, I am not looking at Bridgewater to a savior, or the next Rodgers (tho itd be nice), or whatever. He just needs be like 12-16th best QB in the league good to justify the pick. And I think he has a pretty high floor.
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