Hate The Thought Of Trading Up
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I WOULD BE SOOO EFF'N PISSED OFF IF THEY BLOW THE ENTIRE DRAFT TO MOVE UP 1 or 2 SPOTS!
This draft is deep with a lot of solid players in the middle to late first round. IF ANYTHING, i would TRADE DOWN to grab a few more play makers and defensive players or even another few first rounders next season. I like next season's QB coming out.
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I WOULD BE SOOO EFF'N PISSED OFF IF THEY BLOW THE ENTIRE DRAFT TO MOVE UP 1 or 2 SPOTS!
This draft is deep with a lot of solid players in the middle to late first round. IF ANYTHING, i would TRADE DOWN to grab a few more play makers and defensive players or even another few first rounders next season. I like next season's QB coming out.
I WOULD BE SOOO EFF'N PISSED OFF IF THEY BLOW THE ENTIRE DRAFT TO MOVE UP 1 or 2 SPOTS!
This draft is deep with a lot of solid players in the middle to late first round. IF ANYTHING, i would TRADE DOWN to grab a few more play makers and defensive players or even another few first rounders next season. I like next season's QB coming out.
same here.
to all the people that say "wah! i don't understand the people that don't want a QB wah! wah with our first pick wah!!
doesn't it make sense to have the team QB-ready when we do throw all of our chips on the table? this team is no where near that. our right side of the OL is like running through (for defenders) open barn doors. we don't have a #2 corner, we need another safety, another ILB, we need a RB and a big time WR. so that's 5 holes that need to be filled with NFL ready guys. so maybe we use more than half of the other picks to draft up in certain situations.
giving the ball right now to any of these guys will end up with them being the next tim couch (even though we DO have a LT now).
BUILD THE TEAM!! hand the reigns over to the next pretty boy next year and have hoyer ride it out this year. who knows he might surprise everyone and there is NO reason that you just dismiss a guy because YOU want your boy toy.
will you all applaud when johnny gets plowed into the ground like couch did?
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I WOULD BE SOOO EFF'N PISSED OFF IF THEY BLOW THE ENTIRE DRAFT TO MOVE UP 1 or 2 SPOTS!
This draft is deep with a lot of solid players in the middle to late first round. IF ANYTHING, i would TRADE DOWN to grab a few more play makers and defensive players or even another few first rounders next season. I like next season's QB coming out.
I WOULD BE SOOO EFF'N PISSED OFF IF THEY BLOW THE ENTIRE DRAFT TO MOVE UP 1 or 2 SPOTS!
This draft is deep with a lot of solid players in the middle to late first round. IF ANYTHING, i would TRADE DOWN to grab a few more play makers and defensive players or even another few first rounders next season. I like next season's QB coming out.
Again to make this claim you have to suck in the 2014 to have a real shot at any QBs next yr. So you are advocating that we lose and maybe blow things up again.
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I WOULD BE SOOO EFF'N PISSED OFF IF THEY BLOW THE ENTIRE DRAFT TO MOVE UP 1 or 2 SPOTS!
This draft is deep with a lot of solid players in the middle to late first round. IF ANYTHING, i would TRADE DOWN to grab a few more play makers and defensive players or even another few first rounders next season. I like next season's QB coming out.
same here.
to all the people that say "wah! i don't understand the people that don't want a QB wah! wah with our first pick wah!!
doesn't it make sense to have the team QB-ready when we do throw all of our chips on the table? this team is no where near that. our right side of the OL is like running through (for defenders) open barn doors. we don't have a #2 corner, we need another safety, another ILB, we need a RB and a big time WR. so that's 5 holes that need to be filled with NFL ready guys. so maybe we use more than half of the other picks to draft up in certain situations.
giving the ball right now to any of these guys will end up with them being the next tim couch (even though we DO have a LT now).
BUILD THE TEAM!! hand the reigns over to the next pretty boy next year and have hoyer ride it out this year. who knows he might surprise everyone and there is NO reason that you just dismiss a guy because YOU want your boy toy.
will you all applaud when johnny gets plowed into the ground like couch did?
same here.
to all the people that say "wah! i don't understand the people that don't want a QB wah! wah with our first pick wah!!
doesn't it make sense to have the team QB-ready when we do throw all of our chips on the table? this team is no where near that. our right side of the OL is like running through (for defenders) open barn doors. we don't have a #2 corner, we need another safety, another ILB, we need a RB and a big time WR. so that's 5 holes that need to be filled with NFL ready guys. so maybe we use more than half of the other picks to draft up in certain situations.
giving the ball right now to any of these guys will end up with them being the next tim couch (even though we DO have a LT now).
BUILD THE TEAM!! hand the reigns over to the next pretty boy next year and have hoyer ride it out this year. who knows he might surprise everyone and there is NO reason that you just dismiss a guy because YOU want your boy toy.
will you all applaud when johnny gets plowed into the ground like couch did?
Every team has holes, the QB is the most important hole to fill, we also haev close to 50 million in cap space to address some of thoes holes prior to the draft.
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same here.
to all the people that say "wah! i don't understand the people that don't want a QB wah! wah with our first pick wah!!
doesn't it make sense to have the team QB-ready when we do throw all of our chips on the table? this team is no where near that. our right side of the OL is like running through (for defenders) open barn doors. we don't have a #2 corner, we need another safety, another ILB, we need a RB and a big time WR. so that's 5 holes that need to be filled with NFL ready guys. so maybe we use more than half of the other picks to draft up in certain situations.
giving the ball right now to any of these guys will end up with them being the next tim couch (even though we DO have a LT now).
BUILD THE TEAM!! hand the reigns over to the next pretty boy next year and have hoyer ride it out this year. who knows he might surprise everyone and there is NO reason that you just dismiss a guy because YOU want your boy toy.
will you all applaud when johnny gets plowed into the ground like couch did?
Every team has holes, the QB is the most important hole to fill, we also haev close to 50 million in cap space to address some of thoes holes prior to the draft.
Every team has holes, the QB is the most important hole to fill, we also haev close to 50 million in cap space to address some of thoes holes prior to the draft.
not as many as seattle did when they drafted wilson, or san fran when they drafted kaep.
the only QB that got drafted recently to a shitty team was luck, but none of these guys could sniff his jock. RG3 hasn't won shit because the redskins are full of holes and got hurt the first year when he tried to be 'the running QB'. then they said you have to stay in the pocket and he sucked.
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Every team has holes, the QB is the most important hole to fill, we also haev close to 50 million in cap space to address some of thoes holes prior to the draft.
not as many as seattle did when they drafted wilson, or san fran when they drafted kaep.
the only QB that got drafted recently to a shitty team was luck, but none of these guys could sniff his jock. RG3 hasn't won shit because the redskins are full of holes and got hurt the first year when he tried to be 'the running QB'. then they said you have to stay in the pocket and he sucked.
not as many as seattle did when they drafted wilson, or san fran when they drafted kaep.
the only QB that got drafted recently to a shitty team was luck, but none of these guys could sniff his jock. RG3 hasn't won shit because the redskins are full of holes and got hurt the first year when he tried to be 'the running QB'. then they said you have to stay in the pocket and he sucked.
Luck didn't really get drafted to a crappy team - with manning they were playoff contenders, had to go with crappy QB play for a year and got beaten every week, then took Luck and became a playoff team again. I'd say RG3 got drafted to a worse team.
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Every team has holes, the QB is the most important hole to fill, we also haev close to 50 million in cap space to address some of thoes holes prior to the draft.
not as many as seattle did when they drafted wilson, or san fran when they drafted kaep.
the only QB that got drafted recently to a shitty team was luck, but none of these guys could sniff his jock. RG3 hasn't won shit because the redskins are full of holes and got hurt the first year when he tried to be 'the running QB'. then they said you have to stay in the pocket and he sucked.
not as many as seattle did when they drafted wilson, or san fran when they drafted kaep.
the only QB that got drafted recently to a shitty team was luck, but none of these guys could sniff his jock. RG3 hasn't won shit because the redskins are full of holes and got hurt the first year when he tried to be 'the running QB'. then they said you have to stay in the pocket and he sucked.
Yes but remember those situations too. San Fran has Alex Smith who was playing decently, they weren't in dire need of QB upgrade because they had a decent signal caller, Kaepernick was a good value pick for them. Same with Wilson, they had just signed a FA QB that everyone thought would be the starter and Wilson beat him out. We have Hoyer, who could be something or may not, he played 2 whole games for us, really tough to tell.
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not as many as seattle did when they drafted wilson, or san fran when they drafted kaep.
the only QB that got drafted recently to a shitty team was luck, but none of these guys could sniff his jock. RG3 hasn't won shit because the redskins are full of holes and got hurt the first year when he tried to be 'the running QB'. then they said you have to stay in the pocket and he sucked.
Luck didn't really get drafted to a crappy team - with manning they were playoff contenders, had to go with crappy QB play for a year and got beaten every week, then took Luck and became a playoff team again. I'd say RG3 got drafted to a worse team.
Luck didn't really get drafted to a crappy team - with manning they were playoff contenders, had to go with crappy QB play for a year and got beaten every week, then took Luck and became a playoff team again. I'd say RG3 got drafted to a worse team.
Right. The Colts did a purposeful dive just to get Luck. It was purely dishonest on their part, but the league allowed them to get away with it.
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Luck didn't really get drafted to a crappy team - with manning they were playoff contenders, had to go with crappy QB play for a year and got beaten every week, then took Luck and became a playoff team again. I'd say RG3 got drafted to a worse team.
Right. The Colts did a purposeful dive just to get Luck. It was purely dishonest on their part, but the league allowed them to get away with it.
Right. The Colts did a purposeful dive just to get Luck. It was purely dishonest on their part, but the league allowed them to get away with it.
I think the Colts example just shows how important a QB really is, without Manning they were awful, lost. With a good QB they could compete, you can't win without one and ignoring the position makes no sense to me.
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Right. The Colts did a purposeful dive just to get Luck. It was purely dishonest on their part, but the league allowed them to get away with it.
I think the Colts example just shows how important a QB really is, without Manning they were awful, lost. With a good QB they could compete, you can't win without one and ignoring the position makes no sense to me.
I think the Colts example just shows how important a QB really is, without Manning they were awful, lost. With a good QB they could compete, you can't win without one and ignoring the position makes no sense to me.
Yea, but I don't think they were as bad as they showed. They obviously were nowhere near as good, but they also tanked to get that bad.
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the colts w/o manning was the like the browns with weeden behind center.
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>>>>>>>>>>>Not upgrading at QB will set us back as much as missing on a guy at 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<<<<<<<<<
But making a bad choice at 4 means we miss out on upgrading the quarterback and getting a good player. And it means we're stuck with the bum for years. And, lots of ands arent there, odds are great against any of the top 3 being blue chip quarterbacks.
Much more than the odds against the top line backer receiver or tackle.
WSS
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>>>>>>>>>>>Not upgrading at QB will set us back as much as missing on a guy at 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<<<<<<<<<
But making a bad choice at 4 means we miss out on upgrading the quarterback and getting a good player. And it means we're stuck with the bum for years. And, lots of ands arent there, odds are great against any of the top 3 being blue chip quarterbacks.
Much more than the odds against the top line backer receiver or tackle.
WSS
In your opinion the odds are great none are blue chippers. In my opinion these top 3 are better prospects than any QBs last year, and possibly next year. Even if we hit on the top WR or LB, theres a chance we pick top 5 again next year. If we hit on the QB were battling for a playoff spot. I think our roster is in the perfect spot to take a gamble on a QB.>>>>>>>>>>>Not upgrading at QB will set us back as much as missing on a guy at 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<<<<<<<<<
But making a bad choice at 4 means we miss out on upgrading the quarterback and getting a good player. And it means we're stuck with the bum for years. And, lots of ands arent there, odds are great against any of the top 3 being blue chip quarterbacks.
Much more than the odds against the top line backer receiver or tackle.
WSS
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In your opinion the odds are great none are blue chippers. In my opinion these top 3 are better prospects than any QBs last year, and possibly next year. Even if we hit on the top WR or LB, theres a chance we pick top 5 again next year. If we hit on the QB were battling for a playoff spot. I think our roster is in the perfect spot to take a gamble on a QB.>>>>>>>>>>>Not upgrading at QB will set us back as much as missing on a guy at 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<<<<<<<<<
But making a bad choice at 4 means we miss out on upgrading the quarterback and getting a good player. And it means we're stuck with the bum for years. And, lots of ands arent there, odds are great against any of the top 3 being blue chip quarterbacks.
Much more than the odds against the top line backer receiver or tackle.
WSS
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
In your opinion the odds are great none are blue chippers. In my opinion these top 3 are better prospects than any QBs last year, and possibly next year. Even if we hit on the top WR or LB, theres a chance we pick top 5 again next year. If we hit on the QB were battling for a playoff spot. I think our roster is in the perfect spot to take a gamble on a QB.
Well like I always say that's why they bet on these games. If you are in fact correct in your opinion then that would be the way to go.
WSS
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Every team has holes, the QB is the most important hole to fill, we also haev close to 50 million in cap space to address some of thoes holes prior to the draft.
not as many as seattle did when they drafted wilson, or san fran when they drafted kaep.
the only QB that got drafted recently to a shitty team was luck, but none of these guys could sniff his jock. RG3 hasn't won shit because the redskins are full of holes and got hurt the first year when he tried to be 'the running QB'. then they said you have to stay in the pocket and he sucked.
not as many as seattle did when they drafted wilson, or san fran when they drafted kaep.
the only QB that got drafted recently to a shitty team was luck, but none of these guys could sniff his jock. RG3 hasn't won shit because the redskins are full of holes and got hurt the first year when he tried to be 'the running QB'. then they said you have to stay in the pocket and he sucked.
and that Indy team wasn't eve really all that shitty they just tanked for Luck the year Peyton was injured.
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same here.
to all the people that say "wah! i don't understand the people that don't want a QB wah! wah with our first pick wah!!
doesn't it make sense to have the team QB-ready when we do throw all of our chips on the table? this team is no where near that. our right side of the OL is like running through (for defenders) open barn doors. we don't have a #2 corner, we need another safety, another ILB, we need a RB and a big time WR. so that's 5 holes that need to be filled with NFL ready guys. so maybe we use more than half of the other picks to draft up in certain situations.
giving the ball right now to any of these guys will end up with them being the next tim couch (even though we DO have a LT now).
BUILD THE TEAM!! hand the reigns over to the next pretty boy next year and have hoyer ride it out this year. who knows he might surprise everyone and there is NO reason that you just dismiss a guy because YOU want your boy toy.
will you all applaud when johnny gets plowed into the ground like couch did?
Every team has holes, the QB is the most important hole to fill, we also haev close to 50 million in cap space to address some of thoes holes prior to the draft.
Every team has holes, the QB is the most important hole to fill, we also haev close to 50 million in cap space to address some of thoes holes prior to the draft.
Fine, "IF" some of those holes get filled than we can move around some picks. But I'm really not sure we're gonna be getting a whole lot of FA signings...i really don't, nobody wants to come here. To get people here we have to do things like overpay Baltimore support pieces by 4m or more. ie Kruger. Sure, we'll get people to come here for double their market value. That doesn't work.
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The Colts have to be the most notorious tankers in the history of the NFL.
Think about it, 4 generations 4 top picks on blue chip QBs... Elway,Jeff George,Manning & Luck.
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The Colts have to be the most notorious tankers in the history of the NFL.
Think about it, 4 generations 4 top picks on blue chip QBs... Elway,Jeff George,Manning & Luck.
The Colts have to be the most notorious tankers in the history of the NFL.Think about it, 4 generations 4 top picks on blue chip QBs... Elway,Jeff George,Manning & Luck.
Hey Chris, is this what they call cockney slang?
WSS
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A rebuild is a 4-5 year plan.
That's how Seattle did it...
That's how the Giants did it..
That's how SF is doing it..
That's how Baltimore HAS been doing it..
That's how Steelers HAVE DONE it..
It starts with a SOLID Defense. A top flight Defense wins AWAY PLAYOFF games....
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