After threats and harassment, NC teen abandons atheist group
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Atheism is a direct insult to a religious institute. Would you go to a gay institution and start a straight peoples only club?
Atheism is a direct insult to a religious institute. Would you go to a gay institution and start a straight peoples only club?
The administrations at DePaul University (Catholic) and California Lutheran University, among other religious institutions would disagree with you as there are recognized secular student orgs at these places. Your example isn't a fair comparison for the reason Woody pointed out.
Anyways, my issue was that WSS immediately went on the defensive and labeled the group as anti-social just because it's an organization for secular students. I don't think that's fair either.
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Still I think you're not seeing this very clearly. It's definitely an antagonistic move
Still I think you're not seeing this very clearly. It's definitely an antagonistic move
No it is not, for the reasons Vapor listed
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If its a religious institution it is antagonism. Why would you choose to go to a religious school anyway when its not difficult to find a liberal arts school probably made up of 80 or more percent athiests? This is just being an assholr to try and prove a point and I have no sympathy for it
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If its a religious institution it is antagonism. Why would you choose to go to a religious school anyway when its not difficult to find a liberal arts school probably made up of 80 or more percent athiests? This is just being an assholr to try and prove a point and I have no sympathy for it
If its a religious institution it is antagonism. Why would you choose to go to a religious school anyway when its not difficult to find a liberal arts school probably made up of 80 or more percent athiests? This is just being an assholr to try and prove a point and I have no sympathy for it
Good discussion. Thanks for bothering to read what I had to say.
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Lol no its not. You honestly think this girl is just trying to be an asshole?
She is also 15, I'm guessing she has no say in where she went to school. Maybe it is the closest school or best school in the area. You don't know each individual situation for why someone that isn't religious is at a religious school.
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I think he's referring to my situation. FYI, I was religious when I first started. That changed as I went through it. As for why I still went there it's because they pay me to conduct research that can impact the field of medicine. Not to mention the friends I've made. I don't hate my alma mater. I just really disagree with the "don't like it, leave it" attitude, and I felt that this group was something the campus community was lacking. Seeing as we had a diverse group that was more active than the majority of groups on campus, I'd say it was a success regardless of what the diocese decided.
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Hopefully you will find the lord again as you mature and go through life's trials.
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I think he's referring to my situation. FYI, I was religious when I first started. That changed as I went through it. As for why I still went there it's because they pay me to conduct research that can impact the field of medicine. Not to mention the friends I've made. I don't hate my alma mater. I just really disagree with the "don't like it, leave it" attitude, and I felt that this group was something the campus community was lacking. Seeing as we had a diverse group that was more active than the majority of groups on campus, I'd say it was a success regardless of what the diocese decided.
I think he's referring to my situation. FYI, I was religious when I first started. That changed as I went through it. As for why I still went there it's because they pay me to conduct research that can impact the field of medicine. Not to mention the friends I've made. I don't hate my alma mater. I just really disagree with the "don't like it, leave it" attitude, and I felt that this group was something the campus community was lacking. Seeing as we had a diverse group that was more active than the majority of groups on campus, I'd say it was a success regardless of what the diocese decided.
No I was referring to her. It just seems like a douchey, attention whore-y, antagonistic thing to do. It's not right to threaten her but I'd definitely call her out as being a self important hipster. Just go to college and you know don't try to make a bunch of waves.
If you went to a school that were super liberal and started a tea party group you'd get nothing but heat and blowback. I'm not sure why she'd expect anything less.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
I think he's referring to my situation. FYI, I was religious when I first started. That changed as I went through it. As for why I still went there it's because they pay me to conduct research that can impact the field of medicine. Not to mention the friends I've made. I don't hate my alma mater. I just really disagree with the "don't like it, leave it" attitude, and I felt that this group was something the campus community was lacking. Seeing as we had a diverse group that was more active than the majority of groups on campus, I'd say it was a success regardless of what the diocese decided.
No I was referring to her. It just seems like a douchey, attention whore-y, antagonistic thing to do. It's not right to threaten her but I'd definitely call her out as being a self important hipster. Just go to college and you know don't try to make a bunch of waves.
If you went to a school that were super liberal and started a tea party group you'd get nothing but heat and blowback. I'm not sure why she'd expect anything less.
No I was referring to her. It just seems like a douchey, attention whore-y, antagonistic thing to do. It's not right to threaten her but I'd definitely call her out as being a self important hipster. Just go to college and you know don't try to make a bunch of waves.
If you went to a school that were super liberal and started a tea party group you'd get nothing but heat and blowback. I'm not sure why she'd expect anything less.
She started the group at a public high school.
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Hopefully you will find the lord again as you mature and go through life's trials.
Hopefully you will find the lord again as you mature and go through life's trials.
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I think he's referring to my situation. FYI, I was religious when I first started. That changed as I went through it. As for why I still went there it's because they pay me to conduct research that can impact the field of medicine. Not to mention the friends I've made. I don't hate my alma mater. I just really disagree with the "don't like it, leave it" attitude, and I felt that this group was something the campus community was lacking. Seeing as we had a diverse group that was more active than the majority of groups on campus, I'd say it was a success regardless of what the diocese decided.
No I was referring to her. It just seems like a douchey, attention whore-y, antagonistic thing to do. It's not right to threaten her but I'd definitely call her out as being a self important hipster. Just go to college and you know don't try to make a bunch of waves.
If you went to a school that were super liberal and started a tea party group you'd get nothing but heat and blowback. I'm not sure why she'd expect anything less.
No I was referring to her. It just seems like a douchey, attention whore-y, antagonistic thing to do. It's not right to threaten her but I'd definitely call her out as being a self important hipster. Just go to college and you know don't try to make a bunch of waves.
If you went to a school that were super liberal and started a tea party group you'd get nothing but heat and blowback. I'm not sure why she'd expect anything less.
A couple reasons have been given for why she may have done this. Honestly if anyone is coming off as an asshole here it is you. How dare any teenager do anything different than the current norm. How dare she create a group for herself and others to express their beliefs. How dare she go to a religious high school if she thinks like this, because she clearly has tons of options.
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No I was referring to her. It just seems like a douchey, attention whore-y, antagonistic thing to do. It's not right to threaten her but I'd definitely call her out as being a self important hipster. Just go to college and you know don't try to make a bunch of waves.
If you went to a school that were super liberal and started a tea party group you'd get nothing but heat and blowback. I'm not sure why she'd expect anything less.
She started the group at a public high school.
She started the group at a public high school.
Definitely no Religious groups allowed there then. Fuck off, Easter. Fuck off, Christmas.
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No I was referring to her. It just seems like a douchey, attention whore-y, antagonistic thing to do. It's not right to threaten her but I'd definitely call her out as being a self important hipster. Just go to college and you know don't try to make a bunch of waves.
If you went to a school that were super liberal and started a tea party group you'd get nothing but heat and blowback. I'm not sure why she'd expect anything less.
She started the group at a public high school.
She started the group at a public high school.
Well apparently I'm guilty of not reading. I'll soon be a human cent iPad. That actually changes my opinion on it. Hey, high school, who gives a rip
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
No I was referring to her. It just seems like a douchey, attention whore-y, antagonistic thing to do. It's not right to threaten her but I'd definitely call her out as being a self important hipster. Just go to college and you know don't try to make a bunch of waves.
If you went to a school that were super liberal and started a tea party group you'd get nothing but heat and blowback. I'm not sure why she'd expect anything less.
A couple reasons have been given for why she may have done this. Honestly if anyone is coming off as an asshole here it is you. How dare any teenager do anything different than the current norm. How dare she create a group for herself and others to express their beliefs. How dare she go to a religious high school if she thinks like this, because she clearly has tons of options.
A couple reasons have been given for why she may have done this. Honestly if anyone is coming off as an asshole here it is you. How dare any teenager do anything different than the current norm. How dare she create a group for herself and others to express their beliefs. How dare she go to a religious high school if she thinks like this, because she clearly has tons of options.
I was under the impression she was in college. High school is the place to be stupid
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She started the group at a public high school.
Well apparently I'm guilty of not reading. I'll soon be a human cent iPad. That actually changes my opinion on it. Hey, high school, who gives a rip
Well apparently I'm guilty of not reading.
You're absolutely the first person to have ever made that mistake...
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She started the group at a public high school.
Definitely no Religious groups allowed there then. Fuck off, Easter. Fuck off, Christmas.
Definitely no Religious groups allowed there then. Fuck off, Easter. Fuck off, Christmas.
Students are allowed to have religious groups at public schools. The school just can't give preference to one over the other.
ie. there's nothing wrong with a public school recognizing an Islamic student org or a Catholic student org. The same should be expected for a Wiccan group, a Roman Pantheon group, or a group of non-theists. If the school takes it a step further, such as letting one of these groups lead a prayer at graduation, that's where the issue of preference arises.
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