NO MORE QUARTER BACKS!

Babernakle

Look what happened to aj green, and megaton teams double him unless you have a great cb like Hayden. And we have a chance to get the top two prospects at there positions. If the qb talent was better then ok take one, but Johnny, bortols, Carr,and bridgewater, come on. In two years will any of them start?

DieHardBrownsFan

Choosing a QB any year is always a gamble. A gamble you have to take if you want to win. There are never any guarantees.

Babernakle

Look at the pats when they got great. Drew got hurt and was on the decline there was great talent there on both sides of the ball and Brady happened. Look this shit of a qb changing everything is bullshit. Take andrew luck yes he's awesome and the best qb to come out since elway, but there not going anywhere because the rest of the team is ok not great. Now Russell Wilson goes to the sea chickens and is not asked to do much just don't turn the ball over and look what happend. Bad ass d, then great play makers, then you have a winner

BadNewsBrowns

The past 5 drafts or so there's been guys taken past the 1st round that have been just as good if not better than some of the QB's taken in the 1st.

Wilson,Foles,Kaepernick,Dalton vs Tannehill,Weeden,Ponder,Gabbert

I guess finding and developing those guys is definitely easier said than done, but with this draft being deep in 2nd tier QB talent I'd say there's a pretty good chance a later round QB from this draft will be more successful than at least one of the top 3 guys if not all 3.

Bob806

To all you QB gurus, what about Jordan Lynch? How did he rate at the combine? I know he's big & strong, that's about all I know.

I'm not talking about drafting him at 4, 26 or 35 fyi, but how about later on, like 5th round?

dawgpounded

Anybody but Manziel!!!!

Westside Steve

Isn't Lynch 6'0" ?

How about that big Ivy League kid?

WSS

Westside Steve

Meaning Jeff Matthews from Cornell that Diggy profiled.

( If indeed Cornell is in the Ivy League...)

WSS

Zombo

@londonbrown said:
Haven't we already been building the team with talent? There are six pro bowlers there in a 4-12 team after all

Yes. We need Consistency, Continuity and a Quarterback.

Not saying Hoyer isn't the guy, but banking on him isn't a real solid plan.

A team with 13 draft picks and a journeyman QB with 4 starts under his belt absolutely needs to address the position in the draft. Absolutely.

Zombo

Thaak

If we can get Garrappalo (sp?) with our 2nd or even 3rd rounders, I say we take CJ Moseley and Sammy Watkins with 26 and 4 respectively.

gftChris

@thaak said:
If we can get Garrappalo (sp?) with our 2nd or even 3rd rounders, I say we take CJ Moseley and Sammy Watkins with 26 and 4 respectively.

except the draft goes the other way round.

jeffinwv

Zombo said:

Yes. We need Consistency, Continuity and a Quarterback.

Not saying Hoyer isn't the guy, but banking on him isn't a real solid plan.

A team with 13 draft picks and a journeyman QB with 4 starts under his belt absolutely needs to address the position in the draft. Absolutely.

Zombo

I think Zumbo gots it right. we need to draft a QB for sure the debate amongts most of is which one. I wanna franchise QB, and most say JF has the most upside, so that is a part of why I like him. You don't wanna draft the guy with the least upside do you?

the three QBs are the three we got,they all three coulod bust,there could be one gem in the three,idk.

no one knows

Flyin J

@walterwhite said:
It's Bridgewater, Bortles, Manziel, or bust.

Id throw Carr and Garropollo in there as well, not saying I want em, but theres a possibility.

Babernakle

Here's the other thing what bout trading the 2nd round pick for Kurt cousins or mallet.

gftChris

@babernakle said:
Here's the other thing what bout trading the 2nd round pick for Kurt cousins or mallet.

Just...no. Stop it now.

The Gipper

@westside-steve said:

Meaning Jeff Matthews from Cornell that Diggy profiled.

( If indeed Cornell is in the Ivy League...)

WSS

Yes, it is. Can you name all 8 Ivy League schools?

LondonBrown

I change my mind daily if not more often on this subject so I don't envy Farmer!

cuwoohio

I'm in that same boat LondonBrown and I spend way too much time thinking about. It always comes back to QB for me, but it's certainly not a given at the 4th pick. The one thing I don't want to happen is taking another 1 receiver at 4 when we can get a 2 much lower.

hoorta

@mike-h said:

Just stop.

I give zero fucks what you "see" lol. You're a broken record.

While you spew the same rhetoric, I watch film and talk to my friend who scouts. Good convos, about things that actually matter.

Please continue. Tell me how Mariota is a sure thing, and why, without googling s scouting report to make yourself sound like you know what you're taking about. I'll hold my breath.

Why don't you just stop smartass? Go over to Bar-king Hard to share some of your vast football acumen, where I'm sure it would be more appreciated than here.

DieHardBrownsFan

NFP Mock Draft 1.0

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By: Greg Gabriel and Eric Galko

As many of you know, I am not a lover of Mock Drafts, especially this early in the Draft season because we just don’t have enough information. We are still over two weeks away from the start of free agency, and most, if not all, clubs' draft plans center around what happens to their team with regards to veteran gains and losses. Once we get through the first few weeks of free agency, we will have a better idea of what each club's needs are going into the Draft.

That being said, Eric Galko of Optimum Scouting and myself have put together our post-Combine Mock. Eric made the selections for all the teams drafting in an odd numbered slot, and I did the same with the even numbered picks. We took needs into consideration, but tried to select the best player available with each pick. Neither of us were aware of the other's picks ahead of time. There were plenty of players I was looking to select for my teams that Eric selected with his picks. This may have have led to some out-of-the-box picks on both our parts.

Both Eric and I hope you enjoy our Mock 1.0 and we will do another, once we get a handle on free agency. Our next mock will also include some comments as to why each pick was made.

1 – Houston – Jadeveon Clowney – DE – South Carolina

2 – St. Louis – Greg Robinson – OT – Auburn

3 – Jacksonville – Teddy Twatwater – QB – Louisville

4 – Cleveland – Johnny Manziel – QB – Texas A&M

5 – Oakland – Sammy Watkins – WR – Clemson

6 – Atlanta – Khalil Mack – OLB – Buffalo

7 – Tampa Bay – Jake Matthews – OT – Texas A&M

8 – Minnesota – Justin Gilbert – DC – Oklahoma State

9 – Buffalo – Anthony Barr – OLB – UCLA

10 – Detroit – Taylor Lewan – OT – Michigan

11 – Tennessee – Ha Ha Clinton-Dix – DS – Alabama

12 – Giants – Eric Ebron – TE – North Carolina