Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Meanwhile, Shaun King's mock draft has Manziel being drafted....
after the first round !
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/shaun-king-s-2014-nfl-mock-draft-182959168.html
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Meanwhile, Shaun King's mock draft has Manziel being drafted....
after the first round !
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/shaun-king-s-2014-nfl-mock-draft-182959168.html
Meanwhile, Shaun King's mock draft has Manziel being drafted....
after the first round !
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/shaun-king-s-2014-nfl-mock-draft-182959168.html
Johnny's cult will kill themselves and hope for the comet if he makes it out of the first.
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Nobody but a dumbass would argue the fact rg3 was a better college qb than Johnny. He was bigger stonger fast, better thrower. At that time I was against bringing rg3 to Cleveland. In college he was fast than 95% of the d on the field, in the nfl it's maybe 30%. Johnny is is slower, smaller, weaker, and less arm strength. So what would make anyone think bring Johnny to Cleveland would be smart. Kyle has seen this before and I would imagine is telling everyone this is a bad ideal. Running qbs won't and don't last. Johnny is run first. Not to mention to pressure it puts on a front line. And finally to put it frankly if they do take Johnny football I'm out fuck the browns I hope they move again, because that shows me they have no interest in winning only filling a few seats. But I think there smarter than that. Mel kipper can eat a dick too.
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Why is Cleveland always looking for a qb. Let's load the team with talent so a cripple could play the position. Pass on the qb this year let hoyer do the job and if it's a worry pick up a free agent.
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Chill out buddy, Take a valium and a couple shots of Johnny Walker. They're not going to take any of the top three quarterbacks. Just my gut feeling.
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JF all the way.
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Why is Cleveland always looking for a qb. Let's load the team with talent so a cripple could play the position. Pass on the qb this year let hoyer do the job and if it's a worry pick up a free agent.
No.Why is Cleveland always looking for a qb. Let's load the team with talent so a cripple could play the position. Pass on the qb this year let hoyer do the job and if it's a worry pick up a free agent.
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your probably right...they'll take a nose tackle or guard...then use three different QBs, in route to a 6-10 season and the 8th pick next year.
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I don't think anyone including Farmer know.
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they showed an actual preseason draft and FA behind the scenes of the cowboys one night on NFL network.
they didn't have anything settled in stone until 7 days of the draft. and then as soon as you go into the war room and think you know how it's gonna go, someone in front of you does some stupid shit and then you wait for a phone call or give the intern the card.
tick tock.......tick tock........
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@walterwhite said:
I can't wait until Manziel is a Cleveland Brown
Even if that is when the Raiders cut him after a poor four year run and he comes over to hold a clipboard and run the scout team?
Not sure why some folks are so convinced on this guy ... scouts seem to have a lot of questions.
Zombo
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@walterwhite said:
I can't wait until Manziel is a Cleveland Brown
Even if that is when the Raiders cut him after a poor four year run and he comes over to hold a clipboard and run the scout team?
Not sure why some folks are so convinced on this guy ... scouts seem to have a lot of questions.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Even if that is when the Raiders cut him after a poor four year run and he comes over to hold a clipboard and run the scout team?
Not sure why some folks are so convinced on this guy ... scouts seem to have a lot of questions.
Zombo
Not sure why everyone else is convinced he's a bust.
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Nobody but a dumbass would argue the fact rg3 was a better college qb than Johnny. He was bigger stonger fast, better thrower. At that time I was against bringing rg3 to Cleveland. In college he was fast than 95% of the d on the field, in the nfl it's maybe 30%. Johnny is is slower, smaller, weaker, and less arm strength. So what would make anyone think bring Johnny to Cleveland would be smart. Kyle has seen this before and I would imagine is telling everyone this is a bad ideal. Running qbs won't and don't last. Johnny is run first. Not to mention to pressure it puts on a front line. And finally to put it frankly if they do take Johnny football I'm out fuck the browns I hope they move again, because that shows me they have no interest in winning only filling a few seats. But I think there smarter than that. Mel kipper can eat a dick too.
Nobody but a dumbass would argue the fact rg3 was a better college qb than Johnny. He was bigger stonger fast, better thrower. At that time I was against bringing rg3 to Cleveland. In college he was fast than 95% of the d on the field, in the nfl it's maybe 30%. Johnny is is slower, smaller, weaker, and less arm strength. So what would make anyone think bring Johnny to Cleveland would be smart. Kyle has seen this before and I would imagine is telling everyone this is a bad ideal. Running qbs won't and don't last. Johnny is run first. Not to mention to pressure it puts on a front line. And finally to put it frankly if they do take Johnny football I'm out fuck the browns I hope they move again, because that shows me they have no interest in winning only filling a few seats. But I think there smarter than that. Mel kipper can eat a dick too.
JF reads the field ten times better coming out of college
1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico -
Zombo said:
Even if that is when the Raiders cut him after a poor four year run and he comes over to hold a clipboard and run the scout team?
Not sure why some folks are so convinced on this guy ... scouts seem to have a lot of questions.
Zombo
Not sure why everyone else is convinced he's a bust.
Not sure why everyone else is convinced he's a bust.
There seems to be a ton of us that think he's a good player but not at #4.
How many guys think he is a bust on this board ... one?
Zombo
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If I had to make a 50-50 bet on JF... boom or bust... I'd bet bust. He doesn't look anything like what I think of when I think "NFL QB." I only hope he is not a bust if we draft him, but there is NO WAY if it's me drafting at #4 that I pick this guy. Give me Watkins, Bridgewater, or Bortles, or trade down and get more picks in the 2nd or maybe a 1st next year if we're lucky, because the value in this draft is in its depth, not the top 4
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Nobody but a dumbass would argue the fact rg3 was a better college qb than Johnny. He was bigger stonger fast, better thrower. At that time I was against bringing rg3 to Cleveland. In college he was fast than 95% of the d on the field, in the nfl it's maybe 30%. Johnny is is slower, smaller, weaker, and less arm strength. So what would make anyone think bring Johnny to Cleveland would be smart. Kyle has seen this before and I would imagine is telling everyone this is a bad ideal. Running qbs won't and don't last. Johnny is run first. Not to mention to pressure it puts on a front line. And finally to put it frankly if they do take Johnny football I'm out fuck the browns I hope they move again, because that shows me they have no interest in winning only filling a few seats. But I think there smarter than that. Mel kipper can eat a dick too.
JF reads the field ten times better coming out of college
JF reads the field ten times better coming out of college
Sure, that's why he takes of running with receivers wide open.
And when he farts, it knocks defensive ends off their feet.
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JF reads the field ten times better coming out of college
Sure, that's why he takes of running with receivers wide open.
And when he farts, it knocks defensive ends off their feet.
Sure, that's why he takes of running with receivers wide open.
And when he farts, it knocks defensive ends off their feet.
You seen that once in a highlight play on sportscenter and now it's embedded in your brain on playback. Go watch a full game
1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico -
Not sure why everyone else is convinced he's a bust.
There seems to be a ton of us that think he's a good player but not at #4.
How many guys think he is a bust on this board ... one?
Zombo
Zombo said:
There seems to be a ton of us that think he's a good player but not at #4.
How many guys think he is a bust on this board ... one?
Zombo
Judging from the "never in a million years", "fuck no", and "are you regarded"'s, if say there's upwards of five people who claim he's a bust.
I don't understand this "he's good, but not at [insert draft position]". You take the player who you believe can help your team the most, regardless of draft position. If that's JF, then so be it. If it's Mack, then so be it. If it's Watkins, then so be it.
Personally, I'm in the camp that a QB, even of mild talent, can improve a team much more than any other positional player. Not that I necessarily believe that person to be Manziel.
I can see wanting to get the most value for your pick in terms of trading back but if you can't get a trade, then nut up and take the guy anyway, even if he's considered a reach.
I believe this about any pick in the draft, not just the first round picks. There's no such thing as a reach if you believe that guy to be a gamechanger. If he turns out to suck, blame your scouting department because they fucked up.
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