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Obama Surgeon General Pick Wants Doctors to Find out if Patients Own Guns - and Put Info into Obamacare Database

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  • ballpeen ballpeenB Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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    This is getting gross, if true.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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    • gftChris gftChrisG
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      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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      I wouldn't particularly care if the surgeon general is pro-gun or anti-gun in terms of his ability to do his job. I also wouldn't hugely care if he were to be politically active outside of the sphere of his job. But the two aspects should remain separate.

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      • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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        That's the left - "global warming" is an excuse to control/tax/fine/license everything that exists,

        and persecute things and the people that have them, that the left doesn't like..

        And "gov health care" is another one of those excuses - it can be used to politically go after

        anything that exists, especially things they don't like.....

        That's why this corrupt wh has a hc giant law that doesn't get everybody

        hc, and why millions losing their hc doesn't matter either.

        It is all about control, and money, and political dominance over every part of our country

        that isn't on the left.

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          Yep

          and the right is pure and innocent, only looking out for the public's best interest

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              what amendment is the right trying to destroy, to get at

              liberals?

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              • Babernakle B
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                B Babernakle wrote on last edited by
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                Well the stupidity of barracks administration is paramount, do to his wonderful failure of healthcare we won't have to worry about it because doctors are going to get hard to find. There quitting there professions in alarming rates.

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                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                  I'm still waiting to find out how Cysko fared with Obamaocare.

                  Lower rate? Same coverage? Keeping own doctor? Easy to apply (lol) ?

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                    I'm still waiting to find out how Cysko fared with Obamaocare.

                    Lower rate? Same coverage? Keeping own doctor? Easy to apply (lol) ?

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                    T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                    @calfoxwc said:

                    I'm still waiting to find out how Cysko fared with Obamaocare.

                    Lower rate? Same coverage? Keeping own doctor? Easy to apply (lol) ?

                    To be perfectly honest I'm fine with Obama care. All our doctors take it, I pay less than half of what I was paying privately. If you're still buying the horror stories you're just following party lines. I get it, you hate Obama, but I'm doing fine with it.

                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      That's great, seriously. There are horror stories, and they are true,

                      but there are also some folks that will get a nice benefit.

                      But the money isn't there to support it in the long run, I think.

                      If it works for you, that's a great thing for your family. Our deductable

                      doubled because of new Obamaocare requirements. Not good.

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                        Yep

                        and the right is pure and innocent, only looking out for the public's best interest

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                        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        @mld-woody said:

                        Yep

                        and the right is pure and innocent, only looking out for the public's best interest

                        Boy, they are succeeding in turning the kids in school into willing sheep. Feel sorry for you all. Give away your freedoms willingly and without thinking.

                        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                          @mld-woody said:

                          Yep

                          and the right is pure and innocent, only looking out for the public's best interest

                          Boy, they are succeeding in turning the kids in school into willing sheep. Feel sorry for you all. Give away your freedoms willingly and without thinking.

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          @diehardbrownsfan said:

                          Boy, they are succeeding in turning the kids in school into willing sheep. Feel sorry for you all. Give away your freedoms willingly and without thinking.

                          no, no, you are mistaken. I am not religious

                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                            Obviously quite dense also.

                            "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                              That's great, seriously. There are horror stories, and they are true,

                              but there are also some folks that will get a nice benefit.

                              But the money isn't there to support it in the long run, I think.

                              If it works for you, that's a great thing for your family. Our deductable

                              doubled because of new Obamaocare requirements. Not good.

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @calfoxwc said:

                              That's great, seriously. There are horror stories, and they are true,

                              but there are also some folks that will get a nice benefit.

                              Haven't a lot of those "horror stories" been debunked?

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                B Babernakle wrote on last edited by
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                                We I know one thing it sucks. I can't qualify for it first off and it made my deductible go up from 500 to 2500 and it doubled my monthly rate. And what happens when there is no more private insurance and the system collapses? And it will. Personally if they wanted to fix healthcare they would let it run like car insurance. You could personalize your plans and get discounts for bring and staying healthy. And since they have this unholy war on smoking that would curb it.

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                                  B Babernakle wrote on last edited by
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                                  And yes and no. From which side your getting the information from the left is going to put out only good stuff and the right only the bad. Thing is just as many Americans are going to be without healthcare. And many won't get if because the government is saying they have to. I don't know about you guy but I want to see the guy that goes into huge hills of West Virginia and tells them hillbillies they have to get it hahahahahah

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                                    T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                    That guy would mostly be the us postal service

                                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                      G Gidget wrote on last edited by
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                                      I've been in the healthcare business for 20 years, and these are definitely not horror stories. Yes, IF you fall within the 100-400%, of the poverty level (especially the low end), and are eligible for a subsidy, your premiums will be low and affordable. If you have been paying high premiums due to past health conditions, yes, you will probably see a decrease in your premium, but your plan will change also. If you are younger, say between 25-40, your premiums won't be too bad.

                                      IF on the other hand you are fairly healthy and over the age of 45, you will see significant increases in your premium, and significant decreases in your coverage. Those small group employers, with under 50 employees, in the state of Ohio are seeing significant increases in their renewals this year. I have had increases anywhere from 35-65% already, again with significant decreases in coverage from their current plan. So not only are they getting the increases in premium, they have to take away the good coverage they now offer their employees to continue to offer coverage that they may or may not be able to afford. I have seen employees decide to just not offer coverage any longer and the employees are left to get individual coverage. I am very concerned, and anxious at the same time, to see how this year, and next year (for those that were able "to keep their current coverage") shakes out, and I don't think it will be pretty. Especially for the small employer. It will be a struggle.

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                                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                        Nice to have you drop in, Gidget.

                                        Wait for it....woody is going to say you're debunked or something.....

                                        It's been said that the real reason this obamaocare is so convoluted,

                                        and interfering with the hc industry... is because they actually want it

                                        to fail, the obamaocare and the hc biz....

                                        because they really want a single payer system.

                                        And I have friends who lost their health insurance, and jobs lost.

                                        It's going to get uglier before it becomes even worse.....

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                                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                          Just one question to start - you get aid if you're in the 100% - 400% range of poverty? Fine...what about those under 100% annual income of poverty?

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