Pro days reaction

Nuckin Futz

@londonbrown said:

Teddy live

http://www.jaguars.com/live/

Anybody see Petine/Farmer on the sidelines. Looked like a few Browns hats but don't know who they were.

LondonBrown

Apparently it's common to lose weight between combine and pro day to get quicker?

Anyway, all the twitter talk from Mayock etc is he stunk the place up, "average at best"

DieHardBrownsFan

Teddy Twatwater shows questionable accuracy for 29 teams at Pro Day

By Jeff Reynolds | NFLDraftScout.com

March 17, 2014 9:56 am ET

Passing on Teddy Twatwater could be a perilous decision for franchises with question marks at the quarterback position.

Poised and polished, accurate and articulate, Bridgewater comes with a choir boy image and history of success and production that in years past left scouts rushing to anoint similar prospects the next big thing. In short, he is the total package. Former coach Charlie Strong said he had the work ethic and professional approach of a coach, sometimes better, and there is no situation for which he isn't prepared.

Why the pause with Bridgewater?

Starting with the Houston Texans at No. 1, down to the Jaguars (third overall), Browns (fourth) and Raiders (fifth), Bridgewater should be in play. He is efficient with enough arm talent to manage any offensive scheme. Sure, it'd be a challenge to ask him to play Peyton Manning under playoff pressure at age 21, but Bridgewater has a strong case in the ongoing front office debate over which of the 2014 quarterback prospects is the best.

The biggest knock on Bridgewater isn't that he's little. It's that he's too light. Not enough Boombozz Pizza, apparently.

The last quarterback prospect to overcome the anchor of size concerns -- Super Bowl-winning second-year starter Russell Wilson -- is 5-11, 204. Bridgewater is 6-2, weighed 208 at Monday's workout. That raised eyebrows, if only because Bridgewater was 214 at the combine. He said he'd be 220-225 by the time he reports to training camp. He said he played at 222 as a sophomore before major jaw surgery led to drastic weight loss.

That frame would make him the near-body type double of a too-skinny prospect from Cal in 2005. Aaron Rodgers (6-2, 223 at his pro day) has done just fine, thanks. Robert Griffin III also measured 6-2, 223 before he was drafted second overall in 2012.

What limitations are forecast for a player perceived to have less-than-ideal bulk on his frame? Primarily, the worry is injuries. And Bridgewater's health record isn't clean. There are teams with serious concerns about his wrist -- he played through a wrist fracture at Louisville -- and the narrow lower body for his base. Can an underdeveloped lower half survive a season that, from training camp through the postseason is twice as long and demanding as the college football calendar?

There are scouts who believe he's not a top-five pick, according to reports.

The boots on the ground at Louisville Monday indicate the interest backs up NFLDraftScout.com intel and evaluation that Bridgewater is the top of the class. Six NFL head coaches were on hand, including large contingencies for the Raiders and Jaguars, who sent head coach Gus Bradley, GM Dave Caldwell and offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch.

We'll venture a guess that the full tribe wasn't sent because Jacksonville is eyeing a trade out of the top five.

Raiders head coach Dennis Allen, Jets general manager John Idzik, Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer and offensive coordinator Norv Turner, Titans head coach Ken Whisenhunt, Eagles head coach Chip Kelly, Texans head coach Bill O'Brien and a thick crowd witnessed his 4.78 40-yard time and awaiting his mid-morning throwing session.

The workout, practiced, rehearsed and mastered in the comfort of his home indoor practice facility, won't sway teams with interest. If teams give Bridgewater's on-film resume a look and sit down with him for an hour, we're betting they, too, will buy in.

His ball was loose at times and wobbled into the hands of his receivers but he also showed touch in the red-zone portion of the workout, flashed deep accuracy that also lacked great timing on occasion and hit his receivers in stride while on the move in Monday's session. Overall, his footwork was not great and his timing was average to poor on some throws.

He's is not a perfect or a complete product. And of course, rookie success isn't a sure thing with Bridgewater -- Andrew Luck had 18 interceptions and nine fumbles in his first season, but the Colts quarterback is widely hailed as the best quarterback to enter the league in more than a decade.

The risk is worth the ultimate potential reward for the Texans, Jaguars, Browns and Raiders.

Pittsburgh, Washington and Miami were the only teams not represented Monday at Louisville's pro day. The Minnesota Vikings, who own the eighth overall pick, met with him Sunday and as GM Rick Spielman said last month, the franchise must "keep spinning the wheel" until it hits on a young franchise-caliber quarterback.

Several teams have eyes for safety Calvin Pryor who is one of two first-round locks (Alabama's Ha Ha Clinton-Dix is the other) in NFLDraftScout.com's rankings. Pryor met with 27 teams at the Scouting Combine for formal interviews and visited with the Eagles and Jets, who had a presence Monday, privately.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/n...lay-for-scouts

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cambridgeho

Good, Real Good. The most "NFL" ready QB has an average at best Pro Day. He also didnt throw at the combine. So things are starting to take shape that he is not the QB we all thought he was. With the Very lean frame and smaller hands. I just dont see him being our guy. JF may get wrecked by running around, but Teddy is going to get murdered standing there.

Browns149

The guys on NFL live said he is NOT a top of the draft QB.

TopDawg31

@nuckin-futz said:
Anybody see Petine/Farmer on the sidelines. Looked like a few Browns hats but don't know who they were.

I read this morning that there were no representitives from the Browns present at TB's pro day.

John.R.Brown1968

@topdawg31 said:
I read this morning that there were no representitives from the Browns present at TB's pro day.

Article up above said Pittsburgh, Washington, and Miami were the only three teams to not attend his pro day.

slowburn

Game film much more important than any pro day dog and pony show.

If Brown's weren't there maybe they saw too many negatives reviewing Teddy's game footage or they have already made their mind up whether he is a go or not

JAFBF

@john.r.brown1968 said:
Article up above said Pittsburgh, Washington, and Miami were the only three teams to not attend his pro day.

Yeah, I saw the Browns had some Scouts there and they have the film as well to go over.

One odd note that came across is that TB threw without gloves on for this Pro Day demo - in all his games he's always thrown with gloves on.

That'll definitely change the feel for the Ball and could have an impact on his throwing - take it for what it's worth.

TopDawg31

@john.r.brown1968 said:
Article up above said Pittsburgh, Washington, and Miami were the only three teams to not attend his pro day.

It was early when I read it, believe it was on NFL Mobile where I read it

cuwoohio

@browns149 said:
The guys on NFL live said he is NOT a top of the draft QB.

I'm pretty sure he's going to be a top of the draft qb regardless of what analysts say. It's the way of the NFL now. (assuming top of the draft means something like the first 6 or 7 picks. )

bbedward

Just goes to show how fast opinions can change. Not too long ago it was "tank for teddy"

JAFBF

@bbedward said:
Just goes to show how fast opinions can change. Not too long ago it was "tank for teddy"

Yeah, it wasn't too long ago that everyone was saying this was going to be a great Draft for QB's also . . .

slowburn

I saw the NFL Live coverage on Ted. The kid is still working on the fundamentals to improve an already great set of skills. Namely, using more leg strength to improve accuracy and verticality. The talking heads saw him best as a system quarterback and showed some unflattering game reps from his Ville games. Im betting it took awhile to find major flaws with teddys game in the film they reviewed. But I'm not sold on his durability so I'd prolly take a pass.

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Canton Mike

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Yep!

I have seen enough to know that I'm trusting Farmer & Pettine. with whomever they pick. They surely know a WHOLE lot more than I, & from what they've done so far, more than ANYBODY who's been in Cleveland in a VERY long time.

Mike

D Bone

"Cleveland Browns' Mike Pettine, Kyle Shanahan and QB coach Dowell Loggains all skipped Teddy Twatwater's Pro Day"

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/03/cleveland_browns_mike_pettine_5.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Canton Mike

@d-bone said:

"Cleveland Browns' Mike Pettine, Kyle Shanahan and QB coach Dowell Loggains all skipped Teddy Twatwater's Pro Day"

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/03/cleveland_browns_mike_pettine_5.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

"All in" or "all out"....Looks like it's one or the other. We'll see.

Mike

cambridgeho

Could be the old we will act like we dont care, and then they draft ya. Dont want other teams jumping them for a QB.

John.R.Brown1968

@walterwhite said:

and that same exact crowd wants to hold out for Mariota and Winston...

Then you'll be doing the same thing this time next year "hold out for the 2016" guy.

Rinse, Wash, Repeat.

I was on board for Mariotta this year. And I'm on board for next year. I like his physical skill set, regardless of system. (I'm by no means a guru in terms of football, let alone quarterbacks).