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"Cleveland Browns' Mike Pettine, Kyle Shanahan and QB coach Dowell Loggains all skipped Teddy Twatwater's Pro Day"
"Cleveland Browns' Mike Pettine, Kyle Shanahan and QB coach Dowell Loggains all skipped Teddy Twatwater's Pro Day"
"All in" or "all out"....Looks like it's one or the other. We'll see.
Mike
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Could be the old we will act like we dont care, and then they draft ya. Dont want other teams jumping them for a QB.
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@walterwhite said:
and that same exact crowd wants to hold out for Mariota and Winston...
Then you'll be doing the same thing this time next year "hold out for the 2016" guy.
Rinse, Wash, Repeat.
I was on board for Mariotta this year. And I'm on board for next year. I like his physical skill set, regardless of system. (I'm by no means a guru in terms of football, let alone quarterbacks).
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"Cleveland Browns' Mike Pettine, Kyle Shanahan and QB coach Dowell Loggains all skipped Teddy Twatwater's Pro Day"
"All in" or "all out"....Looks like it's one or the other. We'll see.
Mike
"All in" or "all out"....Looks like it's one or the other. We'll see.
Mike
I would imagine they'll have him up for a personal session.
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@mike-h said:
I have a serious problem in waiting till "next year" to make a move. Last year, people said the same thing about this class. Mariota has plenty of question marks, too. He's far from polished.
If the Browns are in position to draft a Top QB prospect next season, Farmer failed. Everyone seems OK with that when talking about the '15 draft.
Understand, and agree to a point. And I do think Mariotta is a system QB, but also not one who seems to have questionable size, decision making, or live by the busted play. Don't get me wrong, I like JF. Love his intangibles, leadership, never say die attitude. I just don't like him at 4.
As for Mariotta next year? I'm not saying tank. I'm not saying sell the farm. But would I give up say a 2016 1st rounder to move up? Yeah. But who knows. Again. I'm not a film junkie. I like his size better. I like his physical skill set better. I like his home run ability, even more than RG3. There is something about the way he plays the game, that I like watching ... In spite of their uniforms.
I don't like any of the quarterbacks for the top half of the first round. That's just me.
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And for this year, I like the idea of Murray from Georgia in the mid to late rounds.
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@mike-h said:
I have a serious problem in waiting till "next year" to make a move. Last year, people said the same thing about this class. Mariota has plenty of question marks, too. He's far from polished.
If the Browns are in position to draft a Top QB prospect next season, Farmer failed. Everyone seems OK with that when talking about the '15 draft.
Although Buddy Christ seems like he approves, I do not, sirs.
I'm not sure on Mariota, when I've seen him his WR's are so open it's absurd - that tells me there's a bit of extra hype on him too.
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@mike-h said:
I have a serious problem in waiting till "next year" to make a move. Last year, people said the same thing about this class. Mariota has plenty of question marks, too. He's far from polished.
If the Browns are in position to draft a Top QB prospect next season, Farmer failed. Everyone seems OK with that when talking about the '15 draft.
Although Buddy Christ seems like he approves, I do not, sirs.
I'm not sure on Mariota, when I've seen him his WR's are so open it's absurd - that tells me there's a bit of extra hype on him too.
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No higher ups were T Bridgewater's workout. Not Pettine, Farmer or Loggains.
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@mike-h said:
I have a serious problem in waiting till "next year" to make a move. Last year, people said the same thing about this class. Mariota has plenty of question marks, too. He's far from polished.
If the Browns are in position to draft a Top QB prospect next season, Farmer failed. Everyone seems OK with that when talking about the '15 draft.
Although Buddy Christ seems like he approves, I do not, sirs.
I agree about mariota. Has significant questions about him like scheme and play style.
I'm a garrapolo fan though, I think we're under rating his arm strength.
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@mike-h said:
Farmer was there. Mary Kay mis-reported.
Surprise, surprise.
How does she still have a job?
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What I know for sure about the Browns' QB situation is, Pettine, Shanahan and Farmer have a plan. What that plan is may not become known even after the draft. We'll probably know more around the OTA time but it is entirely possible we won't know before we know the 53 that makes the cut. Based on how much of that plan Pettine has told us so far, Hoyer will be the Brown's first #1 in the Pettine/Shanahan/Farmer regime. That tells me two things; Pettine believes Hoyer can cut it and Pettine doesn't want the crazy that comes along with 'who is going to be the Browns' QB' confusion.
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And for this year, I like the idea of Murray from Georgia in the mid to late rounds.
And for this year, I like the idea of Murray from Georgia in the mid to late rounds.
I like Murray, another option in the latter rounds is Zach Mettenberger. Especially as projects, bonus is that the Browns will get em cheap.
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Considering that behind Andrew Luck the best QBs of the 2012 draft were those taken in the 2d/3rd rounds, maybe this is the theory adopted by the Browns. Pick up one of the QBs that most do not believe are the top echelon (Manziel/Bridgewater/Bortles) and do well in the 2d/3rd round
(2012: Luck/RGIII/Tannehill/Weeden were the 1st rounders. Foles and Wilson 2d/3rd)
Who would be the Foles/Wilson of this draft?
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Considering that behind Andrew Luck the best QBs of the 2012 draft were those taken in the 2d/3rd rounds, maybe this is the theory adopted by the Browns. Pick up one of the QBs that most do not believe are the top echelon (Manziel/Bridgewater/Bortles) and do well in the 2d/3rd round
(2012: Luck/RGIII/Tannehill/Weeden were the 1st rounders. Foles and Wilson 2d/3rd)
Who would be the Foles/Wilson of this draft?
That draft won't happen again for another 100 years. Pick your favorite QB and go get him Farmer.Considering that behind Andrew Luck the best QBs of the 2012 draft were the apparent best QBs of that draft were those taken in the 2d/3rd rounds, maybe this is the theory adopted by the Browns. Pick up one of the QBs that most do not believe are the top echelon (Manziel/Bridgewater/Bortles) and do well in the 2d/3rd round
(2012: Luck/RGIII/Tannehill/Weeden were the 1st rounders. Foles and Wilson 2d/3rd)
Who would be the Foles/Wilson of this draft?
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