Desean Jackson
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once again; i still have no idea how common that is.
Regardless of how common it is , once known it is something I would avoid completely. Most teams when they find deep ongoing ties and relationships like apparently exist with Desean would cut ties just like the Eagles have. The Hernandez thing really brings that to the forefront for teams now.
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The people he associates with (has recent pictures, part of his record label) shot and killed a 14 year old rival gang member a few years ago. Desean himself has never been confirmed as being in the gang, but all the evidence points to it.
He had a picture with the shooter after he was acquitted while he had his prison shirt on. And he posts pictures with the crips sign and uses it on the field.
I like his talent, but he only cares about the money and seems to be a bad presence.
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The people he associates with (has recent pictures, part of his record label) shot and killed a 14 year old rival gang member a few years ago. Desean himself has never been confirmed as being in the gang, but all the evidence points to it.
He had a picture with the shooter after he was acquitted while he had his prison shirt on. And he posts pictures with the crips sign and uses it on the field.
I like his talent, but he only cares about the money and seems to be a bad presence.
The people he associates with (has recent pictures, part of his record label) shot and killed a 14 year old rival gang member a few years ago. Desean himself has never been confirmed as being in the gang, but all the evidence points to it.
He had a picture with the shooter after he was acquitted while he had his prison shirt on. And he posts pictures with the crips sign and uses it on the field.
I like his talent, but he only cares about the money and seems to be a bad presence.
He is a POS, and to think these guys make millions to play a game. Just to live a gangsta life. Dont matter though, some team will pick him up.
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The people he associates with (has recent pictures, part of his record label) shot and killed a 14 year old rival gang member a few years ago. Desean himself has never been confirmed as being in the gang, but all the evidence points to it.
He had a picture with the shooter after he was acquitted while he had his prison shirt on. And he posts pictures with the crips sign and uses it on the field.
I like his talent, but he only cares about the money and seems to be a bad presence.
He is a POS, and to think these guys make millions to play a game. Just to live a gangsta life. Dont matter though, some team will pick him up.
Without a doubt. Just hope it's not our dumbassesHe is a POS, and to think these guys make millions to play a game. Just to live a gangsta life. Dont matter though, some team will pick him up.
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The thing is: DeSean hasn't changed. He hasn't done anything different than he was doing two,three,four years ago.
The Eagles changed. Chip Kelly doesn't want a part of that, which is completely fine. But don't make it out like DeSean is ramping up his behavior and is out busting rival members at night.
The guy knows people that are in a gang. So do most of you and you know it. Most of you are from or live in Ohio/Western PA. You telling me you don't know somebody in the family?
I, personally, wouldn't want him here if he's going to distract the team by demanding the ball or contract extensions. But that's me.
But here's a scenario:
Sign DJax. Draft Mack at #4. Draft Roby at #26. Draft Su'a-Filo in the second. Trade Sheard and both 2014 3rds for a 2015 1st. Trading Sheard, plus not resigning Rubin after 2015 would free up enough cap space to resign Haden, Cameron, the rest of the DL and keep DJax. Package the two 2015 1sts, move up to take Mariota or Hundley who will probably go in the top 3.
The only hole created will be the departure of Rubin, which can be filled in the second round (or later) in 2015.
Sheard and/or Rubin won't be with the team come this time next season. It's not the best news, but it is true. Hopefully we can get something for one of them.
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I'd sign D-Jax..he's never even gotten in real trouble.
The more weapons we have the better. He'd be our second best receiver, that's a good thought if I've ever had one.
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The thing is: DeSean hasn't changed. He hasn't done anything different than he was doing two,three,four years ago.
The Eagles changed. Chip Kelly doesn't want a part of that, which is completely fine. But don't make it out like DeSean is ramping up his behavior and is out busting rival members at night.
The guy knows people that are in a gang. So do most of you and you know it. Most of you are from or live in Ohio/Western PA. You telling me you don't know somebody in the family?
I, personally, wouldn't want him here if he's going to distract the team by demanding the ball or contract extensions. But that's me.
But here's a scenario:
Sign DJax. Draft Mack at #4. Draft Roby at #26. Draft Su'a-Filo in the second. Trade Sheard and both 2014 3rds for a 2015 1st. Trading Sheard, plus not resigning Rubin after 2015 would free up enough cap space to resign Haden, Cameron, the rest of the DL and keep DJax. Package the two 2015 1sts, move up to take Mariota or Hundley who will probably go in the top 3.
The only hole created will be the departure of Rubin, which can be filled in the second round (or later) in 2015.
Sheard and/or Rubin won't be with the team come this time next season. It's not the best news, but it is true. Hopefully we can get something for one of them.
The thing is: DeSean hasn't changed. He hasn't done anything different than he was doing two,three,four years ago.
The Eagles changed. Chip Kelly doesn't want a part of that, which is completely fine. But don't make it out like DeSean is ramping up his behavior and is out busting rival members at night.
The guy knows people that are in a gang. So do most of you and you know it. Most of you are from or live in Ohio/Western PA. You telling me you don't know somebody in the family?
I, personally, wouldn't want him here if he's going to distract the team by demanding the ball or contract extensions. But that's me.
But here's a scenario:
Sign DJax. Draft Mack at #4. Draft Roby at #26. Draft Su'a-Filo in the second. Trade Sheard and both 2014 3rds for a 2015 1st. Trading Sheard, plus not resigning Rubin after 2015 would free up enough cap space to resign Haden, Cameron, the rest of the DL and keep DJax. Package the two 2015 1sts, move up to take Mariota or Hundley who will probably go in the top 3.
The only hole created will be the departure of Rubin, which can be filled in the second round (or later) in 2015.
Sheard and/or Rubin won't be with the team come this time next season. It's not the best news, but it is true. Hopefully we can get something for one of them.
the guy is cancer- send him to Oakland or the Bengals.
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anybody nowadays that even shows up on the "MIGHT BE AFFILIATED' board needs no attention from the browns, even though cleveland (east) is a great backdrop for shows like the 'first 48'.
we could have the rock coach jackson hernandez, OJ, rice and carruth and call them the bad news browns and r. lewis (or l. taylor or michael irving) could be their manager buying them the best dope and women money can buy.
the AFCN/miami U gang.
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Latest reports are the Brownies are making a hard push for him ...
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/04/cleveland_browns_reportedly_go.html
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Latest reports are the Brownies are making a hard push for him ...
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/04/cleveland_browns_reportedly_go.html
Latest reports are the Brownies are making a hard push for him ...
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/04/cleveland_browns_reportedly_go.html
Probably a rumor started by his agent to get more money from Washington. I'd be surprised if he came to Cleveland...
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Latest reports are the Brownies are making a hard push for him ...
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/04/cleveland_browns_reportedly_go.html
Probably a rumor started by his agent to get more money from Washington. I'd be surprised if he came to Cleveland...
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Fox Sports just listed the browns are doing everything possible to bring him to the Browns, for those of you who don't want him for non FOOTBALL related reasons (Dumb) He would be a great piece along this line up who struggled offensively for years we need pickups like this.
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He would make us a lot better for sure. I thought it was just a play to get him more $ with the Redskins. May be real, we were after Revis also. Cant blame them for getting talent.
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I'm totally behind Farmer/Pettine & crew & trust their upgrades. I DON'T trust rumor & speculation, so I'll just take a wait & see attitude. When something happens, I'll know.
Mike
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yes he'd make us better and the need for a #2 WR in the draft will be gone and it would surely steer the FO at either a defensive pick or an OL.
i just don't believe (as TCPO posted) that you start ripping a team apart when they basically got here at the same time and are learning to play together in a good way. no way i would support getting rid of rubin or sheard. sheard was one of heckertt's best picks and looked great his rookie year. he fell off when we changed our defensive scheme for the umpteenth time. rubin has also earned his keep. just because we have a great DL why trade one of them away? unless of course you are going to draft clowney then you can afford to lose sheard. if it were me i'd get rid of kreuger who was nothing but dead weight last year and one of our worse FA signing in years.
also why pay a guy all those dollars when you are staring at 2 of the best WRs in the draft where you sit? rookie minimum vs. money grubbin gang member? (and NO i don't know anyone in a gang. sorry this ain't compton where i'm living).
to sign haden and cameron and blah blah is done every year in the NFL and if the browns can't figure out how to do it then this franchise is doomed.
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When Djac scores 2TDs in the home opener with a 60 yard+ in there, all these hell no people will jump to the train and LOVE him come game 2.
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I don't necessarily want us to blow up the team. I'm just saying that either Rubin or Sheard will be gone, and it will likely be Rubin. If we end up going with Mack in this draft, then it could be Sheard as well.
Here's what I think about DJax:
http://factoryofsadness.sportsblog.com/post/302125/should_the_browns_pursue_desean.html
I don't give a shit about DeSean's gang ties. They're the same gang ties he had when he entered the league. They're the same gang ties he had last year when he got 1,400 yards and 9 TD's. They're the same gang ties he had in 2009 when he got 1,200 yards and 9 TD's. Nobody was complaining then, it's only now that people seem to have a problem.
The guy is still a 3 time Pro Bowler. We don't have one of those.
And...he has less suspensions than both Gordon and Haden. Hm.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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