Mack stays with Browns
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@mike-h said:
You were expecting his agent to play nice and keep negotiating after the Browns turned down a similar deal he was seeking?
Jerry Maguire was a fictional character, those real life dudes are after their cash flow my man!
From a business standpoint, Macks agent played it perfectly. He probably leaked the Mack isn't interested in staying in Cleveland to gain steam with other teams. JAX bit, now he gets his deal with Browns.
Yeah, Jax was the ONLY team that bit on that "brilliant" agents' bullshit. Truth be known, his theatrics probably cost other suitors & cost his client (Mack) money in the long run. Sounds to me like he took about what the Browns had offered before & created some bad PR in the process. I don't think he played it perfectly at all.....I think he shit in his own drawers.
Mike
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Bottom line: Banner fucked up by not getting an extension done last year.
Farmer just got him locked up for two years, instead of the one year had we franchised him .
We are headed in the right direction with Farmer and Pettine, boys.
Z
Zombo said:
Bottom line: Banner fucked up by not getting an extension done last year.
Farmer just got him locked up for two years, instead of the one year had we franchised him .
We are headed in the right direction with Farmer and Pettine, boys.
Z
I agree. What a difference!! Farmer/Pettine as opposed to Banner/Lombardi.....WORLDS apart to the plus side.
Mike
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Ode to the Browns.. By DooDoo Brown..Ode to those Brownies, they're such a cheery crowd,Their women have bigger bulges, because they're more endowed.They piss and whine and moan, and eventually start to scream.Until one morning came, and Art done took the team."Why take the team???", the brownies said with a sigh,Art said, "The dog shit is everywhere, it makes me want to cry"..In the stands and in their hearts, the browns will remain,Until they get flushed like the browns they are.. Signed, King James..I shed a tear over this one guys.. Enjoy
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Ode to the Browns.. By DooDoo Brown..Ode to those Brownies, they're such a cheery crowd,Their women have bigger bulges, because they're more endowed.They piss and whine and moan, and eventually start to scream.Until one morning came, and Art done took the team."Why take the team???", the brownies said with a sigh,Art said, "The dog shit is everywhere, it makes me want to cry"..In the stands and in their hearts, the browns will remain,Until they get flushed like the browns they are.. Signed, King James..I shed a tear over this one guys.. Enjoy
Ode to the Browns.. By DooDoo Brown..Ode to those Brownies, they're such a cheery crowd,Their women have bigger bulges, because they're more endowed.They piss and whine and moan, and eventually start to scream.Until one morning came, and Art done took the team."Why take the team???", the brownies said with a sigh,Art said, "The dog shit is everywhere, it makes me want to cry"..In the stands and in their hearts, the browns will remain,Until they get flushed like the browns they are.. Signed, King James..I shed a tear over this one guys.. EnjoyWow. Did you write that one yourself, asshat? Genius.
On topic: Gotta feel as though this means that Mack is coming back. Those terms are perfect for him and good for the Browns as well. If Farmer passes, I'm going to be upset.
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Please, between the upcoming draft, contract extensions, mini camps, training camps and all of the pre season hype do you really think anyone will give two craps about the one month period during a contract negotiation when there was chat about "sources saying Alex Mack doesn't want to be in Cleveland" - doubt it.
Let's say the browns match, (which no one knows details, because he has not signed the offer sheet yet) Mack will come out with a statement (not his agent or through sources) that says how happy he is to play out his career with the Browns and how impressed he was with the new front office and especially the coaching staff. He will go on and on about it being a business and how at the end of the day he got what he wanted all along, a long term deal with the Cleveland Browns. Whether that is true or not, everyone will chill out because we now have a pro bowl center for the next 5 years...
that being said if he goes to Jacksonville screw him
GO BROWNS
You mean if the Browns don't match the offer fuck Mack? Cause that is his fault how? If the Browns wanted to lock him up they should have either A) offered him a long term deal after the season was over, which they never did, or franchise tag him and work out a long term deal. They used a transition tag allowing him to force a long term deal in his favor. They could have signed him for 7-8 million a year easy, but they didn't cause they kept sitting on their hands.
You mean if the Browns don't match the offer fuck Mack? Cause that is his fault how? If the Browns wanted to lock him up they should have either A) offered him a long term deal after the season was over, which they never did, or franchise tag him and work out a long term deal. They used a transition tag allowing him to force a long term deal in his favor. They could have signed him for 7-8 million a year easy, but they didn't cause they kept sitting on their hands.
Maybe you didn't hear- the Browns FO flew out to California to hear what Mack wanted before they transition tagged him. Apparently Mack wanted more- a lot more. That's his prerogative, but his agent was a class A dick the way it went down. Why weren't more teams interested? Because there were damn few teams with the cap room and the need- to pay a center $10 million plus this season. As said elsewhere blame cheap ass Banner for landing us in this mess. He should have been working on extending Mack last year.
With that being accurate, the Browns will match. I am still not happy about the way he & his agent went about this, but if he puts out 100% with a good attitude, I'm ok with it. If not, I'm hoping Pettine "evaluates" him & benches his ass.
Truth of the matter is,I guess I have to adjust my thinking. I am an old super loyal, super patriotic traditionalist. The times may have passed me by, but I'll cling to my old fashioned, outdated values until I'm planted in Ohio Western Reserve National Cemetery. Those values are a large part of why my jersey of choice sports #73.
Mike
Of course the Browns will match. They were already willing to pay Mack $10 million this year, they get a second year discount. That's still a ton to be paying a center.
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Exactly. The only thing that the Browns are thinking about is the guaranteed money in year 3 if he doesn't void the contract. He would be guaranteed 8 million then at the age of 31-32. Other than that, they get him cheaper for the next two seasons than what they were already prepared to pay him.
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Has anyone asked why Mack does not want to be here? It isn't for lack of money. Is it because he is tired of losing?
If that is the case does he think he is going to a winner if he signs with the Jags?
Or does he not want the cold weather? Is he that big of a pussy? The Browns season is usually done before the really bad weather of Jan/Feb. hit here. He can be sitting in sunny southern California during the bad season here if he wants.
Maybe he just doesn't like you.
Maybe he just wants the best deal he can get.....I don't blame him there. Who knows??
As fans, our hearts get in the way of making the best decision. Players aren't fans for the most part
Maybe he just doesn't like you.
He would be right to do so.
Maybe he just wants the best deal he can get.....I don't blame him there. Who knows??
As fans, our hearts get in the way of making the best decision. Players aren't fans for the most part
I think it is also probable that it was his agent who manufactured some of this supposed animosity he has against the Browns, which really isn't there. In the course of all this it was his agent who said that "he can craft an agreement that the Browns would not match"....as though Mack told him specifically that he does not want to play for the Browns. He also said "Mack wants to play under this deal...and he wants to play it in Jacksonville".
Again, all words out of the agents mouth, not Macks.
So, fuck a bunch of Marvin Demoff. This guy still holds grudges after 30+ years. The San Diego Chargers don't want to deal with him...because he still badmouths them because he believes they used the possiblility of trading for Elway (Demonff's client) as leverage to sign Dan Fouts to a new deal.
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Ode to the Browns.. By DooDoo Brown..Ode to those Brownies, they're such a cheery crowd,Their women have bigger bulges, because they're more endowed.They piss and whine and moan, and eventually start to scream.Until one morning came, and Art done took the team."Why take the team???", the brownies said with a sigh,Art said, "The dog shit is everywhere, it makes me want to cry"..In the stands and in their hearts, the browns will remain,Until they get flushed like the browns they are.. Signed, King James..I shed a tear over this one guys.. Enjoy
Ode to the Browns.. By DooDoo Brown..Ode to those Brownies, they're such a cheery crowd,Their women have bigger bulges, because they're more endowed.They piss and whine and moan, and eventually start to scream.Until one morning came, and Art done took the team."Why take the team???", the brownies said with a sigh,Art said, "The dog shit is everywhere, it makes me want to cry"..In the stands and in their hearts, the browns will remain,Until they get flushed like the browns they are.. Signed, King James..I shed a tear over this one guys.. EnjoyAt least you picked the right name...in that it implies that you are a piece of shit.
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Ode to the Browns.. By DooDoo Brown..Ode to those Brownies, they're such a cheery crowd,Their women have bigger bulges, because they're more endowed.They piss and whine and moan, and eventually start to scream.Until one morning came, and Art done took the team."Why take the team???", the brownies said with a sigh,Art said, "The dog shit is everywhere, it makes me want to cry"..In the stands and in their hearts, the browns will remain,Until they get flushed like the browns they are.. Signed, King James..I shed a tear over this one guys.. Enjoy
At least you picked the right name...in that it implies that you are a piece of shit.
At least you picked the right name...in that it implies that you are a piece of shit.
I had thought of deleting that Gip, but it's almost funny.
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Formerly Sane said:
I was listening to KNR a couple days ago and the numbnuts Cleveland media guy (it might have been Munch) said Mack wouldn't go to the Jags because "who would want to play for that team?" I find it interesting that he can use that logic in a discussion between the Browns and the Jags. If there is a team in the NFL who's history would turn a guy away, the Browns have to lead that parade.
Thirteen Championships. Call us when you have reached the half way point.
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Back on subject, the browns are now on the clock...Adam Schefter β@AdamSchefter 3m
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefterBrowns transition-tagged center Alex Mack signed his five-year, $42M offer sheet that includes $26M guaranteed with the Jaguars.Browns transition-tagged center Alex Mack signed his five-year, $42M offer sheet that includes $26M guaranteed with the Jaguars.
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Formerly Sane said:
Despite what you and most other Browns fans believe, the NFL has played a lot of football since the days you choose to remember. I realize there is nothing for you to thump your chest about in the last 50 years but don't you think it's time you get into the real world?
You are trolling on another team's forums, one that you say has not had anything to thump our chest about in 50 years...that is the "real world" in which you are living in right now.
Piss off.
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Several things:
If Mack is dedicated to 'leaving it on the field' for the Browns then there is no down side for Mack comin' back home. The deal may even save the Browns a few bucks.
If the Browns have the same two year out that everyone says Mack has in his contract, better still. Both Mack and the Browns can clock out on the contract if things change to the degree it would be best for the Browns.
I'm lovin' seeing Pluto back track on his 'the Browns FO has fucked up for dropping the transition tag on Mack' BS. Hahaha, who'd a thought Farmer and the crew knew more than a sports writer (cough cough).
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Several things:
If Mack is dedicated to 'leaving it on the field' for the Browns then there is no down side for Mack comin' back home. The deal may even save the Browns a few bucks.
If the Browns have the same two year out that everyone says Mack has in his contract, better still. Both Mack and the Browns can clock out on the contract if things change to the degree it would be best for the Browns.
I'm lovin' seeing Pluto back track on his 'the Browns FO has fucked up for dropping the transition tag on Mack' BS. Hahaha, who'd a thought Farmer and the crew knew more than a sports writer (cough cough).
Several things:If Mack is dedicated to 'leaving it on the field' for the Browns then there is no down side for Mack comin' back home. The deal may even save the Browns a few bucks.If the Browns have the same two year out that everyone says Mack has in his contract, better still. Both Mack and the Browns can clock out on the contract if things change to the degree it would be best for the Browns.I'm lovin' seeing Pluto back track on his 'the Browns FO has fucked up for dropping the transition tag on Mack' BS. Hahaha, who'd a thought Farmer and the crew knew more than a sports writer (cough cough).
I have to admit I am not a fan of Grossi or Cabot either. Cleveland deserves better sports writers! In fact most of the Browns bloggers are better than those three.
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Formerly Sane said:
You may call it trolling, I see it as a quick trip to the zoo to watch the monkeys play in their own poop
It's a nice diversion from a busy day.and i thought i had no purpose in life.
go hang yourself.
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Formerly Sane said:
You may call it trolling, I see it as a quick trip to the zoo to watch the monkeys play in their own poop
It's a nice diversion from a busy day.You call a nice diversion one that involves watching dumb primates throwing fecal matter at one another?
What is your nice diversion every Sunday during football season? The two sound very alike.
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I guess we can stop projecting C in the 4th round ...Mack is Back!
Adam Schefter β@AdamSchefter 4mAdam Schefter@AdamSchefterWell that didn't take long: Browns are matching Jacksonville's offer sheet for C Alex Mack. Cleveland keeps Mack, per source.Well that didn't take long: Browns are matching Jacksonville's offer sheet for C Alex Mack. Cleveland keeps Mack, per source.
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I guess we can stop projecting C in the 4th round ...Mack is Back!
Adam Schefter β@AdamSchefter 4mAdam Schefter@AdamSchefterWell that didn't take long: Browns are matching Jacksonville's offer sheet for C Alex Mack. Cleveland keeps Mack, per source.Well that didn't take long: Browns are matching Jacksonville's offer sheet for C Alex Mack. Cleveland keeps Mack, per source.
I guess we can stop projecting C in the 4th round ...Mack is Back!
Well that didn't take long: Browns are matching Jacksonville's offer sheet for C Alex Mack. Cleveland keeps Mack, per source.
And saving money over the next 2 yrs. This situation was handled textbook.
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