Mack stays with Browns
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I've yet to see him say that he doesn't want to be in Cleveland.
i heard many reports that he doesn't like in it cleveland, not as a franchise, but as a 'place' to play.
and who knows (hinting ar dbone's post) what happens now that he is the highest paid center. does he lay down knowing his future is set or does he still play balls out?
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Upgraded our D? Jury is still out on that
We didn't get worse talent wise on paper.
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Upgraded our D? Jury is still out on that
We didn't get worse talent wise on paper.
We didn't get worse talent wise on paper.
on D no, even though ward was younger. i do like both the LB and S signings. i think whitner will play above what ward was doing but we'll have to be looking at drafting another S in the near future, if not this year as well as another LB.
hawkins was a necessity at slot to play aside benjamin and cooper (if he makes the cut). burrelson was more a mentoring move as i believe he'll be retiring in 1 or 2 years.
tate was prob the best signing but that all depends on if he can stay healthy.
back to mack: hey the browns got to make history (recent) for something. we just made mack the highest paid center ever. i guess someone had to do it, as linemen are starting to get their due.
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Thank the Panthers for opening the door on centers getting huge contracts.
I am glad they matched the offer though. I think the core of the team needs to stay intact as best as possible.
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He has said publicly that he is happy and excited now after the contract mess is over. This was purely a money thing in my opinion, don't think he cared so much where he would actually play. It's a business and he got what he wanted.I've yet to see him say that he doesn't want to be in Cleveland.
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well he probably feels great when he turns left lining up to snap the ball and when he turns right and looks at that side of the line, wants to puke.
hopefully within these discussions and him being the highest paid center he chirped in farmer's ear that it might be nice to get some help on the right side.
well he probably feels great when he turns left lining up to snap the ball and when he turns right and looks at that side of the line, wants to puke.
hopefully within these discussions and him being the highest paid center he chirped in farmer's ear that it might be nice to get some help on the right side.
Well, you have The Schwartz over there who is a fellow Cal alum. But, yes, getting a right guard would be a bonus: How about getting a guy from Cal's rival Stanford: David Yankey....at #26...and make Ghoolie crazy.
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I've yet to see him say that he doesn't want to be in Cleveland.
i heard many reports that he doesn't like in it cleveland, not as a franchise, but as a 'place' to play.
and who knows (hinting ar dbone's post) what happens now that he is the highest paid center. does he lay down knowing his future is set or does he still play balls out?
i heard many reports that he doesn't like in it cleveland, not as a franchise, but as a 'place' to play.
and who knows (hinting ar dbone's post) what happens now that he is the highest paid center. does he lay down knowing his future is set or does he still play balls out?
I think it is probably the opposite.....Cleveland is a great place to play football....but the way the franchise has been run since he has been here is what I would think he would be upset about. He is now on his 4th HC in just the 5-6 years he has been here. I think the OL coach he liked is also gone. And the losing. No one is happy about that.
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i heard many reports that he doesn't like in it cleveland, not as a franchise, but as a 'place' to play.
and who knows (hinting ar dbone's post) what happens now that he is the highest paid center. does he lay down knowing his future is set or does he still play balls out?
I think it is probably the opposite.....Cleveland is a great place to play football....but the way the franchise has been run since he has been here is what I would think he would be upset about. He is now on his 4th HC in just the 5-6 years he has been here. I think the OL coach he liked is also gone. And the losing. No one is happy about that.
I think it is probably the opposite.....Cleveland is a great place to play football....but the way the franchise has been run since he has been here is what I would think he would be upset about. He is now on his 4th HC in just the 5-6 years he has been here. I think the OL coach he liked is also gone. And the losing. No one is happy about that.
Cleveland is not a great place to play football.
No place in the north is.
When given the option, nearly everyone would rather play in the south. If you say otherwise, you're lying.
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I think it is probably the opposite.....Cleveland is a great place to play football....but the way the franchise has been run since he has been here is what I would think he would be upset about. He is now on his 4th HC in just the 5-6 years he has been here. I think the OL coach he liked is also gone. And the losing. No one is happy about that.
Cleveland is not a great place to play football.
No place in the north is.
When given the option, nearly everyone would rather play in the south. If you say otherwise, you're lying.
Cleveland is not a great place to play football.
No place in the north is.
When given the option, nearly everyone would rather play in the south. If you say otherwise, you're lying.
more the west coast. nobody likes the south. i'd rather play in friggin minnesota than the south.
i heard the people down there really suck.
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Cleveland is not a great place to play football.
No place in the north is.
When given the option, nearly everyone would rather play in the south. If you say otherwise, you're lying.
more the west coast. nobody likes the south. i'd rather play in friggin minnesota than the south.
i heard the people down there really suck.
more the west coast. nobody likes the south. i'd rather play in friggin minnesota than the south.
i heard the people down there really suck.
I'm talking for climate purposes. Any time you can play a week 17 game at home and it's only like 60 degrees, from a players standpoint, that's perfect.
The people in Charlotte aren't so bad. Other places...yikes.
No players actually enjoy playing in sub freezing temperatures, no matter what they say. That's why the Pro Bowl is in Hawaii and not Canton.
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i was bustin balls.
no doubt it'd be better to play somewhere where the climate is nice all year round, like san diego.
BUT some of the most memorable games have been played in the worse conditions. i'm sure the players of those games didn't like it at the time, but for them to have been there and overcome the weather.........kinda like proving your manhood.
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more the west coast. nobody likes the south. i'd rather play in friggin minnesota than the south.
i heard the people down there really suck.
I'm talking for climate purposes. Any time you can play a week 17 game at home and it's only like 60 degrees, from a players standpoint, that's perfect.
The people in Charlotte aren't so bad. Other places...yikes.
No players actually enjoy playing in sub freezing temperatures, no matter what they say. That's why the Pro Bowl is in Hawaii and not Canton.
I'm talking for climate purposes. Any time you can play a week 17 game at home and it's only like 60 degrees, from a players standpoint, that's perfect.
The people in Charlotte aren't so bad. Other places...yikes.
No players actually enjoy playing in sub freezing temperatures, no matter what they say. That's why the Pro Bowl is in Hawaii and not Canton.
What's this "Pro Bowl" thing you speak of?
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I think it is probably the opposite.....Cleveland is a great place to play football....but the way the franchise has been run since he has been here is what I would think he would be upset about. He is now on his 4th HC in just the 5-6 years he has been here. I think the OL coach he liked is also gone. And the losing. No one is happy about that.
Cleveland is not a great place to play football.
No place in the north is.
When given the option, nearly everyone would rather play in the south. If you say otherwise, you're lying.
Cleveland is not a great place to play football.
No place in the north is.
When given the option, nearly everyone would rather play in the south. If you say otherwise, you're lying.
Dumbest thing I have yet heard you say. I am certain you say this only to stir up hornets.
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more the west coast. nobody likes the south. i'd rather play in friggin minnesota than the south.
i heard the people down there really suck.
I'm talking for climate purposes. Any time you can play a week 17 game at home and it's only like 60 degrees, from a players standpoint, that's perfect.
The people in Charlotte aren't so bad. Other places...yikes.
No players actually enjoy playing in sub freezing temperatures, no matter what they say. That's why the Pro Bowl is in Hawaii and not Canton.
I'm talking for climate purposes. Any time you can play a week 17 game at home and it's only like 60 degrees, from a players standpoint, that's perfect.
The people in Charlotte aren't so bad. Other places...yikes.
No players actually enjoy playing in sub freezing temperatures, no matter what they say. That's why the Pro Bowl is in Hawaii and not Canton.
The Pro Bowl is not a real game. Just a game to let the players go out and lay around the beach.
I also think that a vast majority of players would rather play a game in the 20s than in the 90s. They sure the fuck don't want to play weeks 1-4 in Tampa/Miami etc.
There is reason they have as many or more domes in the south...in N.O, Houston, Ariz., ATL etc. It is too goddamn hot to play there.
Sure, games approaching zero in temp are rough on everyone....but probably no less so than those games in the high 80s/90s.
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I'm talking for climate purposes. Any time you can play a week 17 game at home and it's only like 60 degrees, from a players standpoint, that's perfect.
The people in Charlotte aren't so bad. Other places...yikes.
No players actually enjoy playing in sub freezing temperatures, no matter what they say. That's why the Pro Bowl is in Hawaii and not Canton.
The Pro Bowl is not a real game. Just a game to let the players go out and lay around the beach.
I also think that a vast majority of players would rather play a game in the 20s than in the 90s. They sure the fuck don't want to play weeks 1-4 in Tampa/Miami etc.
There is reason they have as many or more domes in the south...in N.O, Houston, Ariz., ATL etc. It is too goddamn hot to play there.
Sure, games approaching zero in temp are rough on everyone....but probably no less so than those games in the high 80s/90s.
The Pro Bowl is not a real game. Just a game to let the players go out and lay around the beach.
I also think that a vast majority of players would rather play a game in the 20s than in the 90s. They sure the fuck don't want to play weeks 1-4 in Tampa/Miami etc.
There is reason they have as many or more domes in the south...in N.O, Houston, Ariz., ATL etc. It is too goddamn hot to play there.
Sure, games approaching zero in temp are rough on everyone....but probably no less so than those games in the high 80s/90s.
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By the way, correct me if I am wrong, but in the future, aren't they playing the Pro Bowl in like the stadium that the Super Bowl is to be played in.
I know that the game next year will be held in Glendale AZ, NOT in Hawaii. But apparently it will be held in Hawaii again the following year.
In the future they may end up having cities big on holding the Pro Bowl, just like they do the SB. But, perhaps, unlike the Super Bowl, they may not limit the city choice to just those places with an NFL team.
In that case a city like LA, obviously could host a Pro Bowl.
Yes, they would probably choose warmer weather cities. But how about a San Antonio, or a Tuscon, or Birmingham, college towns. Or Mexico.
Knowing the NFL's infatuation with international expansion, maybe they could go to Rio or Capetown, Australia etc.
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By the way, correct me if I am wrong, but in the future, aren't they playing the Pro Bowl in like the stadium that the Super Bowl is to be played in.
I know that the game next year will be held in Glendale AZ, NOT in Hawaii. But apparently it will be held in Hawaii again the following year.
In the future they may end up having cities big on holding the Pro Bowl, just like they do the SB. But, perhaps, unlike the Super Bowl, they may not limit the city choice to just those places with an NFL team.
In that case a city like LA, obviously could host a Pro Bowl.
Yes, they would probably choose warmer weather cities. But how about a San Antonio, or a Tuscon, or Birmingham, college towns. Or Mexico.
Knowing the NFL's infatuation with international expansion, maybe they could go to Rio or Capetown, Australia etc.
By the way, correct me if I am wrong, but in the future, aren't they playing the Pro Bowl in like the stadium that the Super Bowl is to be played in.
I know that the game next year will be held in Glendale AZ, NOT in Hawaii. But apparently it will be held in Hawaii again the following year.
In the future they may end up having cities big on holding the Pro Bowl, just like they do the SB. But, perhaps, unlike the Super Bowl, they may not limit the city choice to just those places with an NFL team.
In that case a city like LA, obviously could host a Pro Bowl.
Yes, they would probably choose warmer weather cities. But how about a San Antonio, or a Tuscon, or Birmingham, college towns. Or Mexico.
Knowing the NFL's infatuation with international expansion, maybe they could go to Rio or Capetown, Australia etc.
It's to be played in Arozona this year, then return to Hawaii.
Keep thinking most players would rather play in freezing cold weather. That's hilarious.
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By the way, correct me if I am wrong, but in the future, aren't they playing the Pro Bowl in like the stadium that the Super Bowl is to be played in.
I know that the game next year will be held in Glendale AZ, NOT in Hawaii. But apparently it will be held in Hawaii again the following year.
In the future they may end up having cities big on holding the Pro Bowl, just like they do the SB. But, perhaps, unlike the Super Bowl, they may not limit the city choice to just those places with an NFL team.
In that case a city like LA, obviously could host a Pro Bowl.
Yes, they would probably choose warmer weather cities. But how about a San Antonio, or a Tuscon, or Birmingham, college towns. Or Mexico.
Knowing the NFL's infatuation with international expansion, maybe they could go to Rio or Capetown, Australia etc.
It's to be played in Arozona this year, then return to Hawaii.
Keep thinking most players would rather play in freezing cold weather. That's hilarious.
It's to be played in Arozona this year, then return to Hawaii.
Keep thinking most players would rather play in freezing cold weather. That's hilarious.
Yes, players would rather play in cold, weather than in hot sweltering weather. Sure, playing in weather that is the 50s or 60s is fine....but for you to tell me that football players are such big pussies as to not handle a little cold weather would be very enlightening to me.
Maybe they would like to put on some footies, and have their Mommies serve them some hot cocoa at halftime.
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It's to be played in Arozona this year, then return to Hawaii.
Keep thinking most players would rather play in freezing cold weather. That's hilarious.
Yes, players would rather play in cold, weather than in hot sweltering weather. Sure, playing in weather that is the 50s or 60s is fine....but for you to tell me that football players are such big pussies as to not handle a little cold weather would be very enlightening to me.
Maybe they would like to put on some footies, and have their Mommies serve them some hot cocoa at halftime.
Yes, players would rather play in cold, weather than in hot sweltering weather. Sure, playing in weather that is the 50s or 60s is fine....but for you to tell me that football players are such big pussies as to not handle a little cold weather would be very enlightening to me.
Maybe they would like to put on some footies, and have their Mommies serve them some hot cocoa at halftime.
I couldn't disagree with you more as well and you're just being stubborn. It's pretty much common sense, when you deal with cold and snow it doesn't only suck from a comfort side. The ball turns into a slippery brick out there where in places like San Diego or Miami the worst you're dealing with is rain. How can you not see that?
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Yes, players would rather play in cold, weather than in hot sweltering weather. Sure, playing in weather that is the 50s or 60s is fine....but for you to tell me that football players are such big pussies as to not handle a little cold weather would be very enlightening to me.
Maybe they would like to put on some footies, and have their Mommies serve them some hot cocoa at halftime.
I couldn't disagree with you more as well and you're just being stubborn. It's pretty much common sense, when you deal with cold and snow it doesn't only suck from a comfort side. The ball turns into a slippery brick out there where in places like San Diego or Miami the worst you're dealing with is rain. How can you not see that?
I couldn't disagree with you more as well and you're just being stubborn. It's pretty much common sense, when you deal with cold and snow it doesn't only suck from a comfort side. The ball turns into a slippery brick out there where in places like San Diego or Miami the worst you're dealing with is rain. How can you not see that?
I am not being stubborn, I am being accurate....because you and I are not comparing the same thing.
Sure, it is nicer to play on a 60 degree day than a 20 degree day.....but it is NOT nicer for guys trussed up in pads etc. to be out there on 80-90 degree and humid than to be out there on a 20 degree day.
And it is a lot more dangerous. No one is going to get heat stroke on a 20 degree day.
I mean, you are really coming off as a southern woos.
Playing football in the snow is about as cool as it gets....and many players would tell you that.
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