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You all can forget about Watkins (Blackmon out for year)

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  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

    There's a chance Evans and Watkins go at 2 and 3. I really want one of them at 4.

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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @vaportrail said:

    There's a chance Evans and Watkins go at 2 and 3. I really want one of them at 4.

    I agree completely

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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    • alporciniA alporcini

      I still HATE that the Bengals snatched AJ Green with the 4th pick in the 2011 draft. Had he still been on the board instead of Julio Jones, I continue to believe we wouldn't have shipped the #6 to Atlanta.

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      @alporcini said:

      I still HATE that the Bengals snatched AJ Green with the 4th pick in the 2011 draft. Had he still been on the board instead of Julio Jones, I continue to believe we wouldn't have shipped the #6 to Atlanta.

      You are 100% correct about that.

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        Lol....yeah....sure.

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          Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger wrote on last edited by
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          I think the Jags are the team that pulls the trigger on Manziel. If they don't show something this year heads are going to roll, so they are desperate.

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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            News like this might make our front office consider Watkins/Evans even more now. I mean, Gordon could slip up just like. I hope he doesn't, and I think he won't, but it helps to be prepared.

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            • Harry Buffalo Harry BuffaloH
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              Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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              I don't think it raises or lowers the chance of the Jags taking him or someone else, simply because they already knew this for a while. The issue however is that I think there is a 50/50 chance that the Rams take Watkins, and still a 50/50 chance the Jags take him as well. The Rams other choice being Robertson and the Jags other choice or course being Mack. However I am also becoming more and more confident that even if Watkins and Mack are gone, and considering that fact that I do not believe we will take an OT at #4, we will also not be taking Manziel. I think at that point we have three choices. We take Evans, we take a surprise pick (I think it's Aaron Donald DL from Pitt), or we except a trade back offer with what ever team gives us a trade offer while also being the closest to offer to our selection (Example we would take an offer from the Bucs over the Vikings or the Lions).

              But the one thing I am serious about is us possibly taking someone that no one has been talking about. I keep hearing that the Browns have a surprise selection in mind. That COULD be Evans considering most don't think he should go that high, but if your taking our offensive needs out of the consideration, I think it is Donald, who is being talked about as one of the most dominate 3 technique DT to come out in the past decade.

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              • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

                I don't think it raises or lowers the chance of the Jags taking him or someone else, simply because they already knew this for a while. The issue however is that I think there is a 50/50 chance that the Rams take Watkins, and still a 50/50 chance the Jags take him as well. The Rams other choice being Robertson and the Jags other choice or course being Mack. However I am also becoming more and more confident that even if Watkins and Mack are gone, and considering that fact that I do not believe we will take an OT at #4, we will also not be taking Manziel. I think at that point we have three choices. We take Evans, we take a surprise pick (I think it's Aaron Donald DL from Pitt), or we except a trade back offer with what ever team gives us a trade offer while also being the closest to offer to our selection (Example we would take an offer from the Bucs over the Vikings or the Lions).

                But the one thing I am serious about is us possibly taking someone that no one has been talking about. I keep hearing that the Browns have a surprise selection in mind. That COULD be Evans considering most don't think he should go that high, but if your taking our offensive needs out of the consideration, I think it is Donald, who is being talked about as one of the most dominate 3 technique DT to come out in the past decade.

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                SCDawg82S SCDawg82 wrote on last edited by
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                @harry-buffalo said:

                I don't think it raises or lowers the chance of the Jags taking him or someone else, simply because they already knew this for a while. The issue however is that I think there is a 50/50 chance that the Rams take Watkins, and still a 50/50 chance the Jags take him as well. The Rams other choice being Robertson and the Jags other choice or course being Mack. However I am also becoming more and more confident that even if Watkins and Mack are gone, and considering that fact that I do not believe we will take an OT at #4, we will also not be taking Manziel. I think at that point we have three choices. We take Evans, we take a surprise pick (I think it's Aaron Donald DL from Pitt), or we except a trade back offer with what ever team gives us a trade offer while also being the closest to offer to our selection (Example we would take an offer from the Bucs over the Vikings or the Lions).

                But the one thing I am serious about is us possibly taking someone that no one has been talking about. I keep hearing that the Browns have a surprise selection in mind. That COULD be Evans considering most don't think he should go that high, but if your taking our offensive needs out of the consideration, I think it is Donald, who is being talked about as one of the most dominate 3 technique DT to come out in the past decade.

                I think Evans wouldn't be a bad pick! Seems like most people on this board agree (I'm not necessarily one of them) taking one of the two top QB's in this draft is a bad idea at number 4. Is it worth it then to trade UP to #2 and make sure you get one of the sure things (Watkins) in the draft? Mel Kiper thinks there are, what was it 4 elite players in this draft? I think there are two. JC and Watkins.

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                  C cuwoohio wrote on last edited by
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                  Maybe the Jags realize that adding another prima donna reciever to their roster isn't going to help them, just as it won't help the Browns.

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                    IIRC Donald is one hundred and ten percent a 4-3 DT. If that's the case, why the he'll sould we draft him if Pettine is runing a 3-4 hybrid scheme? Makes absolutely no sense.

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                    • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

                      There's a chance Evans and Watkins go at 2 and 3. I really want one of them at 4.

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                      hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                      @vaportrail said:

                      There's a chance Evans and Watkins go at 2 and 3. I really want one of them at 4.

                      @mld-woody said:

                      I agree completely

                      I can see Watkins going @ #2 to the Rams- but there's no way Evans is going to get picked that high. Interesting scouting tidbit about Evans- he's always played the right side- only.

                      @cuwoohio said:

                      Maybe the Jags realize that adding another prima donna receiver to their roster isn't going to help them, just as it won't help the Browns.

                      Where do you get the prima donna from? Haven't heard that one yet about Sammy.

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                      • C cuwoohio

                        Maybe the Jags realize that adding another prima donna reciever to their roster isn't going to help them, just as it won't help the Browns.

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                        SCDawg82S SCDawg82 wrote on last edited by
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                        @cuwoohio said:

                        Maybe the Jags realize that adding another prima donna reciever to their roster isn't going to help them, just as it won't help the Browns.

                        What exactly is that based off of? Been watching that dude play for three years..... Never seen it.....

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                          Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                          Gawwwdd, the Jags suck.

                          Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                          • Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President

                            Gawwwdd, the Jags suck.

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                            ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife wrote on last edited by
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                            @kosar_for_president said:

                            Gawwwdd, the Jags suck.

                            ...and they still beat us...
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                              @vaportrail said:

                              There's a chance Evans and Watkins go at 2 and 3. I really want one of them at 4.

                              @mld-woody said:

                              I agree completely

                              I can see Watkins going @ #2 to the Rams- but there's no way Evans is going to get picked that high. Interesting scouting tidbit about Evans- he's always played the right side- only.

                              @cuwoohio said:

                              Maybe the Jags realize that adding another prima donna receiver to their roster isn't going to help them, just as it won't help the Browns.

                              Where do you get the prima donna from? Haven't heard that one yet about Sammy.

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                              miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                              @hoorta said:

                              Where do you get the prima donna from? Haven't heard that one yet about Sammy.

                              exactly.

                              i haven't heard a word, a chirp from anyone eluding to the fact that there has ever been a problem with sammy watkins.

                              just another dude making shit up.

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                Clemson's HC is all about that christian life. He recruits letting the players know what's up. He baptized a player on the field, lol . I don't think any of them have real character issues.

                                I haven't heard anything in that regards about Watkins

                                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                                  Clemson's HC is all about that christian life. He recruits letting the players know what's up. He baptized a player on the field, lol . I don't think any of them have real character issues.

                                  I haven't heard anything in that regards about Watkins

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                                  SCDawg82S SCDawg82 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Clemson's HC is all about that christian life. He recruits letting the players know what's up. He baptized a player on the field, lol . I don't think any of them have real character issues.

                                  I haven't heard anything in that regards about Watkins

                                  It was awesome! It was our Pastor that did it!

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    That was just weed. It shouldn't even be illegal

                                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                      SCDawg82S SCDawg82 wrote on last edited by
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                                      He screwed up. He was suspended. But I haven't seen any kind of Terrell Owens type behavior.

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                                        C cuwoohio wrote on last edited by
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                                        "Where do you get the prima donna from? Haven't heard that one yet about Sammy"

                                        Sorry for the confusion here. I didn't mean to imply Watkins or Evans were prima donnas. I was referring to the position and that a team doesn't need 2 #1 receivers. It would lend itself to an ego competition that we don't need here. It would be great if the 2 receivers were mature enough to do what's best for the team, but that wouldn't be the norm if recent history means anything.

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                                          Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                                          The Jags are picking a QB...they don't have anyone even remotely average on their roster.

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