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  • I don't think it raises or lowers the chance of the Jags taking him or someone else, simply because they already knew this for a while. The issue however is that I think there is a 50/50 chance that the Rams take Watkins, and still a 50/50 chance the Jags take him as well. The Rams other choice being Robertson and the Jags other choice or course being Mack. However I am also becoming more and more confident that even if Watkins and Mack are gone, and considering that fact that I do not believe we will take an OT at #4, we will also not be taking Manziel. I think at that point we have three choices. We take Evans, we take a surprise pick (I think it's Aaron Donald DL from Pitt), or we except a trade back offer with what ever team gives us a trade offer while also being the closest to offer to our selection (Example we would take an offer from the Bucs over the Vikings or the Lions).

    But the one thing I am serious about is us possibly taking someone that no one has been talking about. I keep hearing that the Browns have a surprise selection in mind. That COULD be Evans considering most don't think he should go that high, but if your taking our offensive needs out of the consideration, I think it is Donald, who is being talked about as one of the most dominate 3 technique DT to come out in the past decade.

  • I don't think it raises or lowers the chance of the Jags taking him or someone else, simply because they already knew this for a while. The issue however is that I think there is a 50/50 chance that the Rams take Watkins, and still a 50/50 chance the Jags take him as well. The Rams other choice being Robertson and the Jags other choice or course being Mack. However I am also becoming more and more confident that even if Watkins and Mack are gone, and considering that fact that I do not believe we will take an OT at #4, we will also not be taking Manziel. I think at that point we have three choices. We take Evans, we take a surprise pick (I think it's Aaron Donald DL from Pitt), or we except a trade back offer with what ever team gives us a trade offer while also being the closest to offer to our selection (Example we would take an offer from the Bucs over the Vikings or the Lions).

    But the one thing I am serious about is us possibly taking someone that no one has been talking about. I keep hearing that the Browns have a surprise selection in mind. That COULD be Evans considering most don't think he should go that high, but if your taking our offensive needs out of the consideration, I think it is Donald, who is being talked about as one of the most dominate 3 technique DT to come out in the past decade.

    @harry-buffalo said:

    I don't think it raises or lowers the chance of the Jags taking him or someone else, simply because they already knew this for a while. The issue however is that I think there is a 50/50 chance that the Rams take Watkins, and still a 50/50 chance the Jags take him as well. The Rams other choice being Robertson and the Jags other choice or course being Mack. However I am also becoming more and more confident that even if Watkins and Mack are gone, and considering that fact that I do not believe we will take an OT at #4, we will also not be taking Manziel. I think at that point we have three choices. We take Evans, we take a surprise pick (I think it's Aaron Donald DL from Pitt), or we except a trade back offer with what ever team gives us a trade offer while also being the closest to offer to our selection (Example we would take an offer from the Bucs over the Vikings or the Lions).

    But the one thing I am serious about is us possibly taking someone that no one has been talking about. I keep hearing that the Browns have a surprise selection in mind. That COULD be Evans considering most don't think he should go that high, but if your taking our offensive needs out of the consideration, I think it is Donald, who is being talked about as one of the most dominate 3 technique DT to come out in the past decade.

    I think Evans wouldn't be a bad pick! Seems like most people on this board agree (I'm not necessarily one of them) taking one of the two top QB's in this draft is a bad idea at number 4. Is it worth it then to trade UP to #2 and make sure you get one of the sure things (Watkins) in the draft? Mel Kiper thinks there are, what was it 4 elite players in this draft? I think there are two. JC and Watkins.

  • Maybe the Jags realize that adding another prima donna reciever to their roster isn't going to help them, just as it won't help the Browns.

  • IIRC Donald is one hundred and ten percent a 4-3 DT. If that's the case, why the he'll sould we draft him if Pettine is runing a 3-4 hybrid scheme? Makes absolutely no sense.

  • There's a chance Evans and Watkins go at 2 and 3. I really want one of them at 4.

    @vaportrail said:

    There's a chance Evans and Watkins go at 2 and 3. I really want one of them at 4.

    @mld-woody said:

    I agree completely

    I can see Watkins going @ #2 to the Rams- but there's no way Evans is going to get picked that high. Interesting scouting tidbit about Evans- he's always played the right side- only.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Maybe the Jags realize that adding another prima donna receiver to their roster isn't going to help them, just as it won't help the Browns.

    Where do you get the prima donna from? Haven't heard that one yet about Sammy.

  • Maybe the Jags realize that adding another prima donna reciever to their roster isn't going to help them, just as it won't help the Browns.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Maybe the Jags realize that adding another prima donna reciever to their roster isn't going to help them, just as it won't help the Browns.

    What exactly is that based off of? Been watching that dude play for three years..... Never seen it.....

  • Gawwwdd, the Jags suck.

  • Gawwwdd, the Jags suck.

    @kosar_for_president said:

    Gawwwdd, the Jags suck.

    ...and they still beat us...
  • @vaportrail said:

    There's a chance Evans and Watkins go at 2 and 3. I really want one of them at 4.

    @mld-woody said:

    I agree completely

    I can see Watkins going @ #2 to the Rams- but there's no way Evans is going to get picked that high. Interesting scouting tidbit about Evans- he's always played the right side- only.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Maybe the Jags realize that adding another prima donna receiver to their roster isn't going to help them, just as it won't help the Browns.

    Where do you get the prima donna from? Haven't heard that one yet about Sammy.

    @hoorta said:

    Where do you get the prima donna from? Haven't heard that one yet about Sammy.

    exactly.

    i haven't heard a word, a chirp from anyone eluding to the fact that there has ever been a problem with sammy watkins.

    just another dude making shit up.

  • Clemson's HC is all about that christian life. He recruits letting the players know what's up. He baptized a player on the field, lol . I don't think any of them have real character issues.

    I haven't heard anything in that regards about Watkins

  • Clemson's HC is all about that christian life. He recruits letting the players know what's up. He baptized a player on the field, lol . I don't think any of them have real character issues.

    I haven't heard anything in that regards about Watkins

    @mld-woody said:

    Clemson's HC is all about that christian life. He recruits letting the players know what's up. He baptized a player on the field, lol . I don't think any of them have real character issues.

    I haven't heard anything in that regards about Watkins

    It was awesome! It was our Pastor that did it!

  • That was just weed. It shouldn't even be illegal

  • He screwed up. He was suspended. But I haven't seen any kind of Terrell Owens type behavior.

  • "Where do you get the prima donna from? Haven't heard that one yet about Sammy"

    Sorry for the confusion here. I didn't mean to imply Watkins or Evans were prima donnas. I was referring to the position and that a team doesn't need 2 #1 receivers. It would lend itself to an ego competition that we don't need here. It would be great if the 2 receivers were mature enough to do what's best for the team, but that wouldn't be the norm if recent history means anything.

  • The Jags are picking a QB...they don't have anyone even remotely average on their roster.

  • "Where do you get the prima donna from? Haven't heard that one yet about Sammy"

    Sorry for the confusion here. I didn't mean to imply Watkins or Evans were prima donnas. I was referring to the position and that a team doesn't need 2 #1 receivers. It would lend itself to an ego competition that we don't need here. It would be great if the 2 receivers were mature enough to do what's best for the team, but that wouldn't be the norm if recent history means anything.

    @cuwoohio said:

    "Where do you get the prima donna from? Haven't heard that one yet about Sammy"

    Sorry for the confusion here. I didn't mean to imply Watkins or Evans were prima donnas. I was referring to the position and that a team doesn't need 2 #1 receivers. It would lend itself to an ego competition that we don't need here. It would be great if the 2 receivers were mature enough to do what's best for the team, but that wouldn't be the norm if recent history means anything.

    If you mean "there aren't enough passes to go around" - I can see your point. I don't know how that would work out with the Browns. One thing for sure, winning cures a lot of complaints. BTW, it seems to have worked out OK for the Falcons and Bears, who you could say have two legit #1 WRs.

  • The Jags are picking a QB...they don't have anyone even remotely average on their roster.

    @mark-o said:

    The Jags are picking a QB...they don't have anyone even remotely average on their roster.

    You would think, but, with this Blackmon situation, they may feel Watkins is a better option....as they too may think that the guys available are second round talent overrated to 1st round talent merely because of the position they play.

  • The Jags are picking a QB...they don't have anyone even remotely average on their roster.

    @mark-o said:

    The Jags are picking a QB...they don't have anyone even remotely average on their roster.

    They are gonna start Denard lol