Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I doubt scouts give a shit about race. They just want the best player
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The Browns are not going to draft Johnny Futball.
Not going to happen. Not a fit.
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I want Johnny Football.
I respect your opinion 'Peen, but I have to disagree. Ya hang with gangstas, ya tend to get into gangsta trouble, eventually. Or a Ben Rapisberger situation with the ladies.
If Manziel had Carr's Bridgewater's or McCarron's character background, I'd have a lot less doubts about his draftability high in the first round. OK Dan Marino had a rep as a party-hearty in college that dropped his draft stock- but he wasn't hanging out with thugs.
As above, LSU showed the world how to defense JF- and NFL defensive coordinators are a lot quicker on the uptake.
As to Playground Legend's assertion that Manziel can hang with guys bigger than him on the football field- it depends on their conditioning, and athletic ability. Aren't any 250 pound marshmallows in the NFL.
The Browns are not going to draft Johnny Futball.
Not going to happen. Not a fit.
Not if character counts, they won't.
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I want Johnny Football.
I respect your opinion 'Peen, but I have to disagree. Ya hang with gangstas, ya tend to get into gangsta trouble, eventually. Or a Ben Rapisberger situation with the ladies.
If Manziel had Carr's Bridgewater's or McCarron's character background, I'd have a lot less doubts about his draftability high in the first round. OK Dan Marino had a rep as a party-hearty in college that dropped his draft stock- but he wasn't hanging out with thugs.
As above, LSU showed the world how to defense JF- and NFL defensive coordinators are a lot quicker on the uptake.
As to Playground Legend's assertion that Manziel can hang with guys bigger than him on the football field- it depends on their conditioning, and athletic ability. Aren't any 250 pound marshmallows in the NFL.
The Browns are not going to draft Johnny Futball.
Not going to happen. Not a fit.
Not if character counts, they won't.
I respect your opinion 'Peen, but I have to disagree. Ya hang with gangstas, ya tend to get into gangsta trouble, eventually. Or a Ben Rapisberger situation with the ladies.
If Manziel had Carr's Bridgewater's or McCarron's character background, I'd have a lot less doubts about his draftability high in the first round. OK Dan Marino had a rep as a party-hearty in college that dropped his draft stock- but he wasn't hanging out with thugs.
As above, LSU showed the world how to defense JF- and NFL defensive coordinators are a lot quicker on the uptake.
As to Playground Legend's assertion that Manziel can hang with guys bigger than him on the football field- it depends on their conditioning, and athletic ability. Aren't any 250 pound marshmallows in the NFL.
Not if character counts, they won't.
How do you know he hangs out with "gangstas" and "thugs?" Are you personally familiar with the people he hangs out with?
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
There is NOTHING wrong with Manziels character. Nothing.
You miss that picture? if I'm a GM that's not exactly the sort of clientele I want my franchise quarterback hanging out with on Saturday night.
Farmer did make a reference to it- that JF didn't handle the fame & adulation well. The question is- This is the big boy league now- time to grow up kid. Question is can he?
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
There is NOTHING wrong with Manziels character. Nothing.
You miss that picture? if I'm a GM that's not exactly the sort of clientele I want my franchise quarterback hanging out with on Saturday night.
Farmer did make a reference to it- that JF didn't handle the fame & adulation well. The question is- This is the big boy league now- time to grow up kid. Question is can he?
You miss that picture? if I'm a GM that's not exactly the sort of clientele I want my franchise quarterback hanging out with on Saturday night.
Farmer did make a reference to it- that JF didn't handle the fame & adulation well. The question is- This is the big boy league now- time to grow up kid. Question is can he?
Farmer actually said he really liked how JF has grown and says he has no problem with his character "issues" now, and also mentioned that the only reason they wouldn't draft him is if they didn't think he could play in the NFL. Says he had a lot thrown at him early with the fame but he has learned how to deal with it and is all about football and competing now.
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and the kid is a liar. he went on gruden QB camp and played the choir boy saying he was wrong playing the fame card and hanging out like he did and was going to change.
yeah, really? all he's done since is show up for the cameras, hang out and be the new 'kid celebrity' (Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche move over, lol).
hey there's nothing wrong with hanging out but if you're about to make a ton of money and you are telling people one thing and doing the exact opposite, how do you think those people are looking at you?
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
There is NOTHING wrong with Manziels character. Nothing.
You miss that picture? if I'm a GM that's not exactly the sort of clientele I want my franchise quarterback hanging out with on Saturday night.
Farmer did make a reference to it- that JF didn't handle the fame & adulation well. The question is- This is the big boy league now- time to grow up kid. Question is can he?
You miss that picture? if I'm a GM that's not exactly the sort of clientele I want my franchise quarterback hanging out with on Saturday night.
Farmer did make a reference to it- that JF didn't handle the fame & adulation well. The question is- This is the big boy league now- time to grow up kid. Question is can he?
What was wrong with that picture? And what teenager has ever handled fame and adulation well?
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Is a Brown, unfortunately.
I will always love you Bortles.
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I want Johnny Football.
I respect your opinion 'Peen, but I have to disagree. Ya hang with gangstas, ya tend to get into gangsta trouble, eventually. Or a Ben Rapisberger situation with the ladies.
If Manziel had Carr's Bridgewater's or McCarron's character background, I'd have a lot less doubts about his draftability high in the first round. OK Dan Marino had a rep as a party-hearty in college that dropped his draft stock- but he wasn't hanging out with thugs.
As above, LSU showed the world how to defense JF- and NFL defensive coordinators are a lot quicker on the uptake.
As to Playground Legend's assertion that Manziel can hang with guys bigger than him on the football field- it depends on their conditioning, and athletic ability. Aren't any 250 pound marshmallows in the NFL.
The Browns are not going to draft Johnny Futball.
Not going to happen. Not a fit.
Not if character counts, they won't.
I respect your opinion 'Peen, but I have to disagree. Ya hang with gangstas, ya tend to get into gangsta trouble, eventually. Or a Ben Rapisberger situation with the ladies.
If Manziel had Carr's Bridgewater's or McCarron's character background, I'd have a lot less doubts about his draftability high in the first round. OK Dan Marino had a rep as a party-hearty in college that dropped his draft stock- but he wasn't hanging out with thugs.
As above, LSU showed the world how to defense JF- and NFL defensive coordinators are a lot quicker on the uptake.
As to Playground Legend's assertion that Manziel can hang with guys bigger than him on the football field- it depends on their conditioning, and athletic ability. Aren't any 250 pound marshmallows in the NFL.
Not if character counts, they won't.
I am very much looking forward to you saying how much you like Johnny Manziel as a person two years from now.
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Can't wait to merge all of the Johnny Football threads and close them when we don't pick him.
I think he has T-Rich's record beat.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Can't wait to merge all of the Johnny Football threads and close them when we don't pick him.
I think he has T-Rich's record beat.
Zombo
Merge them now. And then Friday morning you will probably be able to close them.
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ESPN Sal Palentonio reported on NFL Live moments ago.
Sal interviewed Ray Farmer and reported the following:
"Yesterday Haslam came into their draft meeting, looked everybody in the eye and then addressed Ray Farmer and said, 'This is your pick. This is your draft.' Obviously trying to douse speculation that it's Haslam who is calling the shots."
"However, when I asked Ray Farmer to describe Johnny Manziel. What his reaction to Johnny Manziel. He gave me two words. He said, 'Polarizing Lightening-rod.' He did not say two-words, franchise quarterback."
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Farmer has nothing but good to say about every one. Espn tryin like hell to blow their darling JF.
"We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever. -
Only one who knows for sure who they will get is the team who picks No. one.
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Farmer has nothing but good to say about every one. Espn tryin like hell to blow their darling JF.
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