Jonathan Paul Manziel
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But tour who came here because he loved McCoy. LMAO.
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Just fucking with ya... Carry on.
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Just fucking with ya... Carry on.
WSS
Just fucking with ya... Carry on.
WSS
lol... well done, Sir...
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got me.
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But tour who came here because he loved McCoy. LMAO.
But tour who came here because he loved McCoy. LMAO.
I don't think that was the reason.. more like I love the Browns, but whatever...
I do remember thinking that of the choices of an over-the-hill Delhomme, a never was Wallach and Colt, that Colt was the clear choice.
Also remember saying that Wheezy was a terrible pick and was never going to be the guy, and that Colt deserved to start over him.
You want to argue for any of the other three mentioned above?
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I think youre really scraping the bottom of the barrel now Tour. Id be happy with playoffs.
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Westside Steve, on 07 May 2014 - 8:39 PM, said:
Just fucking with ya... Carry on.
WSS
lol... well done, Sir...
Shucks old crabapple can't even take a little joke...
WSS
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Why do so few people have Jacksonville selecting Manziel 3rd overall?
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You miss that picture? if I'm a GM that's not exactly the sort of clientele I want my franchise quarterback hanging out with on Saturday night.
Farmer did make a reference to it- that JF didn't handle the fame & adulation well. The question is- This is the big boy league now- time to grow up kid. Question is can he?
What was wrong with that picture? And what teenager has ever handled fame and adulation well?
@walterwhite said:
Hoorta, you honestly sound like a dad from the 1950's right now.
Manziel has gotten his shit together the past year and has done everything to train hard and not get into any trouble.
He's lightyears ahead of turds like Mettenbooger and Winston in that regard.
Manziel will be fine and a gem for whatever team decides to take him
You know who else sounds like a dad from the 50s? Most GMs- because they're around my age. And I hate to tell you they will all have the same concerns that I do- especially when they're having the owner write million dollar checks for a guy. They probably don't want him showing up on a police report. It's also a little thing called job security. Screwing up on a top 10 pick is a recipe for a quick trip to the unemployment line.
What was wrong with that picture? And what teenager has ever handled fame and adulation well?
Every other one of the other top qbs in the draft? Bridgewater buying a Cadillac for his mom? Carr staying home with the wife? You want to tell me McCarron wasn't as high profile quarterbacking a National Championship team at Alabama? He seems to have handled dating a super model quite nicely, thank you very much. OTOH, Manziel sucked up all the fame and adulation like a dehydrated pig at a water trough, and used his notoriety as Carte Blanche to behave for the most part as a Class A asshole off the field. And it was totally unnecessary. What was wrong with that picture? Hello? Like none of those guys are dopers? The NFL is all about image- and if you're going to hang with those sort of guys- don't put it on your Twitter page- jerk. I hope LeBum can knock some sense into his thick head. this isn't about drafting some second string running back- it's about drafting the face of your franchise.
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Why do so few people have Jacksonville selecting Manziel 3rd overall?
Haha- the stealth pick. If it's all about putting fans in the stands- no franchise picking in the top 5 needs that more than the Jags.
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ClevelandCleveland Browns should take Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel in 2014 NFL Draft -- Bill Livingston
Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel (2) rushes for a touchdown against Florida. Bill Livingston says the Browns should draft Manziel with their first pick in the NFL Draft. (AP)By Bill Livingston, The Plain DealerEmail the author | Follow on Twitteron May 07, 2014 at 6:00 AM, updated May 07, 2014 at 6:30 AMRedditCLEVELAND, Ohio -- With the first pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns should take Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel.But will they?As reader Steve Urcheck wrote on my Facebook page: "It's so CLE to put all your trust into Brian Hoyer. He's a great story. CLE kid kind of an underdog. But facts are facts. If you have been cut several times and been a back up for this long, there are reasons. He's not going to turn Into Kurt Warner or Roy Hobbs. We need a superstar that makes this Franchise relevant again. All professional teams regardless of sport win with stars that make plays and perform in crunch time. RT, Receivers and LB help, but are not game changers. Bill Livingston I AM READY FOR SOME JOHNNY FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!""I've argued much the same recently.Also not so recently.But Manziel is a high-risk, high-reward proposition. Some of those who speak Scout Talk and clutter the airwaves with biomechanical mumbo-jumbo might have been won over by Manziel's excellent Pro Day in College Station, Texas, although others will always consider genius to be suspicious.Mike Holmgren, who disciplined Brett Favre enough to win a Super Bowl with the ol' gunslinger in Green Bay, calls Manziel "too free-lancey." I'd say Holmgren was too free-loady as the Browns' supremo. None of his quarterback choices panned out here.If Manziel isn't there at No. 4, Clemson wide receiver Sammy Watkins is the lowest-risk pick of any skill-position player. My only reservations about Watkins, who burned Ohio State repeatedly in the Orange Bowl, is that the Buckeyes' defense was a match waiting to be struck. On pass defense, Ohio State was not very good, folks.The reason I think the Browns might take Manziel is actually the impetuous owner I've often criticized, Hotspur Haslam himself. When it comes to meddlesome owners – think the human moving van, Art Modell – I'm usually against them. But the Browns have been too conservative (and/or clueless) by half in their past picks since the franchise was restored.They have passed on offense for defense fairly recently (Phil Taylor instead of Julio Jones) and utterly calamitously (Gerard Warren instead of Ladainian Tomlinson.) They overdrafted an under-performer, Trent Richardson, at a position (running back) that is not obsolete, but is complementary in nature in today's game.Haslam's executives were aggressive in free agency, and there is no doubt the owner wants to make a big statement in the NFL Draft to counter the bad reviews he's gotten for dumping Bernie Kosar from the exhibition-game television team.Haslam has a flair for the big move, the outsized gesture. He tried to trade for San Francisco coach Jim Harbaugh. He's not going to be the type who wants to play it safe.The Browns have some serious pieces to the contention puzzle, chief among them wideout Josh Gordon. He is coming off the best receiving season in franchise history, despite serving a two-game suspension at its start and not having an elite quarterback to throw to him.Manziel made plays I saw no one else in college football make.Put him and Gordon together and let the fans dream. -
"Manziel made plays I saw no one else in college football make."
Pure BS.
Show me a play he make and i'll find a highlight of someone that can do BETTER.
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livingston is the second biggest windbag in cleveland right behind that crooked face bidatch MKC.
someone stick a pin in him already.
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I usually don't do it, but since this is Draft Day I decided to listen to the radio here at the office.
But what is pissing me off is the fact that these idiots cannot talk about anyone else except Johnny Manziel.
Now, I am not necessarily opposed to taking Johnny Manziel.....but why does he have to be THE exclusive topic of conversation?
There is a 99% chance that the Browns will NOT take this guy. So why do they have to spend 99% of their time talking about a guy that won't be here.
Please, for fuck's sake....close all Johnny Manziel topics on this board unless that 1% chance of the Browns taking him come to fruition.
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Amen Gip it's a fucking Johnny football love fest.
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