WR help ... Crabtree or Roddy White?

JAFBF

@canton-mike said:

With some of SF's issues on the DL(notably Smith), they may be willing to deal Crabtree. Just one of a number of possibilities, including players we may already have who were either not utilized or not utilized correctly. I am just so impressed that we didn't panic & throw OUR draft into turmoil because of the Gordon ordeal.

All this stuff just makes me more confident in Farmer & Pettine. We'll see what happens. I have always enjoyed seeing what happens with UDFA, my favorite part of the player acquisition "season".

Mike

I haven't looked lately, but aren't the 49er's a bit tight on Cap $ ?

I'm thinking that's one of the reasons we landed Whitner, plus they're still dealing with Kapernick.

Harry Buffalo

@jafbf said:

I haven't looked lately, but aren't the 49er's a bit tight on Cap $ ?

I'm thinking that's one of the reasons we landed Whitner, plus they're still dealing with Kapernick.

Yes which is why I think they would deal Crabtree for cheap. They could get a pick for him before they let him walk, plus they might want to get rid of him to make some cap space room this year. They need to sign their draft picks and UDFA but the Stevie Johnson trade takes up most of what remains of their space. We likely wouldn't be able to trade a player to them unless they cut some people loose.

For referance from what it is saying on ninersnation.com (the dawgsbynature.com of the 49ers) they are saying the 49ers have around 3.9 million in space, but Johnson is owed 3.6 million this yearin base and just under 300K in workout bonuses, so he takes ALL of their Space.

It doesn't help that they are still paying for AJ. Jenkins 1.5 million bonus.

LBC mike

all the Weeden and Richardson jerseys left on the shelves!!!!

LBC mike

Watch our 7th rounder be our best pick in a couple of years. LOL

Harry Buffalo

@walterwhite said:
What would we have to give up for Crabtree?

Million dollar question. Only 1 year left on his rookie deal, some injury history. I wouldn't give more than a mid round pick.

Canton Mike

Sheard is still on his rookie deal which would be doable for the 49ers.. Not a suggestion, just an example of what COULD be an option..

Mike

Osiris

@bummie said:
^^^This. He's the only name on my radar right now.

I like Coleman for his height advantage. If we brought him and Janis in I'd be happy.

Harry Buffalo

@osiris said:
I like Coleman for his height advantage. If we brought him and Janis in I'd be happy.

Janis got grabbed by the Packers, but they also grabbed 3 WR, so at least two are likely to be cut at some point.

Bummie

Dion Bailey, S (spelling?) and Christian Jones. Both projected as a mid round pick.

Bummie

Wrong thread

darren15

I seen 1 or 2 tweets last night from journalists saying we are looking at trading for Michael Crabtree and Roddy White ....any buzz in Cleveland on these rumors ?

Soju

I havent heard anything about that, but I hope something happens, we need wrs bad

Harry Buffalo

I haven't heard anything either. I highly doubt any trade is made until AFTER we have rookie mini camp. The FO is going to want to see who is worth keeping from the rookie stock before it clears to room it needs to trade for a player. That is unless the trade includes us trading away a play, in which case news could start speeding up on this issue.

However, without any Browns beat writters picking this up, I feel it is just more local speculation in San Fan and Atlanta at this point.

beare

heres the problem all teams now will try up there price being they know we need a reciever bad

DownSouthKC

@beare said:
heres the problem all teams now will try up there price being they know we need a reciever bad

And if they do then fuck em. They can be without Crabtree next year and nothing to show for it. He's worth a 3rd rounder.

Harry Buffalo

@beare said:
heres the problem all teams now will try up there price being they know we need a reciever bad

I don't think so. Value is value and if teams are looking to move a WR, they will move them for what they think is fair value. In Crabtree's situation, the team is not out of cap room and they really have no hope of resigning him after the season. Given that he only really has mid level production and has injury concerns, I would have to think that the 49ers wouldn't be able to net anything more than a 3rd round pick for him. They are going to want to get something for him instead of letting him walk, and that can work towards OUR advantage in any possible trade talks.

thenew23

@walterwhite said:
What would we have to give up for Crabtree?

I could see using that 2015 6th we got from Baltimore to pick up either Crabtree or White. We won't be trading any players until we closer to the cut dates...

Either way, a trade like this might not happen for a while, but it is the type of move we need to make to bring in a vet WR that can "act like" our WR1 this season just as a stop-gap.

D Bone

I don't think a 6th for White is going to get a call back from the ATL.

Gunz41

No, not even close with the 6th with Roddy White. I doubt the 4th from Buffalo would get it done. Roddy White is a good WR. I would give up a 3rd for him in a heartbeat

Gunz41

Here are some stats for Roddy White. Just took them off ESPN.

In 13 games last year, 63 catches for 711 yards and 3 TD's. That was also with Julio Jones so no threat on other side

In 16 games in 2012, 92 catches for 1351 yards and 7 TD's.

In 141 Career games, 685 catches for 9436 yards and 55 TD's. That would average out to 68 catches for 943 yards and 5 TD's.

If he can have that kind of year, that for sure warrants a 3rd or 4th round pick if ATL is trying to trade him. Doesn't replace Gordon, but about the best we can hope for.