Gordon is out for year. damnit.
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i just can't agree. There are plenty of people who'd like to smoke weed but don't? Why? Because they value their careers. Those same people man up to support their families and their peers who depend on them. If I was Josh Gordon's team mate I'd kick his damned ass.Because life goes on no matter how much or little money one makes.
i just can't agree. There are plenty of people who'd like to smoke weed but don't? Why? Because they value their careers. Those same people man up to support their families and their peers who depend on them. If I was Josh Gordon's team mate I'd kick his damned ass.
As I said- us guys who are subject to random drug tests do value our careers over drugs.
if he gets the boot and has to reapply, can he re-enter the league free of prior contracts and be like a free agent?
maybe his plan is to not be a Brown anymore. and he found a way to get out in a year. he's no stranger to sitting out a year...and he can get stoned with Ricky Williams the whole time. pretty sweet loophole if true.
or, he's in on the smoke screen and agreed to guage fan reaction to us thinking he fucked us. i am hopeful this second theory is true, but it's more likely to be doubtful.
as far as impact...just like when Peyton Manning went down for the Colts, NFL teams need to always have a plan B to keep rolling along when elite talent is removed from their plans. wanna place blame put some with the front office as well for counting on someone who let the entire organization down. i would have trusted him too just saying.
since they didn't draft Watkins or Evans it says obviously they either didn't like those prospects or their plan had higher priority than signing them where they fell.
i said this in the San Antonio Homes thread as well...i hope Flash gets a two year ban. these continued slaps on the wrist aren't having an effect. he should proceed assuming one year, then he can find out next year he isn't accepted and has to wait and reapply again next year...and maybe not even then. like a "we'll see...no guarantees" type situation. let him interview to get back in.
these kids and their fucking entitlement mentality.
he's had plenty of chances already and got cute and beat the system with that purple drank codeine cover up...but play time is over. he is an addict by definition. with so much at stake an abuser would have stopped at strike 1 or definitely 2. the fact he can't stop shows addictive traits and an inability to stop. he's powerless to refuse when confronted with the option. a higher priority on socializing and being a celebrity will doom even the most well intentioned addicts. a couple years away from the game will dry up his money enough to help him value the privilege of being a superstar WR playing in the League and send the message home. he must cut ties with any and all from the wrong crowd first and foremost...change his location...change his behavior. change his lifestyle. change his outlook. for a shot at being the G.O.A.T. at WR...why not suck it up and just be boring and a nerd for a little while?
he must decide, what's more important?
Well said. by definition you're an addict if your behavior affects you at work (among other things). Guess what Josh- you're addicted- maybe not to pot, but certainly to a drug lifestyle- because this is sure as hell going to affect you "at Work".
SMH.
Yeah, let's get rid of Josh because he has a positive test for weed.
You are the fucking idiot.
It's pretty simple PG. I'm going to hand you a blunt now, or hand you a $7 million dollar check next year, you can have one or the other . Which one do you want? Whoops Josh, bad choice.
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I used to smoke weed, and of my circle of friends I knew who also smoked, the only people who COULD NOT stop smoking weed were the ones who we're smoking blunts. I always assumed it was because of the mix of weed and tobacco, the tobacco made you addicted. But the only way you get a tobacco fix is through smoking blunts full of weed. Unless you start cigarettes but most heavy weed smokers that I know wouldn't touch cigarettes with a 10 foot pole.
So he's probably psychologically addicted to weed, and physically addicted to the tobacco. Assuming he smokes blunts, which I'm pretty sure he does
What the hell kind of blounts were you smoking? Mixing weed and tobacco? You use a blount wrap but certainly don't mix the two together. Smoking a blount is no different make up wise than smoking a bowl, bong etc.
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I used to smoke weed, and of my circle of friends I knew who also smoked, the only people who COULD NOT stop smoking weed were the ones who we're smoking blunts. I always assumed it was because of the mix of weed and tobacco, the tobacco made you addicted. But the only way you get a tobacco fix is through smoking blunts full of weed. Unless you start cigarettes but most heavy weed smokers that I know wouldn't touch cigarettes with a 10 foot pole.
So he's probably psychologically addicted to weed, and physically addicted to the tobacco. Assuming he smokes blunts, which I'm pretty sure he does
What the hell kind of blounts were you smoking? Mixing weed and tobacco? You use a blount wrap but certainly don't mix the two together. Smoking a blount is no different make up wise than smoking a bowl, bong etc.
What the hell kind of blounts were you smoking? Mixing weed and tobacco? You use a blount wrap but certainly don't mix the two together. Smoking a blount is no different make up wise than smoking a bowl, bong etc.
in Europe literally EVERYONE EXCEPT Americans mixes tobacco w their weed...even in pipes/bongs. google "weed cones".
bizarre, i know.
once in Amsterdam my gf and i tried it their way and our peers at that moment tried it ours.
they said it was too strong smoking it straight. we said it tasted like shit smoking it mixed.
to each their own. nowadays i use a vape pen. no smoke, no smell, no tip off. i can use it right next to you and you'd never even know. i have flown w it, oil, butter, and wax. no sweat. very clear high and only need a few tokes...or you'll hate yourself for getting too high. it's different...deeper...more O.D.able.
every state that's still illegal should adapt Colorado's fun and discreet nonchalant toys...instead of clam-bakin and ridge runnin like it's frickin amateur hour. it's like a fart in a phone booth...there's just no playin it off.
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Josh Gordon is a Beast and I don't give a fuck if he smokes weed. Plenty of athletes drink and party, if not for the outdated laws forbidding you to abstain from this substance but it's okay to use this one... that's fucking bullshit.
You fucks that want him gone can blow a fucking horse, fags. The dude just lead the NFL last year in yards with no QB! You are ready to sacrifice the kid because of some over the counter cough syrup and the gonja? Get the fuck out of here. Johnny Manziel might as well pick up and leave Cleveland now, fickle fucking fans. Jesus.
I hope Josh wins an appeal, as far as I know this is him first and only Pot related OFFENSE since joining the NFL. That should not be a season long ban.
rules are rules. he's still my favorite current player. this isn't a moral thing.
i smoke pot at will...but i have a CO redcard, and i'm self employed.
there's a world of difference.
and adoug: i think Josh is exempt from your blunt addiction hypothesis.
no one in The States mixes tobacco with their weed. ever. like literally no one.
(except maybe an expat...which JG is not)
rules are rules. he's still my favorite current player. this isn't a moral thing.
i smoke pot at will...but i have a CO redcard, and i'm self employed.
there's a world of difference.
and adoug: i think Josh is exempt from your blunt addiction hypothesis.
no one in The States mixes tobacco with their weed. ever. like literally no one.
(except maybe an expat...which JG is not)
True, no one mixes tobacco with weed. But blunt wraps are made out of tobacco leaves
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Josh Gordon is a Beast and I don't give a fuck if he smokes weed. Plenty of athletes drink and party, if not for the outdated laws forbidding you to abstain from this substance but it's okay to use this one... that's fucking bullshit.
You fucks that want him gone can blow a fucking horse, fags. The dude just lead the NFL last year in yards with no QB! You are ready to sacrifice the kid because of some over the counter cough syrup and the gonja? Get the fuck out of here. Johnny Manziel might as well pick up and leave Cleveland now, fickle fucking fans. Jesus.
I hope Josh wins an appeal, as far as I know this is him first and only Pot related OFFENSE since joining the NFL. That should not be a season long ban.
rules are rules. he's still my favorite current player. this isn't a moral thing.
i smoke pot at will...but i have a CO redcard, and i'm self employed.
there's a world of difference.
and adoug: i think Josh is exempt from your blunt addiction hypothesis.
no one in The States mixes tobacco with their weed. ever. like literally no one.
(except maybe an expat...which JG is not)
rules are rules. he's still my favorite current player. this isn't a moral thing.
i smoke pot at will...but i have a CO redcard, and i'm self employed.
there's a world of difference.
and adoug: i think Josh is exempt from your blunt addiction hypothesis.
no one in The States mixes tobacco with their weed. ever. like literally no one.
(except maybe an expat...which JG is not)
Wrong. The Dominicans that lived above me in brooklyn, ny routinely mixed tobacco in with their weed
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rules are rules. he's still my favorite current player. this isn't a moral thing.
i smoke pot at will...but i have a CO redcard, and i'm self employed.
there's a world of difference.
and adoug: i think Josh is exempt from your blunt addiction hypothesis.
no one in The States mixes tobacco with their weed. ever. like literally no one.
(except maybe an expat...which JG is not)
True, no one mixes tobacco with weed. But blunt wraps are made out of tobacco leaves
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rules are rules. he's still my favorite current player. this isn't a moral thing.
i smoke pot at will...but i have a CO redcard, and i'm self employed.
there's a world of difference.
and adoug: i think Josh is exempt from your blunt addiction hypothesis.
no one in The States mixes tobacco with their weed. ever. like literally no one.
(except maybe an expat...which JG is not)
Wrong. The Dominicans that lived above me in brooklyn, ny routinely mixed tobacco in with their weed
Wrong. The Dominicans that lived above me in brooklyn, ny routinely mixed tobacco in with their weed
that's an expat homey
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What the hell kind of blounts were you smoking? Mixing weed and tobacco? You use a blount wrap but certainly don't mix the two together. Smoking a blount is no different make up wise than smoking a bowl, bong etc.
in Europe literally EVERYONE EXCEPT Americans mixes tobacco w their weed...even in pipes/bongs. google "weed cones".
bizarre, i know.
once in Amsterdam my gf and i tried it their way and our peers at that moment tried it ours.
they said it was too strong smoking it straight. we said it tasted like shit smoking it mixed.
to each their own. nowadays i use a vape pen. no smoke, no smell, no tip off. i can use it right next to you and you'd never even know. i have flown w it, oil, butter, and wax. no sweat. very clear high and only need a few tokes...or you'll hate yourself for getting too high. it's different...deeper...more O.D.able.
every state that's still illegal should adapt Colorado's fun and discreet nonchalant toys...instead of clam-bakin and ridge runnin like it's frickin amateur hour. it's like a fart in a phone booth...there's just no playin it off.
in Europe literally EVERYONE EXCEPT Americans mixes tobacco w their weed...even in pipes/bongs. google "weed cones".
this is true. it is called a cone. the germans smoke cones with hash and weed. was a tough smoke because the hash is so moist. but they never just smoked weed straight. i guess it wasn't interesting enough.
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They're in the states, yeah? I tried it once but it was harsh.
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What the hell kind of blounts were you smoking? Mixing weed and tobacco? You use a blount wrap but certainly don't mix the two together. Smoking a blount is no different make up wise than smoking a bowl, bong etc.
in Europe literally EVERYONE EXCEPT Americans mixes tobacco w their weed...even in pipes/bongs. google "weed cones".
bizarre, i know.
once in Amsterdam my gf and i tried it their way and our peers at that moment tried it ours.
they said it was too strong smoking it straight. we said it tasted like shit smoking it mixed.
to each their own. nowadays i use a vape pen. no smoke, no smell, no tip off. i can use it right next to you and you'd never even know. i have flown w it, oil, butter, and wax. no sweat. very clear high and only need a few tokes...or you'll hate yourself for getting too high. it's different...deeper...more O.D.able.
every state that's still illegal should adapt Colorado's fun and discreet nonchalant toys...instead of clam-bakin and ridge runnin like it's frickin amateur hour. it's like a fart in a phone booth...there's just no playin it off.
in Europe literally EVERYONE EXCEPT Americans mixes tobacco w their weed...even in pipes/bongs. google "weed cones".
bizarre, i know.
once in Amsterdam my gf and i tried it their way and our peers at that moment tried it ours.
they said it was too strong smoking it straight. we said it tasted like shit smoking it mixed.
to each their own. nowadays i use a vape pen. no smoke, no smell, no tip off. i can use it right next to you and you'd never even know. i have flown w it, oil, butter, and wax. no sweat. very clear high and only need a few tokes...or you'll hate yourself for getting too high. it's different...deeper...more O.D.able.
every state that's still illegal should adapt Colorado's fun and discreet nonchalant toys...instead of clam-bakin and ridge runnin like it's frickin amateur hour. it's like a fart in a phone booth...there's just no playin it off.
My dad uses a pax ploom. Vaping is 100% The way to go.
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The more that time goes on, the more comfortable I become with this situation. They are going to find players (not player) to fill the void. One or more of these UDFA is going to show something, some guys already on the roster are going to show something, and I have a feeling Farmer is going to bring in a player after he has had time to sift through all the rookies. Not to mention we are going to see some other solid WRs lose their jobswith the ammount of rookies that re going to come in and force them out.
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in Europe literally EVERYONE EXCEPT Americans mixes tobacco w their weed...even in pipes/bongs. google "weed cones".
bizarre, i know.
once in Amsterdam my gf and i tried it their way and our peers at that moment tried it ours.
they said it was too strong smoking it straight. we said it tasted like shit smoking it mixed.
to each their own. nowadays i use a vape pen. no smoke, no smell, no tip off. i can use it right next to you and you'd never even know. i have flown w it, oil, butter, and wax. no sweat. very clear high and only need a few tokes...or you'll hate yourself for getting too high. it's different...deeper...more O.D.able.
every state that's still illegal should adapt Colorado's fun and discreet nonchalant toys...instead of clam-bakin and ridge runnin like it's frickin amateur hour. it's like a fart in a phone booth...there's just no playin it off.
My dad uses a pax ploom. Vaping is 100% The way to go.
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The more that time goes on, the more comfortable I become with this situation. They are going to find players (not player) to fill the void. One or more of these UDFA is going to show something, some guys already on the roster are going to show something, and I have a feeling Farmer is going to bring in a player after he has had time to sift through all the rookies. Not to mention we are going to see some other solid WRs lose their jobswith the ammount of rookies that re going to come in and force them out.
The more that time goes on, the more comfortable I become with this situation.
same here. i'd still like to see them take a look at Santonio Holmes. he still has quite a bit of gas left in his tank, been to the big dance, good experienced vet.
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What the hell kind of blounts were you smoking? Mixing weed and tobacco? You use a blount wrap but certainly don't mix the two together. Smoking a blount is no different make up wise than smoking a bowl, bong etc.
in Europe literally EVERYONE EXCEPT Americans mixes tobacco w their weed...even in pipes/bongs. google "weed cones".
bizarre, i know.
once in Amsterdam my gf and i tried it their way and our peers at that moment tried it ours.
they said it was too strong smoking it straight. we said it tasted like shit smoking it mixed.
to each their own. nowadays i use a vape pen. no smoke, no smell, no tip off. i can use it right next to you and you'd never even know. i have flown w it, oil, butter, and wax. no sweat. very clear high and only need a few tokes...or you'll hate yourself for getting too high. it's different...deeper...more O.D.able.
every state that's still illegal should adapt Colorado's fun and discreet nonchalant toys...instead of clam-bakin and ridge runnin like it's frickin amateur hour. it's like a fart in a phone booth...there's just no playin it off.
in Europe literally EVERYONE EXCEPT Americans mixes tobacco w their weed...even in pipes/bongs. google "weed cones".
bizarre, i know.
once in Amsterdam my gf and i tried it their way and our peers at that moment tried it ours.
they said it was too strong smoking it straight. we said it tasted like shit smoking it mixed.
to each their own. nowadays i use a vape pen. no smoke, no smell, no tip off. i can use it right next to you and you'd never even know. i have flown w it, oil, butter, and wax. no sweat. very clear high and only need a few tokes...or you'll hate yourself for getting too high. it's different...deeper...more O.D.able.
every state that's still illegal should adapt Colorado's fun and discreet nonchalant toys...instead of clam-bakin and ridge runnin like it's frickin amateur hour. it's like a fart in a phone booth...there's just no playin it off.
From what I here in Europe they also mix hash with tabacco and smoke it.
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true. as an aside...their marlboros taste completely different, burn down to nothing (no idiots threatening lawsuits for burning down their homes smoking in bed -- so no chemical that makes it burn out after 30 seconds), and smoke and taste awesome.
for cigarettes.
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A better question would be how many of you have gotten stoned on a job that pays 5 mill for 4 years? I'm gunna guess 0.
Ask Jim Irsay...
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A better question would be how many of you have gotten stoned on a job that pays 5 mill for 4 years? I'm gunna guess 0.
Ask Jim Irsay...
He doesn't post here and that's who our questions were meant for. He is a "Billionaire" who hasn't affected his team the way Josh has. He won't get in any trouble once it's all done, his team will still be the same and he will still be a billionaire. Even if he would've done time he would've had people running the show. He also didn't get caught from a failed pee test. He is a dumbass though... I'm over the whole thing already, i was a Flash fan and hope this shit works out. My hopes for this year are kinda shot though until we all know whats going to happen. Was a real buzzkill. If it all works out and he's still a Brown when it's all said and done, i really hope he smartens up and drops the drugs at least until he retires.Ask Jim Irsay...
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I would like to see Jim held to a higher standard though. He's going to get fined 100,000 grand then nothing. If the NBA proved anything, be tough on your owners when they deserve it. Owners are just as public of figures as the players and this isn't Jims first time in hot water. Wouldn't he be in level 2 by now himself? I say bann him from his own building and any games for 4 weeks and fine him. But when you fine him, figure out his yearly profit from owning the team, and take a quarter of it. Put that money into educating the players on how to not fuck up.
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I call bullshit on it being a simple mistake that he smoked weed. Gordon knew he was on thin ice, and was fully aware that smoking it even one time might get him suspended for a year. Stupid. And if for some reason it somehow miraculously slipped his mind when the joint was passed? Stupid. But really that's BS. Not only are you making millions, but being suspended for one year is a long time when talking in the context of a player's NFL career.
It might be a stupid NFL rule, and he obviously thinks it's a stupid rule, but he chose a very poor way to protest that belief, IMO. Didn't do a damn thing except hurt himself, his team and his fans.
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I wonder if the test showed a slight reference to dope, which he could get
by being at a party where other idiots smoked it?
Or not. Is there a difference between being a guest for dinner, say, at a friend's
house where it was smoked, that level, and actually smoking it yourself?
Or more like "pass/fail" regardless of degree of exposure?
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