Jonathan Paul Manziel
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alright. he's a brown. i get it.
but if you want to start a memorium, can you do it somewhere else?
this isn't the johnny manziel forum, this is the brown's forum.
show me where someone broke down joe haden or joe thomas's college games play by play and posted them here on the forum.
a little over the top don't ya think by someone who just joined and who is obviously just a JF fan and not a brown's fan.
wasted space on some server some where.
alright. he's a brown. i get it.
but if you want to start a memorium, can you do it somewhere else?
this isn't the johnny manziel forum, this is the brown's forum.
show me where someone broke down joe haden or joe thomas's college games play by play and posted them here on the forum.
a little over the top don't ya think by someone who just joined and who is obviously just a JF fan and not a brown's fan.
wasted space on some server some where.
What is your problem? I NEVER WATCHED MANZIEL before two weeks ago..
Been a browns fan since 1979 and Brian Sipe.. I didn't do a PLAY BY PLAY of the entire game.. I have read most of your posts since draft day on Thursday and they are all the same.. Some kind of deep anger towards someone... Take a breath and enjoy the few months we have, before reality sets back in...
BobPound!
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alright. he's a brown. i get it.
but if you want to start a memorium, can you do it somewhere else?
this isn't the johnny manziel forum, this is the brown's forum.
show me where someone broke down joe haden or joe thomas's college games play by play and posted them here on the forum.
a little over the top don't ya think by someone who just joined and who is obviously just a JF fan and not a brown's fan.
wasted space on some server some where.
alright. he's a brown. i get it.
but if you want to start a memorium, can you do it somewhere else?
this isn't the johnny manziel forum, this is the brown's forum.
show me where someone broke down joe haden or joe thomas's college games play by play and posted them here on the forum.
a little over the top don't ya think by someone who just joined and who is obviously just a JF fan and not a brown's fan.
wasted space on some server some where.
Still one Justin Gilbert thread, buried on the second or third page.
827 Johnny threads.
I love Browns fans, but we sure do get gay about QBs.
We will win a Super Bowl when we have a Championship Team. Hopefully Johnny plays a role in that, just like RW did for Seattle.
Zombo
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alright. he's a brown. i get it.
but if you want to start a memorium, can you do it somewhere else?
this isn't the johnny manziel forum, this is the brown's forum.
show me where someone broke down joe haden or joe thomas's college games play by play and posted them here on the forum.
a little over the top don't ya think by someone who just joined and who is obviously just a JF fan and not a brown's fan.
wasted space on some server some where.
Still one Justin Gilbert thread, buried on the second or third page.
827 Johnny threads.
I love Browns fans, but we sure do get gay about QBs.
We will win a Super Bowl when we have a Championship Team. Hopefully Johnny plays a role in that, just like RW did for Seattle.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Still one Justin Gilbert thread, buried on the second or third page.
827 Johnny threads.
I love Browns fans, but we sure do get gay about QBs.
We will win a Super Bowl when we have a Championship Team. Hopefully Johnny plays a role in that, just like RW did for Seattle.
Zombo
Well you have to admit that the Browns have a tendency towards QB drama, so I would expect that the ratio of people commenting on a QB pick versus a super solid pick for DB should be about 20 to 1..
There is little to no debating that Gilbert was the best pick for us at that spot, especially with the 1st round pick cherry in 2015 thrown on top...
Manziel is a little less so.. There were a lot of good players on the board at 22(or 26 if we didn't trade up).... You have to expect that all the talk is going to be focused on QB for a long time...
Well that and Josh Gordon's impending suspension.... Part of being a Browns fan..
BobPound!
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LOL! All you have to know about this game is the looks on the faces of the Stoops brothers as he continued to run, dodge, jump, throw and fly past them on the sidelines with a lot of OU's superfast players in his wake. At one point they were both jumping up and down in total frustration as Johnny passed right by them on the sideline for a 30-40 yard run.
And his tightrope TD along the other sideline with a last second high hurdle over a 3 foot high invisible goal line was pure JFF. Just a hill country deer hopping the fence for a little more corn.
But Honestly TexasAG, those are his worst moments in the game, even thought they ended up being great to watch football.
He has good fundamentals, and if he learns to stand just an extra 1 second in the pocket before bring the ball down and running, he will last a lot longer in the AFC North...
He hasn't had to play against the insane blitzing schemes of the Pittsburgh Steelers or the absolutely skull crushing Linebacker's of the Baltimore Ravens. Nor has he had to run in ten below wind chills and howling 30 Mph winds...
He needs to take a piece of humble pie and realize that his Johnny Football persona is going to hurt his team if he goes down with a separated shoulder because he went head to head with an NFL linebacker... He has good fundamentals, he needs to sit in the back seat for a while and learn how the NFL works...
It will do himself and the Browns no good if he is thrown to the lion's like Couch was in 1999....
What I do like about the EGO though, is that he is going to need it here in Cleveland.. Because there is no other city that abuses its QB's more than Cleveland.. Remember the dog pound applauding when Couch went out with an injury... Harsh.....
BobPound!
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Because he is now "our guy" I hope that he does not have a career like Bernie....or a career like Brian Sipe....but a career like Joe Montana or Otto Graham.
Will he have that kind of career? Who the hell knows. When you have a Bart Starr going in the 17th round, a Johnny Unitas being cut by his first team, A Joe Montana being drafted in the third round, a Brett FAvre being drafted in the second round then being traded for handful of beans, a Russell Wilson going in the third round, a Dan Marino lasting until pick #27 (at that time just one pick up from a 2d rounder) god knows what kind a draft position you can get a great QB from.
Of course, sure, you do have your Bradshaws, Elways, Aikmans, Mannings, #1 overall guys that live up to it.
(but you also have your Jeff Georges, Jamarcus Russells etc.. #1 guys that basically suck)
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Manziel will start day 1.
Hoyer is not even cleared for contact.
The throngs will call for Johnny, and Johnny they will get... or they'll tear the fucking stadium down.
You don't draft Elvis Presley in his prime and sit him behind Justin 'Beaver'.
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They should have just drafted Watkins, Carr and Hyde.
Manziel will start day 1.
Hoyer is not even cleared for contact.
The throngs will call for Johnny, and Johnny they will get... or they'll tear the fucking stadium down.
You don't draft Elvis Presley in his prime and sit him behind Justin 'Beaver'.
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They should have just drafted Watkins, Carr and Hyde.
Ahh.....but Johnny Football is hardly in his prime.. even Elvis spent a few years as the backup act to Slim Whitman and Bill Haley and the Comets.
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We always get new fans when we draft a QB (almost every year) and I have been with the attitude of lets see it.. Texas fans with Colt, Oaky ST. fans with Weeden and so forth.... Some of us are kinda jaded. Johnny is a great College player.... Hoping he does us well.
By the way Welcome aboard.
That does not bode well for the Browns...taking all those old Southwest Conference School QBs (which is the league the OP still remembers I'm sure)
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Ag,
I'm one of those guys who cheered for Jimmy Brown too. The selection of Johnny has me more than ANY pick since I was 10 years old in 1956. That pick was Jimmy Brown. There are a lot of skeptics out there & I may be wrong about Johnny, but I don't think I am. This kid's skills, intangibles, & determination to keep improving are off the charts.
BTW, welcome!
Mike
Actually, getting Bernie Kosar in the supplemental draft was every bit as big as this.....just without the internet connections.
And there was the drafting of LeBron, probably even bigger.
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I feel like the one thing that will make or break our team is continuity. That goes for coaching and QB. I am hoping Farmer can be to us what Newsome is in Baltimore. Manziel, while I wasn't a fan of his (or a person hoping he'd be drafted by us) has a chance in my mind. I will give him a few years to develop - as I know he is raw and will need time.
This coaching staff reminds me quite a bit of the Steelers under Cowher and Pettine reminds me quite a bit of him as well. They need to stick it out with this staff and let them coach the team up rather than blow it up after 2 or 3 seasons of 5-11, 6-10... I think we will be competing for the division in the next three years and eventually we will take it over if we can keep the concept of continuity.
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Well, he should. Hopefully he does.
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Show the link. I find it hard to believe the owner of the Browns would say that about any player. Sound like bullshit.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
& Johnny is such an arrogant prick?
Is there a link to this comment? Kinda hard to believe he would say something like that publically. I don't see a realistic upside to that. Let coaches make that comment. It's not his job to temper expectations for the media and the fans. His job is "to help the team and god willing, things will work out."
Well considering it's his franchise, he can do whatever the hell he wants. He defines what his job is.
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Show the link. I find it hard to believe the owner of the Browns would say that about any player. Sound like bullshit.
Show the link. I find it hard to believe the owner of the Browns would say that about any player. Sound like bullshit.
Here is the link
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"Cleveland owner Jimmy Haslam says the Browns have told Johnny Manziel to start acting 'like a backup quarterback.'"
Translation...
Jimmy Haslam is subliminally telling "the fans" to start acting like JF is the backup quarterback to temper expectations just in case he doesn't win the starting job this season...
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Jimmy Haslam is trying to push Manziel's buttons so he comes into camp hungry and easily takes over the starting job after obviously winning the competetion through the course of the off-season and pre-season...
OR
Both
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He says he will have to beat out Hoyer. No shit.
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The WKNR rumor mill reports that Farmer had his draft card filled out with Teddy Bridgewaters name and Jimmy Haslam overruled him.
WSS
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The WKNR rumor mill reports that Farmer had his draft card filled out with Teddy Bridgewaters name and Jimmy Haslam overruled him.
WSS
The WKNR rumor mill reports that Farmer had his draft card filled out with Teddy Bridgewaters name and Jimmy Haslam overruled him.
WSS
on nothing other than gut feel I beleive this is likely true. When Farmer was asked in a presser why Johnny vs. Teddy he really seemed taken aback and stuttery. I think this is the reason why even though later when specifically asked this he denied it. Of course he did he cant confirm it.
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That was a waste of my time.
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Who gives a flying fuck. Manziel is the choice. Quit acting like a bunch of bitches.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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