Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Stupid video or not
It was a "splash" pick to end all "splash picks"
A first year GM, new HC, new staff.... New org chart for the franchise??? It might be gay to call it a conspiracy , but what the hell do you call it??? We trade out of 4 - pass on the best WR ...knowing all along Gordon will be gone.?? unexplainable. It's a nice distraction for farmer as well.... We blew it....farmer was betting on another top receiver being there after his trade...so they went DB. From that point on it was "shock the world Thursday night, then tank the draft" ... Everyone is happy. 4-12
Try to win next year....what's another season ?. Really ?
Bermeck (tired of losing)
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Stupid video or not
It was a "splash" pick to end all "splash picks"
A first year GM, new HC, new staff.... New org chart for the franchise??? It might be gay to call it a conspiracy , but what the hell do you call it??? We trade out of 4 - pass on the best WR ...knowing all along Gordon will be gone.?? unexplainable. It's a nice distraction for farmer as well.... We blew it....farmer was betting on another top receiver being there after his trade...so they went DB. From that point on it was "shock the world Thursday night, then tank the draft" ... Everyone is happy. 4-12
Try to win next year....what's another season ?. Really ?
Bermeck (tired of losing)
Stupid video or not
It was a "splash" pick to end all "splash picks"
A first year GM, new HC, new staff.... New org chart for the franchise??? It might be gay to call it a conspiracy , but what the hell do you call it??? We trade out of 4 - pass on the best WR ...knowing all along Gordon will be gone.?? unexplainable. It's a nice distraction for farmer as well.... We blew it....farmer was betting on another top receiver being there after his trade...so they went DB. From that point on it was "shock the world Thursday night, then tank the draft" ... Everyone is happy. 4-12
Try to win next year....what's another season ?. Really ?
Bermeck (tired of losing)
Tired of losing? It sounds like your hoping for it.
Whether you think you can, or you think can't, you're right.
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The negativity is just about to the point of being downright stupid! Are the Browns going to win the Super Bowl this season? Uh...no! So, rather than tank the draft by trying to replace Gordon with a rookie for 1 season, they stuck to their plan and filled pretty much every other hole they had. This team is loaded with talent. And they still don't know the severity of Gordon's looming suspension. None of us know even half the details. This could be a situation that gets overturned on appeal or reduced suspension. If the Gordon situation was not in play, then you all would be praising Farmer for this draft! Have a little faith and support your team and management group!
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Who gives a flying fuck. Manziel is the choice. Quit acting like a bunch of bitches.
very ironic with that particular post.....lmao.Who gives a flying fuck. Manziel is the choice. Quit acting like a bunch of bitches.
Did it hurt your feewings cause he isn't getting the dstartinf nods a few days after the draft?
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I understand the optimism, trust me, I do
But when week 1 gets here...and we can't score 10 points- against a shitty steeler defense...we will all be pissed.
I figured we would start 1-3... Realistic...now, without a big-time threat outside- and the introduction of JF (who you know everyone wants to face plant)... 0-4 looking you right in the face...and the prospect of YET another 4 win season
Maybe I'm getting older....freakin had it.
Bermeck (the teams that dedicate to the run can't, won't... Win anymore...not consistently ...our D is good, but not dominating)
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I understand the optimism, trust me, I do
But when week 1 gets here...and we can't score 10 points- against a shitty steeler defense...we will all be pissed.
I figured we would start 1-3... Realistic...now, without a big-time threat outside- and the introduction of JF (who you know everyone wants to face plant)... 0-4 looking you right in the face...and the prospect of YET another 4 win season
Maybe I'm getting older....freakin had it.
Bermeck (the teams that dedicate to the run can't, won't... Win anymore...not consistently ...our D is good, but not dominating)
I understand the optimism, trust me, I do
But when week 1 gets here...and we can't score 10 points- against a shitty steeler defense...we will all be pissed.
I figured we would start 1-3... Realistic...now, without a big-time threat outside- and the introduction of JF (who you know everyone wants to face plant)... 0-4 looking you right in the face...and the prospect of YET another 4 win season
Maybe I'm getting older....freakin had it.
Bermeck (the teams that dedicate to the run can't, won't... Win anymore...not consistently ...our D is good, but not dominating)
Look, I'm as bummed as anyone that Josh Gordon might be out next year but how many games did we win with our big time threat outside? Four, and the reason for that was because we couldn't run the damn football, leading to an inability to keep the other offense off the field, which led to a gassed defense that routinely collapsed in the fourth quarter.
And ther is still a possibility that Gordon won't be out of all next season:
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The amusing part is that the OP called it a "hard hitting documentary"
I am not actually certain if I have ever seen a bigger piece of fluff in my life.
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I mean, he DOES need to beat Hoyer out. Right now Hoyer is the starter. You DO want the player who gives you the best chance to win on the field correct?
That being said. I dont believe it will take Johnny long AT ALL to beat him out. He's been cut from 3 teams without a damaged knee. And thats CUT, as in, he didn't make the three deep depth chart.
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Should have read the comments on this thread before wasting five minutes of my life
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When you Johnny Lovers post videos like this, it doesn't help your case. I saw lots of things in that video that in the NFL will 1) get him killed, 2) turn the ball over, 3) ultimately be a bust............... The more I see these montages the more I wish we would have taken Carr in the 2nd.
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Enjoy:
AWESOME!!!!
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Out of all of the Johnny Football highlight videos I have seen, this one probably most exemplifies why someone would think JF will be a bust in the NFL, lol.
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Yeah D Bone... That's the same thing we said when he came to A&M. He lead all QB's last year with a 73.5% completion % from the pocket. He's a smart dude. He'll adapt and adjust his game.
If you said the same thing we are saying now, then clearly he never did adjust.
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Mods - can we combine all these "New fan here, JF is AMAZING!!" threads?
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When you Johnny Lovers post videos like this, it doesn't help your case. I saw lots of things in that video that in the NFL will 1) get him killed, 2) turn the ball over, 3) ultimately be a bust............... The more I see these montages the more I wish we would have taken Carr in the 2nd.
When you Johnny Lovers post videos like this, it doesn't help your case. I saw lots of things in that video that in the NFL will 1) get him killed, 2) turn the ball over, 3) ultimately be a bust............... The more I see these montages the more I wish we would have taken Carr in the 2nd.
^+1 Not necessarily Carr, but I wouldn't have been upset with Bridgewater.
Yeah D Bone... That's the same thing we said when he came to A&M. He lead all QB's last year with a 73.5% completion % from the pocket. He's a smart dude. He'll adapt and adjust his game.
If he doesn't he won't even last as long as RG III, it will only take one of those extreme cuts at the wrong time to get a blown out knee- and that will take away his #1 asset, mobility. BTW, he throws a ton of off balance passes that are interceptions waiting to happen in the NFL. Manziel was clocked at what 4.6? Most of the slow NFL corners run a 4.5.
Out of all of the Johnny Football highlight videos I have seen, this one probably most exemplifies why someone would think JF will be a bust in the NFL, lol.
The fanboys see what they want to see.
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Not hating on Manziel, just getting bored with having to trawl through the endless threads about him. We did pick a bunch of other guys - it's interesting to think about how Pettine's D is going to be set up, using Gilbert and Haden as shutdown corners, who's going to be responsible for shutting down the run if and when the RB gets to the edge since apparently that's not the CB's job. We also have a bit of a WR problem, and we've got a bunch of nobodies trying to be the guy - can any of them step up?
Manziel's game will either translate to the NFL and he'll be a superstar, or it won't and he'll be a bust. We'll know in 6 months which it is.
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I'll be honest, before the draft, some may remember that I had "Anyone But Johnny Scramble" as my signature. I would've hated the pick at #4, but what we did at 4 (player and extra 1st round pick) and where we ultimately took Johnny, was perfectly fine with me. I believe he is worth the risk at 22.
That being said, I just don't know if his play (could care less about his persona and everything else that surrounds him) is going to translate in the NFL. I hope it does with every fiber of my body as I am tired of loving a loser.
"Most" of us think he will either be the next HoF QB, or the next Eric Zeier. I am in neither camp and am filled 50/50 with high hopes, and fear. I will root for Johnny when he gets his chance, just like I root for anyone wearing the orange, brown and white laundry.
In the end, history will be the only one that tells Johnny's story. Some of us will proclaim ourselves as geniuses, while others simply forget what they said about him. Hopefully my hope wins out, and kicks the crap out of my fear.
I agree completely... I do not think he is ready to play yet and even if Hoyer isn't ready on day 1, the other backups should start in front of him.
He needs to play hard in the Pre-Season and understand how much faster the NFL is going to be. I think they should let him start at least once with the first team(maybe 3rd or 4th game) just so he can see how fast and how punishing those DB's can be and maybe he will learn to find the open man, instead of running.
he needs work, no doubt...
BobPOunds!
@everlastingxxx said:
I am a long time (disgruntled) Cowboys fan and i have never been into college football until one day i saw Manziel on tv and i was amazed at the plays he makes. Most exciting player i have ever seen. He makes the game fun. Very envious because i honestly thought he was staying in Texas. Alot of dissappointed Cowboys and Texan fans.
On a side note, i think he should sit the first year. Calm the hype down a little, let him mature and learn. Romo sat for 3 seasons before his first start. Keep building the pieces around him.
The problem is the 2,000 people that bought season tickets (presumably to see JF play) are going to be screaming for him the second Hoyer throws an interception.
I agree completely... I do not think he is ready to play yet and even if Hoyer isn't ready on day 1, the other backups should start in front of him.
He needs to play hard in the Pre-Season and understand how much faster the NFL is going to be. I think they should let him start at least once with the first team(maybe 3rd or 4th game) just so he can see how fast and how punishing those DB's can be and maybe he will learn to find the open man, instead of running.
he needs work, no doubt...
BobPOunds!
Yes JF, you only need to be unelusive but once to get seriously hurt.
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