New Browns Fans Introduce Yourselves

TexasAggies

Howdy y'all,

I was directed to this site at the suggestion of a very good friend who has been a lifelong Browns fan who recently completed his PhD at Texas A&M and is now a professor in Florida.

I'm a proud Fightin' Texas Aggie, a former Cowboys fan, and newest member of the Cleveland Browns fanbase. Having followed the Cowboys faithfully since the early 1980's, I've finally reached my threshold for Jerry Jones' piss poor leadership and management. Not that y'all care, but he has repeatedly violated the fanbase, and this fan has made the decision to end that foolish nonsense. That, combined with Johnny's arrival in Cleveland, plus the loyalty of the Browns fanbase made the decision easy.

I personally attended every home game Johnny Manziel ever played in college, and was somewhere between floored, inspired, and speechless (in the best way imaginable) to witness the overwhelming Browns family response to Johnny's selection. Your excitement will be affirmed and exponentially grown once you see him play in-person! The guy is unbelievable.

The Texas Aggie fanbase has a lot more in common with you guys than you likely realize, but I simply want to say hello and I look forward to getting up to speed. I've already bought my Browns Manziel jersey to proudly wear in Texas. I hope you guys tailgate in the fall...I need somewhere to go when I fly up for a game this Fall.

Gig'em, God Bless, and Go Browns!

choco

Smh.....so this is what its gonna be like for now on.

I might as well take my own advice and take a break until the bandwagon gets lighter. The intertubes are gonna be unreadable with all the bandwagoners around.

jcam222

Welcome aboard and disregard some of the lukewarm welcomes. As you can imagine there has been an influx jumping on. I believe some of you are here to stay and thats cool.

Zombo

@cobra-kai said:

1) XVIDEO.COM

2) I usually start about the breasts, chest, neck, and head.

3) They're the Browns. That's usually obstacle #1.

4) I don't follow Twitter. It makes me want to punch babies.

5) Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

6) I can play the guitar like a mother fuckin' riot.

2) How do you feel about the new coach/GM?

2) I usually start about the breasts, chest, neck, and head.

Gold ...

Z

JAFBF

@everlastingxxx said:

Haha, we moved to Katy a few months ago from Victoria Tx. Outside of Greater Houston the rest of the state is Cowboy fans although the gap is closing a little more every year. But yea, they do love their Texans here. Thanks!

Small world.

My wife's from Victoria.

TexasAg1969

"The real question would be what would he choose as his forum handle? "

I'd suggest "Johnnybegood".

supertruck97

I agree with a LOT of this article. Why is the organization trying so hard to downplay Johnny, while every other team is talking up their 1st round pick as the 2nd coming?

http://www.bettingsports.com/browns-continue-to-be-really-weird-about-johnny-manziel/

Despite decades of futility and the strong stench of failure that generally emanates from theCleveland Browns, this team actually managed to generate some positive buzz by selecting Texas A&M superstar quarterback Johnny Manziel No. 22 overall in the 2014 NFL Draft. It’s been less than a week, but somehow the luster continues to fade with each passing day.

Not content to leave (better than) well enough alone, it seems the Browns organization has gone out of its way this week to rain on its own parade. They’re urinating in their own Wheaties. They’re collecting black flies for their own glasses of Chardonnay.

First came Haslam’s supremely unnecessary comments aimed, for some unknown reason, at putting Manziel in his place. Said Cleveland’s criminally inclined owner, “We were frank with [Manziel] on Friday that’s the expectation, you’re the backup. This is a hard-working, blue-collar town, this isn’t Hollywood. We want you to come in and go to work.”

While his message was reasonable enough, the tone and delivery were excessively harsh. There are ways to say the exact same thing without completely insulting Manziel, inferring that he’s lazy and too caught up in his own celebrity to bother showing up for work.

Texas Aggie

Hello all, this is my first post on this message board. As my username suggests, I'm an A&M grad that is the newest Browns fan after the Manziel pick. I grew up in Houston and the Oilers left town when I was around 10 years old, so I didn't follow the NFL much after that and got into A&M football. With Manziel heading to Cleveland, I now have an NFL team to follow. Really looking forward to it, and from what I can tell browsing some topics, this looks like a great forum.

I'm posting this topic because I'd like to talk about Manziel's passing ability, which is often overlooked and under-discussed. If someone didn't know who Johnny Manziel is, they'd watch ESPN (particularly that fake hair bumbling idiot Kiper) and assume Manziel is simply an athlete playing QB who can't throw, someone in the mold of Denard Robinson or Eric Crouch. But if you look at the stats, that couldn't be further from the truth. What's really remarkable about these stats is A&M had a top 10 strength of schedule each year in the most difficult conference in the country.

Here are Manziel's 2012 (RS freshman) passing stats, with the national rank in parentheses beside it.

Completion % - 68.0 (T-8th)

Yards - 3706 (T-15th)

Yards/att - 8.5 (T-12th)

TD - 26 (T-24)

INT - 9

TD/INT - 2.9

QB rating - 155.3 (15th)

His 2013 stats are even better.

Completion % - 69.9 (4th)

Yards - 4114 (8th)

Yards/att - 9.6 (4th)

TD - 34 (T-4)

INT - 13

TD/INT - 2.6

QB rating - 172.9 (3rd)

I've never seen or heard any of those numbers from any form of sports media. They all seem to feed off of each other and continue the mindless banter about how Manziel won't be able to run in the NFL, how he has a weak arm and can't make all the throws, etc. It's ridiclous. I'm not sure if any of y'all were able to watch his pro day workout, but it was incredibly impressive.

I understand why they focus on his running/scrambling ability. It's rare for a QB and he has created some incredible plays by doing just that. But to completely ignore the passing part of his game is an injustice to Johnny. I can see the casual fan not understanding how good of a passer he is, but for these experts, it's their job to mention that stuff.

I've watched every college snap from Manziel and he's one of the most talented football players I've ever seen. Fiercely competitive and hates to lose more than anything. I think y'all got a great one and I can't wait to see how he develops to prove the naysayers wrong.

TexasAg1969

Welcome to South Marginal(ized) Road Johnny.

Texas Aggie

@the-gipper said:

Quoting a college QBs statistics is not necessarily that illustrative of that players ability to make is as a QB in the NFL.

I suggest that most of the most renowned QB busts in the past had outstanding college stats....Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russell et al.

Now, to me JFFs biggest asset is his chutzpah. It has to be given his frame. His innate football intellect goes hand in hand with that.

I agree with you that good college stats do not always translate to NFL QB success. Virtually every QB ever drafted had good numbers in college. But that wasn't the point of my post. I was just trying to point out that Manziel's passing and stats are on par or better with the other QBs in the draft and are better than he gets credit for. For example, Manziel had superior passing stats in virtually every category compared to Bortles (completion %, yards, yds/att, TD/INT ratio, passer rating) but I doubt that was mentioned at all in any media outlet. All they focused on was "he can't run like that and take hits in the NFL" (which I agree with), but completely ignored his passing game.

TXDawg

@sienn13 said:
Don't see a problem with how there handling him. He needs a reality check!

This makes zero sense to me.

TexasAg1969

New SI Cover-I like the "Johnny (better) Be Good" reference.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazine/photos/1401/si-covers-2014/3/

Vinz Clortho

Johnny came in and saved us after the lost decade of Aggie Football. Now he will fulfill his destiny of reviving another storied franchise that has lost its way. Get ready to say things about your team you haven't in years, because Johnny will improve the entire team, not just the QB position.

If you haven't yet, go and watch the replay of the Chick Fil A bowl from this year, and watch Johnny put an entire team on his back and come back from a record deficit.

Vinz Clortho

@the-gipper said:
I thought Ryan Tannehill did that. I mean, hell, he was an A&M Qb drafted a lot higher than JFF, no?

Tannehill was decent. Unfortunately, under Sherman all he ever did was throw a 12 yard hitch. Went 6-6 in his final year when we were preseason top 5, routinely gave up double digit leads in the 2nd half. He's a great kid and a good QB. He can't hold Johnny's jock.

Vinz Clortho

A shitty jackass off the field? Why? Because he drank when he was in college?

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@vinz-clortho said:
A shitty jackass off the field? Why? Because he drank when he was in college?

Yeah. Exactly.

He drank and slept in through meetings. Just like any college kid would do.

College kids are shitty jackasses. All of them. Especially the athletes. I'm one and I don't deny it.

Vinz Clortho

Ok I can agree with that. He's no shittier than any other male college jackass would have been in his situation.

At least he's not getting BJs from 14 year olds like the Bengals draft pick out of LSU.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@vinz-clortho said:

Ok I can agree with that. He's no shittier than any other male college jackass would have been in his situation.

At least he's not getting BJs from 14 year olds like the Bengals draft pick out of LSU.

Exactly.

Coupled with the fact that he's a privileged rich boy and he's the top of his sport.

H-Town Brown

Thanks for the twitter handles.

Xvideo.com should keep me busy for a while also.

And if we are gonna talk about cheerleaders can we at least post some freaking pictures?

gftChris

@h-town-brown said:

Thanks for the twitter handles.

Xvideo.com should keep me busy for a while also.

And if we are gonna talk about cheerleaders can we at least post some freaking pictures?

Scroll page a few pages, it got buried by the draft but there's a thread that'll keep you occupied for a while.