NFL To Reduce Pot Discipline
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I'm saying if the NFL reduced their pot discipline and reduced the penalty maybe those that got hit under the old sanctions would catch a break
I'm saying if the NFL reduced their pot discipline and reduced the penalty maybe those that got hit under the old sanctions would catch a break
Oh ok. I agree to an extent. I think if punishment has already been given they won't hut I think if there are failed tests from before any change and an appeal happens after the change they would punish them based on the new rules.
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it'd be considered 'grandfathered in' wouldn't it?
those who want to catch a break because they were there and don't have to pay up to the new standard (like rent control) always use the grandfather clause. so in this case i would think even if the NFL does change it's policy (which i don't see happening anytime soon) gordon would still get the full fist fuck from the NFL.
with no lubrication this time.
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Well I haven't heard an official punishment being handed down yet. If they make this change before the official punishment is handed down I could see Gordon being subjected to the new punishments.
I don't think it's likely but that's what I'm hoping for.
The fact that this information was leaked against protocol could result in some leniency as well.
Even more not likely but plausible.
And if we want to go the conspiracy theory route, it would more than likely be in the NFL's best interest to have their new potential golden boy (JF) have his most dynamic weapon available when he hits the field, say after the bye week?
Incredibly unlikely but if it does happen you guys can start calling me Nostrodomus.
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it'd be considered 'grandfathered in' wouldn't it?
those who want to catch a break because they were there and don't have to pay up to the new standard (like rent control) always use the grandfather clause. so in this case i would think even if the NFL does change it's policy (which i don't see happening anytime soon) gordon would still get the full fist fuck from the NFL.
with no lubrication this time.
it'd be considered 'grandfathered in' wouldn't it?
those who want to catch a break because they were there and don't have to pay up to the new standard (like rent control) always use the grandfather clause. so in this case i would think even if the NFL does change it's policy (which i don't see happening anytime soon) gordon would still get the full fist fuck from the NFL.
with no lubrication this time.
I think this ultimately should and will help Josh. Grandfathering is a mechanism that generally applies to maintaining a benefit that no longer exists. It doesn't exist to apply a punishment that no one thinks of as being fair. There is a big difference between the two.
If the NFL is reviewing its policy because the punishments are, disproportionate, overly harsh and out of touch with modern reality, there would be a strong argument that it is unjust to apply the old penalty simply because an offense was committed under the old rules. The NFL is basically admitting that the old rules were unfair.
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If not......
......Nostradumbass!
WSS
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If not......
......Nostradumbass!
WSS
If not......
......Nostradumbass!
WSS
I guess it's better then just plain ole dumbass.
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If not......
......Nostradumbass!
WSS
I guess it's better then just plain ole dumbass.
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Speech to text?
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Nope. I thought about putting a space between the dumb and ass but that's about it.
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Speech to text?
WSS
Nope. I thought about putting a space between the dumb and ass but that's about it.
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No; even more minor..
Then for than...
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Eh tomato, tomato.
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it'd be considered 'grandfathered in' wouldn't it?
those who want to catch a break because they were there and don't have to pay up to the new standard (like rent control) always use the grandfather clause. so in this case i would think even if the NFL does change it's policy (which i don't see happening anytime soon) gordon would still get the full fist fuck from the NFL.
with no lubrication this time.
I think this ultimately should and will help Josh. Grandfathering is a mechanism that generally applies to maintaining a benefit that no longer exists. It doesn't exist to apply a punishment that no one thinks of as being fair. There is a big difference between the two.
If the NFL is reviewing its policy because the punishments are, disproportionate, overly harsh and out of touch with modern reality, there would be a strong argument that it is unjust to apply the old penalty simply because an offense was committed under the old rules. The NFL is basically admitting that the old rules were unfair.
I think this ultimately should and will help Josh. Grandfathering is a mechanism that generally applies to maintaining a benefit that no longer exists. It doesn't exist to apply a punishment that no one thinks of as being fair. There is a big difference between the two.
If the NFL is reviewing its policy because the punishments are, disproportionate, overly harsh and out of touch with modern reality, there would be a strong argument that it is unjust to apply the old penalty simply because an offense was committed under the old rules. The NFL is basically admitting that the old rules were unfair.
Agreed. Like when the death penalty was removed in the State of California sometime in the 70's (but reinstated later I believe), which is why Charles Mansion is still with us today.
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A source said.... This is not a done deal as the OP headline seems to indicate. I doubt he even read the article.
A source said.... This is not a done deal as the OP headline seems to indicate.
Note: Also did not read ESPN.go article since that site imbeds tracking beyond the usual cookies most sites use. Takes a virus sweep to remove ESPN.go tracking...
Yup... all balled up in a package of revised testing negotiations between NFL and NFLPA. Big sticking point I've heard of is NFLPA balking at HGH related changes.
In addition to changing the THC action level to eliminate passive exposure positives as it's been reported Josh is claiming, there also seems to be some discussion of a medical exemption for prescribed cannabis. Where legalization/ decriminalization is in its infancy, medical marijuana is well, and more widely, established. There are currently 21 states plus DC where medical marijuana is legal.
I think this ultimately should and will help Josh. Grandfathering is a mechanism that generally applies to maintaining a benefit that no longer exists. It doesn't exist to apply a punishment that no one thinks of as being fair. There is a big difference between the two.
Agree...
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According to Mike Florio yesterday on DP show, "everything is negotiable" when it comes to Josh Gordon's punishment should this new policy pass. It sounded like him being gone the whole year is far from a done deal, especially if the potency of his test falls below what the new testing threshold would deem a positive sample.
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A source said.... This is not a done deal as the OP headline seems to indicate.
Note: Also did not read ESPN.go article since that site imbeds tracking beyond the usual cookies most sites use. Takes a virus sweep to remove ESPN.go tracking...
Yup... all balled up in a package of revised testing negotiations between NFL and NFLPA. Big sticking point I've heard of is NFLPA balking at HGH related changes.
In addition to changing the THC action level to eliminate passive exposure positives as it's been reported Josh is claiming, there also seems to be some discussion of a medical exemption for prescribed cannabis. Where legalization/ decriminalization is in its infancy, medical marijuana is well, and more widely, established. There are currently 21 states plus DC where medical marijuana is legal.
I think this ultimately should and will help Josh. Grandfathering is a mechanism that generally applies to maintaining a benefit that no longer exists. It doesn't exist to apply a punishment that no one thinks of as being fair. There is a big difference between the two.
Agree...
Note: Also did not read ESPN.go article since that site imbeds tracking beyond the usual cookies most sites use. Takes a virus sweep to remove ESPN.go tracking...
I use betterprivacy an addon for firefox... I'm sure other browers have the same or similar versions... it removes all lso supercookies when you close out your browser.
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According to Mike Florio yesterday on DP show, "everything is negotiable" when it comes to Josh Gordon's punishment should this new policy pass. It sounded like him being gone the whole year is far from a done deal, especially if the potency of his test falls below what the new testing threshold would deem a positive sample.
According to Mike Florio yesterday on DP show, "everything is negotiable" when it comes to Josh Gordon's punishment should this new policy pass. It sounded like him being gone the whole year is far from a done deal, especially if the potency of his test falls below what the new testing threshold would deem a positive sample.
My thought process is this. He is getting tested somewhere around once a month. If he tested for a very small amount of THC instead of a moderate to large ammount I could see him getting a reduced suspension regardless cause he might be able to argue that he was around it but not smoking it which is still dumb on his part but not worth a fun season ban.
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Note: Also did not read ESPN.go article since that site imbeds tracking beyond the usual cookies most sites use. Takes a virus sweep to remove ESPN.go tracking...
I use betterprivacy an addon for firefox... I'm sure other browers have the same or similar versions... it removes all lso supercookies when you close out your browser.
I use betterprivacy an addon for firefox... I'm sure other browers have the same or similar versions... it removes all lso supercookies when you close out your browser.
Cool... what's "browser"?
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It's bullshit if they do lax their standards. If I have weed in my system and I fail a test I get fired. These assholes GET PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS and still don't stop smoking it. Fuck anyone who wants this change. These assholes deserve to get suspended and lose money. Where does this fucking sense of entitlement come from? These guys play football. They do nothing important and don't change the world one but. Why should they get off easy? Fuck em. News flash: ITS FUCKING ILLEGAL. Stop bitching.
There. Rant over.
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Shut the fuck up you bitter son of a bitch. You are NOT Josh Gordon. The hopes of an entire city don't rest on your shoulders. Pompous ass hole. Why should they be suspended from a game if they are not violating the game in any way. They are not using preforming enhancing drugs to bolster their advantage, they are not getting high during games on the sidelines. We are fucking talking about a player, maybe enjoying some time off, maybe he was in Amsterdam- where it IS perfectly LEGAL to do so. How can you suspend him and discipline him when he comes back to America? Huh? Answer that you fucking JACKWACK.
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Shut the fuck up you bitter son of a bitch. You are NOT Josh Gordon. The hopes of an entire city don't rest on your shoulders. Pompous ass hole. Why should they be suspended from a game if they are not violating the game in any way. They are not using preforming enhancing drugs to bolster their advantage, they are not getting high during games on the sidelines. We are fucking talking about a player, maybe enjoying some time off, maybe he was in Amsterdam- where it IS perfectly LEGAL to do so. How can you suspend him and discipline him when he comes back to America? Huh? Answer that you fucking JACKWACK.
Haha wow. Are you really trying to say that if someone goes to another country he is free from the restrains of work requirements? That's probably the dumbest argument I've ever heard... Including the argument that Derek Carr will be worth a shit.Shut the fuck up you bitter son of a bitch. You are NOT Josh Gordon. The hopes of an entire city don't rest on your shoulders. Pompous ass hole. Why should they be suspended from a game if they are not violating the game in any way. They are not using preforming enhancing drugs to bolster their advantage, they are not getting high during games on the sidelines. We are fucking talking about a player, maybe enjoying some time off, maybe he was in Amsterdam- where it IS perfectly LEGAL to do so. How can you suspend him and discipline him when he comes back to America? Huh? Answer that you fucking JACKWACK.
It doesn't matter how much time you have off or where you are. Everyone in the NFL knows what happens if you smoke weed. Everyone. He's a dumbass who thought he was untouchable. He's an even bigger dumbass seeing as he tested positive once and knows that he gets tested more than others. He's selfish. He chose to smoke weed and he deserves his punishment. I could care less if it's performance enhancing or not. It's against the rules and the law. You're a fucking dipshit for thinking otherwise. Go blow a goat, shiteater.
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