NFL To Reduce Pot Discipline
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If not......
......Nostradumbass!
WSS
I guess it's better then just plain ole dumbass.
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Speech to text?
WSS
Nope. I thought about putting a space between the dumb and ass but that's about it.
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Speech to text?
WSS
Nope. I thought about putting a space between the dumb and ass but that's about it.
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No; even more minor..
Then for than...
WSS
Eh tomato, tomato.
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it'd be considered 'grandfathered in' wouldn't it?
those who want to catch a break because they were there and don't have to pay up to the new standard (like rent control) always use the grandfather clause. so in this case i would think even if the NFL does change it's policy (which i don't see happening anytime soon) gordon would still get the full fist fuck from the NFL.
with no lubrication this time.
I think this ultimately should and will help Josh. Grandfathering is a mechanism that generally applies to maintaining a benefit that no longer exists. It doesn't exist to apply a punishment that no one thinks of as being fair. There is a big difference between the two.
If the NFL is reviewing its policy because the punishments are, disproportionate, overly harsh and out of touch with modern reality, there would be a strong argument that it is unjust to apply the old penalty simply because an offense was committed under the old rules. The NFL is basically admitting that the old rules were unfair.
I think this ultimately should and will help Josh. Grandfathering is a mechanism that generally applies to maintaining a benefit that no longer exists. It doesn't exist to apply a punishment that no one thinks of as being fair. There is a big difference between the two.
If the NFL is reviewing its policy because the punishments are, disproportionate, overly harsh and out of touch with modern reality, there would be a strong argument that it is unjust to apply the old penalty simply because an offense was committed under the old rules. The NFL is basically admitting that the old rules were unfair.
Agreed. Like when the death penalty was removed in the State of California sometime in the 70's (but reinstated later I believe), which is why Charles Mansion is still with us today.
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A source said.... This is not a done deal as the OP headline seems to indicate. I doubt he even read the article.
A source said.... This is not a done deal as the OP headline seems to indicate.
Note: Also did not read ESPN.go article since that site imbeds tracking beyond the usual cookies most sites use. Takes a virus sweep to remove ESPN.go tracking...
Yup... all balled up in a package of revised testing negotiations between NFL and NFLPA. Big sticking point I've heard of is NFLPA balking at HGH related changes.
In addition to changing the THC action level to eliminate passive exposure positives as it's been reported Josh is claiming, there also seems to be some discussion of a medical exemption for prescribed cannabis. Where legalization/ decriminalization is in its infancy, medical marijuana is well, and more widely, established. There are currently 21 states plus DC where medical marijuana is legal.
I think this ultimately should and will help Josh. Grandfathering is a mechanism that generally applies to maintaining a benefit that no longer exists. It doesn't exist to apply a punishment that no one thinks of as being fair. There is a big difference between the two.
Agree...
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According to Mike Florio yesterday on DP show, "everything is negotiable" when it comes to Josh Gordon's punishment should this new policy pass. It sounded like him being gone the whole year is far from a done deal, especially if the potency of his test falls below what the new testing threshold would deem a positive sample.
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A source said.... This is not a done deal as the OP headline seems to indicate.
Note: Also did not read ESPN.go article since that site imbeds tracking beyond the usual cookies most sites use. Takes a virus sweep to remove ESPN.go tracking...
Yup... all balled up in a package of revised testing negotiations between NFL and NFLPA. Big sticking point I've heard of is NFLPA balking at HGH related changes.
In addition to changing the THC action level to eliminate passive exposure positives as it's been reported Josh is claiming, there also seems to be some discussion of a medical exemption for prescribed cannabis. Where legalization/ decriminalization is in its infancy, medical marijuana is well, and more widely, established. There are currently 21 states plus DC where medical marijuana is legal.
I think this ultimately should and will help Josh. Grandfathering is a mechanism that generally applies to maintaining a benefit that no longer exists. It doesn't exist to apply a punishment that no one thinks of as being fair. There is a big difference between the two.
Agree...
Note: Also did not read ESPN.go article since that site imbeds tracking beyond the usual cookies most sites use. Takes a virus sweep to remove ESPN.go tracking...
I use betterprivacy an addon for firefox... I'm sure other browers have the same or similar versions... it removes all lso supercookies when you close out your browser.
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According to Mike Florio yesterday on DP show, "everything is negotiable" when it comes to Josh Gordon's punishment should this new policy pass. It sounded like him being gone the whole year is far from a done deal, especially if the potency of his test falls below what the new testing threshold would deem a positive sample.
According to Mike Florio yesterday on DP show, "everything is negotiable" when it comes to Josh Gordon's punishment should this new policy pass. It sounded like him being gone the whole year is far from a done deal, especially if the potency of his test falls below what the new testing threshold would deem a positive sample.
My thought process is this. He is getting tested somewhere around once a month. If he tested for a very small amount of THC instead of a moderate to large ammount I could see him getting a reduced suspension regardless cause he might be able to argue that he was around it but not smoking it which is still dumb on his part but not worth a fun season ban.
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Note: Also did not read ESPN.go article since that site imbeds tracking beyond the usual cookies most sites use. Takes a virus sweep to remove ESPN.go tracking...
I use betterprivacy an addon for firefox... I'm sure other browers have the same or similar versions... it removes all lso supercookies when you close out your browser.
I use betterprivacy an addon for firefox... I'm sure other browers have the same or similar versions... it removes all lso supercookies when you close out your browser.
Cool... what's "browser"?
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It's bullshit if they do lax their standards. If I have weed in my system and I fail a test I get fired. These assholes GET PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS and still don't stop smoking it. Fuck anyone who wants this change. These assholes deserve to get suspended and lose money. Where does this fucking sense of entitlement come from? These guys play football. They do nothing important and don't change the world one but. Why should they get off easy? Fuck em. News flash: ITS FUCKING ILLEGAL. Stop bitching.
There. Rant over.
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Shut the fuck up you bitter son of a bitch. You are NOT Josh Gordon. The hopes of an entire city don't rest on your shoulders. Pompous ass hole. Why should they be suspended from a game if they are not violating the game in any way. They are not using preforming enhancing drugs to bolster their advantage, they are not getting high during games on the sidelines. We are fucking talking about a player, maybe enjoying some time off, maybe he was in Amsterdam- where it IS perfectly LEGAL to do so. How can you suspend him and discipline him when he comes back to America? Huh? Answer that you fucking JACKWACK.
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Shut the fuck up you bitter son of a bitch. You are NOT Josh Gordon. The hopes of an entire city don't rest on your shoulders. Pompous ass hole. Why should they be suspended from a game if they are not violating the game in any way. They are not using preforming enhancing drugs to bolster their advantage, they are not getting high during games on the sidelines. We are fucking talking about a player, maybe enjoying some time off, maybe he was in Amsterdam- where it IS perfectly LEGAL to do so. How can you suspend him and discipline him when he comes back to America? Huh? Answer that you fucking JACKWACK.
Haha wow. Are you really trying to say that if someone goes to another country he is free from the restrains of work requirements? That's probably the dumbest argument I've ever heard... Including the argument that Derek Carr will be worth a shit.Shut the fuck up you bitter son of a bitch. You are NOT Josh Gordon. The hopes of an entire city don't rest on your shoulders. Pompous ass hole. Why should they be suspended from a game if they are not violating the game in any way. They are not using preforming enhancing drugs to bolster their advantage, they are not getting high during games on the sidelines. We are fucking talking about a player, maybe enjoying some time off, maybe he was in Amsterdam- where it IS perfectly LEGAL to do so. How can you suspend him and discipline him when he comes back to America? Huh? Answer that you fucking JACKWACK.
It doesn't matter how much time you have off or where you are. Everyone in the NFL knows what happens if you smoke weed. Everyone. He's a dumbass who thought he was untouchable. He's an even bigger dumbass seeing as he tested positive once and knows that he gets tested more than others. He's selfish. He chose to smoke weed and he deserves his punishment. I could care less if it's performance enhancing or not. It's against the rules and the law. You're a fucking dipshit for thinking otherwise. Go blow a goat, shiteater.
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It's bullshit if they do lax their standards. If I have weed in my system and I fail a test I get fired. These assholes GET PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS and still don't stop smoking it. Fuck anyone who wants this change. These assholes deserve to get suspended and lose money. Where does this fucking sense of entitlement come from? These guys play football. They do nothing important and don't change the world one but. Why should they get off easy? Fuck em. News flash: ITS FUCKING ILLEGAL. Stop bitching.
There. Rant over.
It's bullshit if they do lax their standards. If I have weed in my system and I fail a test I get fired. These assholes GET PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS and still don't stop smoking it. Fuck anyone who wants this change. These assholes deserve to get suspended and lose money. Where does this fucking sense of entitlement come from? These guys play football. They do nothing important and don't change the world one but. Why should they get off easy? Fuck em. News flash: ITS FUCKING ILLEGAL. Stop bitching.
There. Rant over.
Unless your some kind of doctor or full time charity worker, I doubt you do anywhere near the world changing things that a lot of professional athletes do. We see them on the field or court, but most also spend shit loads of time helping out their communities, both where they grew up and in the city they play in.
Mind you that is not be disagreeing with you about Gordon being an idiot, even though I disagree and think the rules should be changed to better reflect how our country is starting to see pot, but rather my thoughts on how little you think of athletes.
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It's bullshit if they do lax their standards. If I have weed in my system and I fail a test I get fired. These assholes GET PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS and still don't stop smoking it. Fuck anyone who wants this change. These assholes deserve to get suspended and lose money. Where does this fucking sense of entitlement come from? These guys play football. They do nothing important and don't change the world one but. Why should they get off easy? Fuck em. News flash: ITS FUCKING ILLEGAL. Stop bitching.
There. Rant over.
Unless your some kind of doctor or full time charity worker, I doubt you do anywhere near the world changing things that a lot of professional athletes do. We see them on the field or court, but most also spend shit loads of time helping out their communities, both where they grew up and in the city they play in.
Mind you that is not be disagreeing with you about Gordon being an idiot, even though I disagree and think the rules should be changed to better reflect how our country is starting to see pot, but rather my thoughts on how little you think of athletes.
That's true, but most people can do the charity work they do. The money they give is great, but would they really be doing it if they didn't have to? Most probably wouldn't. I'm not saying they're bad guys, but how many of them do it out of the goodness of their hearts? We will never know. I guess I am judging them prematurely. I just see how some (not all) behave and know they care about one person only.Unless your some kind of doctor or full time charity worker, I doubt you do anywhere near the world changing things that a lot of professional athletes do. We see them on the field or court, but most also spend shit loads of time helping out their communities, both where they grew up and in the city they play in.
If the country makes weed legal then yeah, go ahead and smoke it. Have at it. But as of right now, it's illegal and violators will/should be punished. Athlete or not. It's nothing personal against them. It's anyone who break the law.
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That's true, but most people can do the charity work they do. The money they give is great, but would they really be doing it if they didn't have to? Most probably wouldn't. I'm not saying they're bad guys, but how many of them do it out of the goodness of their hearts? We will never know. I guess I am judging them prematurely. I just see how some (not all) behave and know they care about one person only.Unless your some kind of doctor or full time charity worker, I doubt you do anywhere near the world changing things that a lot of professional athletes do. We see them on the field or court, but most also spend shit loads of time helping out their communities, both where they grew up and in the city they play in.
If the country makes weed legal then yeah, go ahead and smoke it. Have at it. But as of right now, it's illegal and violators will/should be punished. Athlete or not. It's nothing personal against them. It's anyone who break the law.
That's true, but most people can do the charity work they do. The money they give is great, but would they really be doing it if they didn't have to? Most probably wouldn't. I'm not saying they're bad guys, but how many of them do it out of the goodness of their hearts? We will never know.
I will agree that over 50% probably wouldn't do anything if they didn't make the money they do, but at the same time, they don't have to do it when they get their money. There is that perception that they have to do some sort of charity, but they don't. They don't have to do make a wish, or volunteer time either. But they do. And alot of those guys, alot of the people we have never heard of, who don't even make it to the NFL, NBA, MLB, still give their time while they are in college and after to help other people out.
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That's true, but most people can do the charity work they do. The money they give is great, but would they really be doing it if they didn't have to? Most probably wouldn't. I'm not saying they're bad guys, but how many of them do it out of the goodness of their hearts? We will never know.
I will agree that over 50% probably wouldn't do anything if they didn't make the money they do, but at the same time, they don't have to do it when they get their money. There is that perception that they have to do some sort of charity, but they don't. They don't have to do make a wish, or volunteer time either. But they do. And alot of those guys, alot of the people we have never heard of, who don't even make it to the NFL, NBA, MLB, still give their time while they are in college and after to help other people out.
Fair point. I have always admired people who grant wishes and take real time out of their days to help others. But some of the soup kitchen/United Way commercials make me sick. Those are apart of their contracts and they have to do them.I will agree that over 50% probably wouldn't do anything if they didn't make the money they do, but at the same time, they don't have to do it when they get their money. There is that perception that they have to do some sort of charity, but they don't. They don't have to do make a wish, or volunteer time either. But they do. And alot of those guys, alot of the people we have never heard of, who don't even make it to the NFL, NBA, MLB, still give their time while they are in college and after to help other people out.
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Shut the fuck up you bitter son of a bitch. You are NOT Josh Gordon. The hopes of an entire city don't rest on your shoulders. Pompous ass hole. Why should they be suspended from a game if they are not violating the game in any way. They are not using preforming enhancing drugs to bolster their advantage, they are not getting high during games on the sidelines. We are fucking talking about a player, maybe enjoying some time off, maybe he was in Amsterdam- where it IS perfectly LEGAL to do so. How can you suspend him and discipline him when he comes back to America? Huh? Answer that you fucking JACKWACK.
Shut the fuck up you bitter son of a bitch. You are NOT Josh Gordon. The hopes of an entire city don't rest on your shoulders. Pompous ass hole. Why should they be suspended from a game if they are not violating the game in any way. They are not using preforming enhancing drugs to bolster their advantage, they are not getting high during games on the sidelines. We are fucking talking about a player, maybe enjoying some time off, maybe he was in Amsterdam- where it IS perfectly LEGAL to do so. How can you suspend him and discipline him when he comes back to America? Huh? Answer that you fucking JACKWACK.
Gee whiz Po, I thought that shit was supposed to mellow you out...
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It's bullshit if they do lax their standards. If I have weed in my system and I fail a test I get fired. These assholes GET PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS and still don't stop smoking it. Fuck anyone who wants this change. These assholes deserve to get suspended and lose money. Where does this fucking sense of entitlement come from? These guys play football. They do nothing important and don't change the world one but. Why should they get off easy? Fuck em. News flash: ITS FUCKING ILLEGAL. Stop bitching.
There. Rant over.
It's bullshit if they do lax their standards. If I have weed in my system and I fail a test I get fired. These assholes GET PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS and still don't stop smoking it. Fuck anyone who wants this change. These assholes deserve to get suspended and lose money. Where does this fucking sense of entitlement come from? These guys play football. They do nothing important and don't change the world one but. Why should they get off easy? Fuck em. News flash: ITS FUCKING ILLEGAL. Stop bitching.
There. Rant over.
Relaxing the standards would be reasonable and in line with scientific data on marijuana and the trends developing in many states. Also, weed isn't illegal everywhere. He wasn't doing this during the game or even the regular season. It isn't performance enhancing or related to the game in any way really. The suspension punishes the team and the fans as much as the player. That is unjust and makes no sense. If a player violates this NFL policy, I say just fine him $100k and move on.
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The rule that smoking weed could get you fired from ANY job is stupid
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