Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Wow! Hardcore! Badass! Johnny Cleveland! Let's go! Super bowl! Best QB!
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If you read the article, it says that Manziel and Loggains were texting back and forth when Manziel sent text about coming to get him. Doesn't sound like it was text sent to others besides Browns.
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"Thats when Haslam made the decision that they were going to trade up to get Johnny Football"
Hopefully the reporter got this wrong, otherwise Haslam is a liar(shocker!) as he's said multiple times he was hands off and let Farmer do his job. Otherwise this move is Jerry Jones like, and that's scary...
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The Cowboys admit they had Manziel as their #1 guy on their board, but they
decided to wait and picked another player.
Johnny Manziel had me not seeing his definite ability to have his skills
translate into Ohio weather.
But the Browns know he certainly can, and has the heart, love for the game, intelligence,
everything, to be the guy. And the story of his friendship with the young man is
icing on the cake of who he is as a person off the field. That friendship was real
about 2 years before anybody knew his name outside of the local folks. That's upper
tier classy.
I have no qualms now about JF. I'm a huge fan, now, and they nabbed him after getting
the top athletic cover corner in the entire draft.., that's smarter than brilliant, whatever the word is for that.
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Who gives a Fuck really??? I help mentally and physically damaged lives every day. Honestly I expect this from everyone who makes more than my six figure job anyways. I expect this from anyone period. WW ur so Michel samm for this guy it's almost too over the top sometimes. U wanted him before the draft I didn't. But guess what he's here now and ALL Browns fans are on the same level as far as being Johnny Football fans. I wanted Joe Thomas 2 yrs before he was drafted but once the Browns drafted him I didn't have to walk around beating my chest and act like I had actually done or won something myself. If he ends up sucking I'm sure Ull be the one that says Well what did u expect from him being drafted by the Browns.
WW ur so Michel samm for this guy it's almost too over the top sometimes. U wanted him before the draft I didn't. But guess what he's here now and ALL Browns fans are on the same level as far as being Johnny Football fans. I wanted Joe Thomas 2 yrs before he was drafted but once the Browns drafted him I didn't have to walk around beating my chest and act like I had actually done or won something myself. If he ends up sucking I'm sure Ull be the one that says Well what did u expect from him being drafted by the Browns.
CD- guess what? WW ain't listening. He's a far worse JF fannyboy (gee, I like that misspelling- it was an accident, honest) than PG ever was with Richardson & McCoy. Sort of getting annoying.
@walterwhite said:
Good, gives him even more attitude and edge.
Rogers fell, Brees fell, Wilson fell, tons of great QB's took a fall.
If Manziel blossoms into what we all think he can be, it's going to be entertaining watching Jerry Jones dwell into misery.
Not to mention, he's going to be the most exciting player in the NFL
Again- that's your perception- it's what you think . Some of us want to see it for real- and for more than a couple of games- before we say wow, great pick.
Who wants Manziel to fail? He is a Brown now, and while a lot are worried that he will flop, I don't think any browns fan would want to see another wasted first round pick. I really hope I do end up loving Johnny, but he'll have to earn it.
Exactly, & that's what Walter seemingly can't get through his thick head. The analogy would be- my horse didn't win the Kentucky Derby. Does that mean I'm going to sulk about it for months, and hope the horse that did win breaks a leg? Hell no.
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@walterwhite said:
Well the season hasn't started yet so I can't really "show you anything" I can show you this:
It's one of the girls Johnny hooked up with. No hate here, just love, I hope it brings you a lot of joy.
Same old shit. Some of us really don't give a rat's ass how many hot chicks Johnny hug out with in the past, you seem to have a fixation on it though. But in the future, it might make a difference as Browns fans if he gets in a Ben Rothlisberger situation with some bimbo. Has nothing to do with his on field football ability. Yeah- being a big time football star (and really rich) will make you a chick magnet- if that's your goal, so tell me something I don't know. If I want to see bimbos in action, I can tune into the Real Housewhores of Atlanta anytime.
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@walterwhite said:
^ Can't you just fucking be happy for once?
Good god, some of you just bitch bitch bitch NO MATTER WHAT WE DO or who we draft.
I swear to god you get more satisfaction bitching about the Browns than seeing them potentially do well.
We have a fucking badass CB duo, a new OG, a new fast ILB, a badass RB, and possibly our franchise QB and you still find a way to kill the mood.
AND we are fucking loaded with picks next year.
MISERY LOVES COMPANY DRAGGING others down with it's shitty mood man.
We fucking did well but your so jaded with pessimism to anyone with a positive attitude.
I'm actually starting to like this pick at 22.
I don't think he should start, but he should be used in packages immediatly.
If yur gonna start him day one at PIT, well, ummmmm, good luck wit dat . . .I would like to see that.
I don't think it's a great idea, but it would make for an interesting game.
One of my favorite aspects of that pick is that it put the final nail in Mike Holmgren's coffin coz it was his Richardson pick that he would have resigned over being traded to the Colts if he had not already been fired. What an idiot. I can't even believe he would be so stupid to have said that.
Of all the shitty things that have happened to the Browns since their return, the Mike Holmgren era sits at the top of that pile of shit.
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Jealous of what?
Hating? No. Realistic? Yes
Bitter? Angry? No
Fear? None
man, you sucked at that
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
@walterwhite said:
You're a fucking melon head if you think I'm a bandwagon fan.
Just because you're pissed off, angry, jealous, bitter, and a total dope that we got Manziel.
Hahaha in your face dude, we got Manziel and there isn't shit you can do about it.
Oh hey look, you said the same shit to this guy over in this thread... clever
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@walterwhite said:
^ Can't you just fucking be happy for once?
Good god, some of you just bitch bitch bitch NO MATTER WHAT WE DO or who we draft.
I swear to god you get more satisfaction bitching about the Browns than seeing them potentially do well.
We have a fucking badass CB duo, a new OG, a new fast ILB, a badass RB, and possibly our franchise QB and you still find a way to kill the mood.
AND we are fucking loaded with picks next year.
MISERY LOVES COMPANY DRAGGING others down with it's shitty mood man.
We fucking did well but your so jaded with pessimism to anyone with a positive attitude.
And you're unrealistically optimistic about a QB a ton of teams avoided and had question marks on.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I think Manziel can make a major impact on the Browns. But, as of now the receiving corp is pretty weak. (Austin will help)
Curious to see how Shanahan uses Johnny. He did a decent job with RG-ME in washington.
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Jealous of what?
Hating? No. Realistic? Yes
Bitter? Angry? No
Fear? None
man, you sucked at that
Jealous of what?
Hating? No. Realistic? Yes
Bitter? Angry? No
Fear? None
man, you sucked at that
Yeah- he really needs to get some better & newer material. But I think he should start fearing he's pissed enough people off around here with his juvenile taunts that we're considering kicking his sorry ass outta here until the bye week. Maybe he can learn to start acting like an adult instead of a jerk by then, but I have my doubts. I've been doing Browns message boards since the 1994 days of Usenet, and he's moving up on my all-time jerk-o-meter scale. On our old AOL home, he'd have gotten the boot- long ago.
He can spend his downtime trolling the Steelers, Ravens, and Bungles boards telling them how Johnny Football is going to kick their ever loving asses for the next 15 years, and how the Texans, Jags, Raiders, Bucs, Titans, and Cowboys seriously blew it not drafting his man-crush.
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Who cares? This whole post sound like a bunch of little girls fighting over gossip. Just fucking win some games.
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"Thats when Haslam made the decision that they were going to trade up to get Johnny Football"
Hopefully the reporter got this wrong, otherwise Haslam is a liar(shocker!) as he's said multiple times he was hands off and let Farmer do his job. Otherwise this move is Jerry Jones like, and that's scary...
"Thats when Haslam made the decision that they were going to trade up to get Johnny Football"
Hopefully the reporter got this wrong, otherwise Haslam is a liar(shocker!) as he's said multiple times he was hands off and let Farmer do his job. Otherwise this move is Jerry Jones like, and that's scary...
Yeah I read this article earlier....and it's stupid. I'm with you that I hope it didn't go down this way (with Haslam). Getting all giddy over an effing text...
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I'll go further. This organization, like most every successful organization, functions by way or a rank/grade system. QB coaches report to Shanahan, who reports to Pettine, who reports to Farmer, who reports to Haslem, especially on matters that involve decision making, unless there's a prearranged agreement that some things are open for anyone to discuss at anytime, but even then, you set yourself up for failure when you undermind someone like Farmer, and jump the chain of command whenever you want. Maybe this was how it went down and maybe this was all approved communication, but Farmer is on record stating that the pick did not go like this, that Haslem had no influence on the pick and that he never said go get him.
If your GM decided what went on in the war room is private information, then a lower grade employee leaked what happened, I would be concerned about the standing of that employee going forward. Not everything about draft prep and execution should be made public, especially if it contradicts your GMs prior statements.
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"Thats when Haslam made the decision that they were going to trade up to get Johnny Football"
Hopefully the reporter got this wrong, otherwise Haslam is a liar(shocker!) as he's said multiple times he was hands off and let Farmer do his job. Otherwise this move is Jerry Jones like, and that's scary...
"Thats when Haslam made the decision that they were going to trade up to get Johnny Football"
Hopefully the reporter got this wrong, otherwise Haslam is a liar(shocker!) as he's said multiple times he was hands off and let Farmer do his job. Otherwise this move is Jerry Jones like, and that's scary...
I'm sure that's highly exaggerated. I think it's obvious Jimmy wanted him, and if that was the case we would have taken him at four. No way he would have let the situation play out like it did if he was the one calling the shots. Just look at the Redskins owner. To be perfectly honest I'm actually surprised Dallas didn't take him.
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I wonder how many teams he texted that to
I wonder how many teams he texted that to
Good wondering there... Add to it, he who? JM or is his agent?
If true, and this message had anything to do with our decision, it would take my respect for our FO down a notch...
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@mike-h said:
So, you're going to ban people who have different--but correct--opinions?
This is comical. How angry are you that you were wrong? And don't give me the shit that you're rooting for Manziel to succeed. I'll find the posts later where you openly wished injury on him.
Ban yourself, fossil.
No, he's going to ban people that are assholes.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein -
Ladies, I have know Hoorta for 17 years.
As a poster he will have an opinion and battle you.
As a moderator he doesn't care what your opinion is he doesn't want over the top abusive assholes.
He can separate the two.
Just bring it down a notch with the in your face stuff, we're all Browns fans.
I can bait some Steeler trolls into here if you need someone to punch.
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