Jonathan Paul Manziel
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@walterwhite said:
You're a fucking melon head if you think I'm a bandwagon fan.
Just because you're pissed off, angry, jealous, bitter, and a total dope that we got Manziel.
Hahaha in your face dude, we got Manziel and there isn't shit you can do about it.
Oh hey look, you said the same shit to this guy over in this thread... clever
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@walterwhite said:
^ Can't you just fucking be happy for once?
Good god, some of you just bitch bitch bitch NO MATTER WHAT WE DO or who we draft.
I swear to god you get more satisfaction bitching about the Browns than seeing them potentially do well.
We have a fucking badass CB duo, a new OG, a new fast ILB, a badass RB, and possibly our franchise QB and you still find a way to kill the mood.
AND we are fucking loaded with picks next year.
MISERY LOVES COMPANY DRAGGING others down with it's shitty mood man.
We fucking did well but your so jaded with pessimism to anyone with a positive attitude.
And you're unrealistically optimistic about a QB a ton of teams avoided and had question marks on.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I think Manziel can make a major impact on the Browns. But, as of now the receiving corp is pretty weak. (Austin will help)
Curious to see how Shanahan uses Johnny. He did a decent job with RG-ME in washington.
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Jealous of what?
Hating? No. Realistic? Yes
Bitter? Angry? No
Fear? None
man, you sucked at that
Jealous of what?
Hating? No. Realistic? Yes
Bitter? Angry? No
Fear? None
man, you sucked at that
Yeah- he really needs to get some better & newer material. But I think he should start fearing he's pissed enough people off around here with his juvenile taunts that we're considering kicking his sorry ass outta here until the bye week. Maybe he can learn to start acting like an adult instead of a jerk by then, but I have my doubts. I've been doing Browns message boards since the 1994 days of Usenet, and he's moving up on my all-time jerk-o-meter scale. On our old AOL home, he'd have gotten the boot- long ago.
He can spend his downtime trolling the Steelers, Ravens, and Bungles boards telling them how Johnny Football is going to kick their ever loving asses for the next 15 years, and how the Texans, Jags, Raiders, Bucs, Titans, and Cowboys seriously blew it not drafting his man-crush.
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Who cares? This whole post sound like a bunch of little girls fighting over gossip. Just fucking win some games.
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"Thats when Haslam made the decision that they were going to trade up to get Johnny Football"
Hopefully the reporter got this wrong, otherwise Haslam is a liar(shocker!) as he's said multiple times he was hands off and let Farmer do his job. Otherwise this move is Jerry Jones like, and that's scary...
"Thats when Haslam made the decision that they were going to trade up to get Johnny Football"
Hopefully the reporter got this wrong, otherwise Haslam is a liar(shocker!) as he's said multiple times he was hands off and let Farmer do his job. Otherwise this move is Jerry Jones like, and that's scary...
Yeah I read this article earlier....and it's stupid. I'm with you that I hope it didn't go down this way (with Haslam). Getting all giddy over an effing text...
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I'll go further. This organization, like most every successful organization, functions by way or a rank/grade system. QB coaches report to Shanahan, who reports to Pettine, who reports to Farmer, who reports to Haslem, especially on matters that involve decision making, unless there's a prearranged agreement that some things are open for anyone to discuss at anytime, but even then, you set yourself up for failure when you undermind someone like Farmer, and jump the chain of command whenever you want. Maybe this was how it went down and maybe this was all approved communication, but Farmer is on record stating that the pick did not go like this, that Haslem had no influence on the pick and that he never said go get him.
If your GM decided what went on in the war room is private information, then a lower grade employee leaked what happened, I would be concerned about the standing of that employee going forward. Not everything about draft prep and execution should be made public, especially if it contradicts your GMs prior statements.
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"Thats when Haslam made the decision that they were going to trade up to get Johnny Football"
Hopefully the reporter got this wrong, otherwise Haslam is a liar(shocker!) as he's said multiple times he was hands off and let Farmer do his job. Otherwise this move is Jerry Jones like, and that's scary...
"Thats when Haslam made the decision that they were going to trade up to get Johnny Football"
Hopefully the reporter got this wrong, otherwise Haslam is a liar(shocker!) as he's said multiple times he was hands off and let Farmer do his job. Otherwise this move is Jerry Jones like, and that's scary...
I'm sure that's highly exaggerated. I think it's obvious Jimmy wanted him, and if that was the case we would have taken him at four. No way he would have let the situation play out like it did if he was the one calling the shots. Just look at the Redskins owner. To be perfectly honest I'm actually surprised Dallas didn't take him.
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I wonder how many teams he texted that to
I wonder how many teams he texted that to
Good wondering there... Add to it, he who? JM or is his agent?
If true, and this message had anything to do with our decision, it would take my respect for our FO down a notch...
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@mike-h said:
So, you're going to ban people who have different--but correct--opinions?
This is comical. How angry are you that you were wrong? And don't give me the shit that you're rooting for Manziel to succeed. I'll find the posts later where you openly wished injury on him.
Ban yourself, fossil.
No, he's going to ban people that are assholes.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein -
Ladies, I have know Hoorta for 17 years.
As a poster he will have an opinion and battle you.
As a moderator he doesn't care what your opinion is he doesn't want over the top abusive assholes.
He can separate the two.
Just bring it down a notch with the in your face stuff, we're all Browns fans.
I can bait some Steeler trolls into here if you need someone to punch.
Z
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Not saying its not class. just sayin someone in his position should be obligated to do those types of things. I like the pick of JF because of the draft position they took him at. At #4 it might have been one of the worst draft picks of all time.
And then you have homos sayin all the media did was make him look like a bad guy. Please without the media JF doesnt sniff the first round.
Guess im just getting burnt out on the JF drama already and he may not even play in 2014 (if this was a legit organization)
Why should someone in his position be "obligated" to do those things? Are you saying that someone who has a talent that makes him good money should be required to do certain things? Is it that he's a national idol that should be required to give back? That's like me saying the most skilled lawn care guy in my neighborhood should take time to mow the lawn for all the elderly around use, for free. That's ludacris. Those type of actions are above and beyond the normal expectation for any person, regardless of status, especially in the self centered world most live in.Not saying its not class. just sayin someone in his position should be obligated to do those types of things.
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@walterwhite said:
If I got banned for showing vocal support for Manziel, then I wouldn't want to be a part of this place anyways.
...and Mike H is right, Hoorta did say something about hoping Manziel got hurt.
I'm not saying you're an asshole for being a staunch supporter of Manziel. Hell, I was onboard when we got him @22 (didn't want to touch him @4). I'm saying you're an asshole because you flame the shit out of other members that have a different opinion than yours. Good natured ribbing is what we are all about, but your antics cross the line.
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Hoortas attitude towards manziel reminds me of gay self hatred. He has a crush on Johnny and hates himself and Johnny because of his gay crush on him.
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I want to see how johnny football looks in some preseason action before making an evaluation. Sure the preseason isn't all serious but we can still make a partial judgement on things he does. Saying that, I would rather him be taking the 1st team snaps and be getting some good usage in the 3rd and 4th preseason game.
I want to see how johnny football looks in some preseason action before making an evaluation. Sure the preseason isn't all serious but we can still make a partial judgement on things he does. Saying that, I would rather him be taking the 1st team snaps and be getting some good usage in the 3rd and 4th preseason game.
Agree and would expect him to work with (and against) 2nd team. Would expect him to thrive in that circumstance.
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"Thats when Haslam made the decision that they were going to trade up to get Johnny Football"
Hopefully the reporter got this wrong, otherwise Haslam is a liar(shocker!) as he's said multiple times he was hands off and let Farmer do his job. Otherwise this move is Jerry Jones like, and that's scary...
"Thats when Haslam made the decision that they were going to trade up to get Johnny Football"
Hopefully the reporter got this wrong, otherwise Haslam is a liar(shocker!) as he's said multiple times he was hands off and let Farmer do his job. Otherwise this move is Jerry Jones like, and that's scary...
I'm seeing this brought up a few times in this thread.
There's more to the story.
Browns were trying to trade up with a few Teams from #26 and the deals were falling through from what I've read.
Taking this and Haslam's comments, and to me it's essentially like saying "If we're going to get this guy we better go do it".
They were afraid Dallas was going to grab him, and they were pretty sure KC would taken them if Dallas didn't.
Comments are Manziel was the #1 QB on the Browns board, "and then there was everyone else" as it's been reported.
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http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10940453&src=desktop
Johnny asking the browns to get him so he can wreck shop. I sure hope the attitude pays off like it did in college...
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@mike-h said:
Ray Farmer told Haslam in December that Manziel was a franchise QB. I'm sure He had no say in the decision.
And if you read the entire story, or listen to the audio, Loggains said Manziel was on top of all the other QBs.
So, yeah, you were still wrong.
And I'm sure the guys who just turned the Browns into contenders give a shit about your admiration.
Temper, temper lil' guy...
I find the story of the text message to be implausible... my comment was "were it true".
The rightness or wrongness of the decision to draft Manziel is yet to be determined. It's your arrogance that requires to believe otherwise.
Being a simple fan, I can't argue with your last statement. Now if I had the sway of your platform... LOL...
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