Good read for the new Fans - a recent primer on the Browns
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@walterwhite said:
"I'm a moderater so anyone with a positive attitude that doesn't post like I do or share the same beliefs that The Browns will do shitty next year will be given a time out"
Awesome man, I bet you're a real catch at parties.
This "I'm a moderator" so I get to control the tone of the conversation and people's attitudes shit is old and annoying man.
I'M NOT APOLOGIZING FOR ACTUALLY BEING FUCKING EXCITED FOR 2014
Dude, we dont have a lot of rules here, but don't mock the moderation or you'll disappear and no one will miss you after. ... Oh. ... An hour.
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@walterwhite said:
"I'm a moderater so anyone with a positive attitude that doesn't post like I do or share the same beliefs that The Browns will do shitty next year will be given a time out"
Awesome man, I bet you're a real catch at parties.
This "I'm a moderator" so I get to control the tone of the conversation and people's attitudes shit is old and annoying man.
I'M NOT APOLOGIZING FOR ACTUALLY BEING FUCKING EXCITED FOR 2014
And for u New newbies this is walterWhite he's been on this particular board for about 3 months and a diehard Browns fan since about last Thursday at about 10:15ish or so and is a true example of how class and respect is supposed to be shared. We all have a little to learn from this guy for sure. For example every time JF is on tv, radio, or just pops into my head I instantly start fondling myself. Thanks WW u r a true inspiration to little Kentucky
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Fact of the matter these JF fans (I refuse to say JFF) are going to be bitching and moaning once WK1 begins and Johnny isn't the starter. They are going to avoid threads as long as Hoyer plays decent, and when he has a bad game they are going to jump in and call for his head. When ever Johnny begins to start, whether it be this season, or next, or in 3 years what ever, we are going to see the same thing from the Shaw fan boys.
Ruining threads since 1897. -
FRAK? Sorry Gipper. You must have us confused with that place over in Austin. If you knew our history this term would never have been used.
Have you ever been through 10 straight years never beating your rival while still hoping every year things would change?
We beat that team from Austin when our only other Heisman winner was with us in 1956. It wasn't until 1967 that we finally did it again.
FRAK. Sorry, foreign language to me.
Harry-no one asked for JFF to have his redshirt removed when we were hearing about this phenom chewing up the 1's with a scout team. I doubt what you suggest will happen. We all are aware you can ruin a good QB by playing him before he is ready. I trust this staff to know when that is. This isn't our first rodeo.
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Fact of the matter these JF fans (I refuse to say JFF) are going to be bitching and moaning once WK1 begins and Johnny isn't the starter. They are going to avoid threads as long as Hoyer plays decent, and when he has a bad game they are going to jump in and call for his head. When ever Johnny begins to start, whether it be this season, or next, or in 3 years what ever, we are going to see the same thing from the Shaw fan boys.
Fact of the matter these JF fans (I refuse to say JFF) are going to be bitching and moaning once WK1 begins and Johnny isn't the starter. They are going to avoid threads as long as Hoyer plays decent, and when he has a bad game they are going to jump in and call for his head. When ever Johnny begins to start, whether it be this season, or next, or in 3 years what ever, we are going to see the same thing from the Shaw fan boys.
But until then, enjoy bitching about new fans from "real" Browns fans. You know, the ones that bitch about other fans.
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Fact of the matter these JF fans (I refuse to say JFF) are going to be bitching and moaning once WK1 begins and Johnny isn't the starter. They are going to avoid threads as long as Hoyer plays decent, and when he has a bad game they are going to jump in and call for his head. When ever Johnny begins to start, whether it be this season, or next, or in 3 years what ever, we are going to see the same thing from the Shaw fan boys.
Fact of the matter these JF fans (I refuse to say JFF) are going to be bitching and moaning once WK1 begins and Johnny isn't the starter. They are going to avoid threads as long as Hoyer plays decent, and when he has a bad game they are going to jump in and call for his head. When ever Johnny begins to start, whether it be this season, or next, or in 3 years what ever, we are going to see the same thing from the Shaw fan boys.
Probably, but I surely hope the Coaching staff doesn't cave in on this.
Manziel needs time to learn and get accustomed to the NFL, we've trashed entirely too many QB's by throwing them to the wolves too early - and wolves is what we face in the AFCN.
I'm going to say this and I know I'm going to catch flack for it, but McCoy should have started at least the first six games of the 2012 Season.
Not because he's a stellar QB, but because it would have given Weeden at least a small glimmer of hope to come up to speed, plus it would have been interesting to see what Colt could have done with some actual weapons and (OL) protection.
I don't want to see us rush another QB in when he's not ready, that's why we've been in the situation we've been in the last xx years.
Heck, the latest poll they mentioned on ESPN Radio said at least 50% (might have been 70% - Memory) said didn't want Manziel to even start this Season.
Something like 14% wanted to see him start game 1 . . . come on folks, at least give the kid a chance - this is the freakin' NFL after all, not College.
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Fact of the matter these JF fans (I refuse to say JFF) are going to be bitching and moaning once WK1 begins and Johnny isn't the starter. They are going to avoid threads as long as Hoyer plays decent, and when he has a bad game they are going to jump in and call for his head. When ever Johnny begins to start, whether it be this season, or next, or in 3 years what ever, we are going to see the same thing from the Shaw fan boys.
But until then, enjoy bitching about new fans from "real" Browns fans. You know, the ones that bitch about other fans.
TyperWoods said:
But until then, enjoy bitching about new fans from "real" Browns fans. You know, the ones that bitch about other fans.
what's up ghoulie?
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FRAK? Sorry Gipper. You must have us confused with that place over in Austin. If you knew our history this term would never have been used.
Have you ever been through 10 straight years never beating your rival while still hoping every year things would change?
We beat that team from Austin when our only other Heisman winner was with us in 1956. It wasn't until 1967 that we finally did it again.
FRAK. Sorry, foreign language to me.
Harry-no one asked for JFF to have his redshirt removed when we were hearing about this phenom chewing up the 1's with a scout team. I doubt what you suggest will happen. We all are aware you can ruin a good QB by playing him before he is ready. I trust this staff to know when that is. This isn't our first rodeo.
FRAK? Sorry Gipper. You must have us confused with that place over in Austin. If you knew our history this term would never have been used.
Have you ever been through 10 straight years never beating your rival while still hoping every year things would change?
We beat that team from Austin when our only other Heisman winner was with us in 1956. It wasn't until 1967 that we finally did it again.
FRAK. Sorry, foreign language to me.
Harry-no one asked for JFF to have his redshirt removed when we were hearing about this phenom chewing up the 1's with a scout team. I doubt what you suggest will happen. We all are aware you can ruin a good QB by playing him before he is ready. I trust this staff to know when that is. This isn't our first rodeo.
Yes. We have.
And we played our rivals twice a year, so it's doubly worse.
To compare the word of A&M to Cleveland is laughable at the very best.
Kindly get that shit out of here.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Compelling perspective from Fajitas. Why the Browns gravitate towards dysfunctional drama is any bodies guess. They can get well real quick if they come out in September and win a couple games against what looks to be a pretty fuckin serious early schedule
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FRAK? Sorry Gipper. You must have us confused with that place over in Austin. If you knew our history this term would never have been used.
Have you ever been through 10 straight years never beating your rival while still hoping every year things would change?
We beat that team from Austin when our only other Heisman winner was with us in 1956. It wasn't until 1967 that we finally did it again.
FRAK. Sorry, foreign language to me.
Harry-no one asked for JFF to have his redshirt removed when we were hearing about this phenom chewing up the 1's with a scout team. I doubt what you suggest will happen. We all are aware you can ruin a good QB by playing him before he is ready. I trust this staff to know when that is. This isn't our first rodeo.
Yes. We have.
And we played our rivals twice a year, so it's doubly worse.
To compare the word of A&M to Cleveland is laughable at the very best.
Kindly get that shit out of here.
Yes. We have.
And we played our rivals twice a year, so it's doubly worse.
To compare the word of A&M to Cleveland is laughable at the very best.
Kindly get that shit out of here.
Nah.
I see where he's coming from.
Granted, it's only the tip of the proverbial Iceberg compared to what we're used too, but at least he has a clue as to what it's like.
Be forewarned, it can be bad, and likely will be unfortunately.
It may sound awfully cliche', but this is the NFL, and it's a whole different level than College.
It's far and few between that make that transition easily, and it usually takes a Season or two (or three) . . . hence the high (Draft) round NFL bust rate being as bad as it is.
(Hopefully), we're all pulling that the players we've just Drafted/signed (via FA ) are going to all pan out.
There's not always a quick fix though, and as a Browns fan, we've been stuck in the wait and see phase for entirely too long.
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All you Texan and Cowboy fans are a fucking joke. You gave up on your team cause they didn't draft the rookie you wanted. You are the fans that real fans make fun of...you guys do know this right? I've seen a few Browns fans bitch and cry and threaten to quit on the Browns but then you'll see that same person post the next day. I like all Browns/Buckeye players but couldn't care less after they're gone... cause they're not Browns/Buckeyes anymore. I don't even know if there's a word for you guys... bandwagon doesn't seem right cause we haven't won anything yet.
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TyperWoods said:
But until then, enjoy bitching about new fans from "real" Browns fans. You know, the ones that bitch about other fans.
what's up ghoulie?
what's up ghoulie?
Don't know what that means. Is that another poster?
If it is, I know your kind. Think you know everything.
I'll say this once - I'm not ghoulie.
Now, STFU.
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FRAK? Sorry Gipper. You must have us confused with that place over in Austin. If you knew our history this term would never have been used.
Have you ever been through 10 straight years never beating your rival while still hoping every year things would change?
We beat that team from Austin when our only other Heisman winner was with us in 1956. It wasn't until 1967 that we finally did it again.
FRAK. Sorry, foreign language to me.
Harry-no one asked for JFF to have his redshirt removed when we were hearing about this phenom chewing up the 1's with a scout team. I doubt what you suggest will happen. We all are aware you can ruin a good QB by playing him before he is ready. I trust this staff to know when that is. This isn't our first rodeo.
Yes. We have.
And we played our rivals twice a year, so it's doubly worse.
To compare the word of A&M to Cleveland is laughable at the very best.
Kindly get that shit out of here.
Yes. We have.
And we played our rivals twice a year, so it's doubly worse.
To compare the word of A&M to Cleveland is laughable at the very best.
Kindly get that shit out of here.
Sorry Tim, I don't scare off that easily. You're stuck with me so relax.
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Yes. We have.
And we played our rivals twice a year, so it's doubly worse.
To compare the word of A&M to Cleveland is laughable at the very best.
Kindly get that shit out of here.
Sorry Tim, I don't scare off that easily. You're stuck with me so relax.
Sorry Tim, I don't scare off that easily. You're stuck with me so relax.
Wasn't trying to scare you off.
Only pointing out that being an A&M fan is not comparable.
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Listen you newbie JFF fans...you only care about him because he plays for the shithole of a team you root for. You're not real JFF fans, but I bet you'll hop on the bandwagon as he drags that pathetic excuse for a franchise to heights of glory you've never experienced before.
Now shut the fuck up about new Browns fans and enjoy the ride.
Yeah... for starters there's the fact that this year will mark the 50th anniversary of our last league championship.
I'm old enough to remember that game...
TyperWoods said:
Listen you newbie JFF fans...you only care about him because he plays for the shithole of a team you root for. You're not real JFF fans, but I bet you'll hop on the bandwagon as he drags that pathetic excuse for a franchise to heights of glory you've never experienced before.
Now shut the fuck up about new Browns fans and enjoy the ride.
Q: Where to begin with a post like this?
A: Nowhere...
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i dont know why its so hard for some to acknowledge new fans. certain players have their own fanbase whats new. Yea if Johnny Football sucks (I personally highly doubt this will happen) they wont be fans for long but if he does well and wins and is with the team for 10 years I'm sure many of the new fans will have plenty of great memories and experiences they wont forget when he retires or changes teams late in his career and if that scenerio plays out im sure the majority of the new fans will keep rooting for the browns after manziel leaves. especially since after all they are gonna develop feelings (no Michael Sam) for other players on the team such as the recievers, line, defense ect as they are exposed to them watching Johnny's games. I'm sure these guys didn't just root for Johnny Football in college I'm sure they were fans of Matthews / Evans all the way down to the walk ons because it's a team game and for the QB to do good the team has to do good. It will be the same way here if Johnny Football is winning games these guys will grow to love the guys that are helping him win and want to support them too as well as develop a loyalty to the fans that they share the experience with. I highly doubt if Johnny Football is successful that the A&M fans (some of the best and most loyal fans out there) will simply abandon their fellow fans that they have met watching games, at bars, online, wherever. It's not like this is some guy coming out of the U or some other bandwagon school the reason these guys are so gung ho on JFF is because they are amongst the most loyal in CFF and I don't know why they wouldn't be great fans to have.
i dont know why its so hard for some to acknowledge new fans. certain players have their own fanbase whats new. Yea if Johnny Football sucks (I personally highly doubt this will happen) they wont be fans for long but if he does well and wins and is with the team for 10 years I'm sure many of the new fans will have plenty of great memories and experiences they wont forget when he retires or changes teams late in his career and if that scenerio plays out im sure the majority of the new fans will keep rooting for the browns after manziel leaves. especially since after all they are gonna develop feelings (no Michael Sam) for other players on the team such as the recievers, line, defense ect as they are exposed to them watching Johnny's games. I'm sure these guys didn't just root for Johnny Football in college I'm sure they were fans of Matthews / Evans all the way down to the walk ons because it's a team game and for the QB to do good the team has to do good. It will be the same way here if Johnny Football is winning games these guys will grow to love the guys that are helping him win and want to support them too as well as develop a loyalty to the fans that they share the experience with. I highly doubt if Johnny Football is successful that the A&M fans (some of the best and most loyal fans out there) will simply abandon their fellow fans that they have met watching games, at bars, online, wherever. It's not like this is some guy coming out of the U or some other bandwagon school the reason these guys are so gung ho on JFF is because they are amongst the most loyal in CFF and I don't know why they wouldn't be great fans to have.
Here's the deal with new fans. For example, you have the Steelers pick up millions of band wagon fans for their last Superbowl win. A TON. You get these soccer mom fans with pick or Jet fans (that get fed up) become fans. Then when their team sucks, they jump ship (I've backed this up with attendance and win/loss argument MANY times on this board for proof). The improved Browns will be a playoff contender soon rather than later. JF fans want to jump board, but will they be on board if God forbid JF gets hurt and we lose a couple players to injury? Will you stay aboard? My guess is no. We don't want that behavior associated with the Browns, all we have is pride over the last 15 years; and I am damn proud of that. As storied the Steelers franchise is, they have the single most arrogant fan base on the planet, with the least knowledge of the game for this reason. New fans that don't know shit about the game and I would personally be embarrassed by this. While our team has sucked for the past part of more than a decade, we stay fans. When people laugh and disrespect the Browns, when I tell them I am a fan, it's because they don't respect the game. They have no clue of how storied the franchise and what the Browns did for football. Laughing at the Browns is laughing at football.
So I say if you can stay though thick and thin. Welcome aboard.
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@walterwhite said:
"I'm a moderater so anyone with a positive attitude that doesn't post like I do or share the same beliefs that The Browns will do shitty next year will be given a time out"
Awesome man, I bet you're a real catch at parties.
This "I'm a moderator" so I get to control the tone of the conversation and people's attitudes shit is old and annoying man.
I'M NOT APOLOGIZING FOR ACTUALLY BEING FUCKING EXCITED FOR 2014
You can be as excited as you want to be Walter- just tone down blasting the other board members who want to see how this all shakes out on the field. Training camp is still a couple months away. "Greatest of all time"? As they say in Missouri "Show Me". If I'm wrong about Johnny Football, I'll happily eat crow. Can you get it through your head I might not like Johnny the person, but I hope Johnny the football player does really well? It's been pointed out JF's ceiling is Fran Tarkenton, and his floor is Ryan Leaf- we shall see soon enough. If you want my 50 years worth of football experience guess, it's (I hope) Bernie Kosar good.
BTW I was showing Johnny's SI cover around at work- someone hung it over my workbench- and I got an unsolicited response from one of my co-workers- who isn't a Browns or Bengals fan- "I hope he gets hurt". Just be aware there are plenty of Johnny haters out there (and probably even a few in Cleveland) who would like nothing better than to see him flop big time.
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TyperWoods said:
Don't know what that means. Is that another poster?
If it is, I know your kind. Think you know everything.
I'll say this once - I'm not ghoulie.
Now, STFU.
Let me clue you in Ghoolie- he of many names (real one is Tom V.) is the Board's resident contrarialn and general pain it the ass. Goes by Vesna Kocifer- or something like that now. He's in hibernation until the Manziel Mania love fest tones down.
Yeah... for starters there's the fact that this year will mark the 50th anniversary of our last league championship.
I'm old enough to remember that game...
Yeah- one of my major regrets in life is I didn't blow my paper route money, hop on the bus and catch that game- it was blacked out in Cleveland and all that exists of it are highlight clips.
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FRAK? Sorry Gipper. You must have us confused with that place over in Austin. If you knew our history this term would never have been used.
Have you ever been through 10 straight years never beating your rival while still hoping every year things would change?
We beat that team from Austin when our only other Heisman winner was with us in 1956. It wasn't until 1967 that we finally did it again.
FRAK. Sorry, foreign language to me.
Harry-no one asked for JFF to have his redshirt removed when we were hearing about this phenom chewing up the 1's with a scout team. I doubt what you suggest will happen. We all are aware you can ruin a good QB by playing him before he is ready. I trust this staff to know when that is. This isn't our first rodeo.
FRAK? Sorry Gipper. You must have us confused with that place over in Austin. If you knew our history this term would never have been used.
Well, lately then a lot of people must be jumping off that bandwagon. It seems that perhaps the situation with the Longhorns there is about the same as the situation with the Steelers here, so at least you understand the concept.
Have you ever been through 10 straight years never beating your rival while still hoping every year things would change?
Uhh, yes....go look at the Browns history vs. the Steelers.
We beat that team from Austin when our only other Heisman winner was with us in 1956. It wasn't until 1967 that we finally did it again.
FRAK. Sorry, foreign language to me.
Harry-no one asked for JFF to have his redshirt removed when we were hearing about this phenom chewing up the 1's with a scout team. I doubt what you suggest will happen. We all are aware you can ruin a good QB by playing him before he is ready. I trust this staff to know when that is. This isn't our first rodeo.
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