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  • @tour2ma said:

    I made it to 0:25... then hit the gong...

    I'm just old enough to know what the hell you're talking about here. Lol. Coke addict/double agent Chuck Barris. The movie about him was hilarious. Loved it.

    Ok so I'm going off topic, but when the topic is this thing attempting to sing....

    @tml1138 said:

    I'm just old enough to know what the hell you're talking about here. Lol. Coke addict/double agent Chuck Barris. The movie about him was hilarious. Loved it.

    Ok so I'm going off topic, but when the topic is this thing attempting to sing....

    of course. jp morgan showing her tits, gene gene the dancing machine and unknown comic to name a few.

  • @choco said:

    ESPN vilifying johnny? Really?

    They've been sucking his dick for 2 years.

    Except that whole thing where they gave Darren Rovell 6 months to dig up dirt on the kid and the biggest thing he could find/fabricate (autographgate) still didn't stick.

    ESPN is an echo chamber, they create stories that aren't really stories so that their 30 shows can talk about the non-stories to fill air time and sell advertising.

    @vinz-clortho said:

    Except that whole thing where they gave Darren Rovell 6 months to dig up dirt on the kid and the biggest thing he could find/fabricate (autographgate) still didn't stick.

    ESPN is an echo chamber, they create stories that aren't really stories so that their 30 shows can talk about the non-stories to fill air time and sell advertising.

    @miktoxic said:

    each show repeats the previous show right on cue. i really can't watch it anymore. i tried to watch first take for a minute today and got so disgusted within minutes i was screaming at the tv telling bayless to STFU.

    Welcome to the TMZ of the sports world.

  • Got to be fair. Could just be Johnny Hollywood.

  • The greatest thing about Johnny is that he wants to be here. He wants to make plays and put points on the board for the Browns. This kid is going to excite this city and the surrounding area for years to come. I have confidence that his play style will adapt to what it needs to adapt to. He loves the game and knows it as well as you would want a rookie to know it. You didn't see it or hear it from the other duds (Weeden, Quinn, ect...). Weeden had correctable problems but because he didn't love the game...they didn't get fixed. It was obvious every game that he was lost in the sauce and was on auto pilot in the film room. Quinn lost his heart in the NFL. He went out there and played scared...at Notre Dame he made all the throws and got the NFL and became king check down. Didn't buy in and prepare right and we saw it on the field. Hoyer has looked the most prepared out all of the 20 starting QB's we've had. He was decisive and got the ball out. He was the only one we've seen that it was evident he prepared properly...he was in the playbook and in the coaches ear. Just like his mentor in New England. You will see the same thing with Johnny.

  • Love him or hate him brandon weeden came into the nfl a little bit older than most. He had good basic skills but never had the opportunity to develop those skills in the big league. 1 reason was his age but another was he never played the same system for very long. Brady quinn should have come in to camp immediately.

    I think Colt McCoy may have been a victim of multiple coordinators and schemes.

    I hope Johnny's attitude is real and not just a public relations ploy. If so I think he will work hard, learn the system and eventually be the guy we've been looking for.

    And if Hoyer takes us to the superbowl before johnny is ready even better.

  • I have to admit, I'm fighting to not get too excited about JM just yet. I want this team to win again, badly, so it's hard. (My choice was Bortles from this class.) Yet I'm all in for money signs, "wreck the NFL", and JFF if it means top of the AFCN and kicking @$$ in the NFL in general.

    Johnny=Winning? Yeah, sign me up for that.

  • Love him or hate him brandon weeden came into the nfl a little bit older than most. He had good basic skills but never had the opportunity to develop those skills in the big league. 1 reason was his age but another was he never played the same system for very long. Brady quinn should have come in to camp immediately.

    I think Colt McCoy may have been a victim of multiple coordinators and schemes.

    I hope Johnny's attitude is real and not just a public relations ploy. If so I think he will work hard, learn the system and eventually be the guy we've been looking for.

    And if Hoyer takes us to the superbowl before johnny is ready even better.

    @westside-steve said:

    Love him or hate him brandon weeden came into the nfl a little bit older than most. He had good basic skills but never had the opportunity to develop those skills in the big league. 1 reason was his age but another was he never played the same system for very long. Brady quinn should have come in to camp immediately.

    I think Colt McCoy may have been a victim of multiple coordinators and schemes.

    I hope Johnny's attitude is real and not just a public relations ploy. If so I think he will work hard, learn the system and eventually be the guy we've been looking for.

    And if Hoyer takes us to the superbowl before johnny is ready even better.

    Nah Steve, We-done has problems that IMHO aren't fixable at the NFL level. He certainly has an NFL caliber arm- but then again if it was all about arm, Jeff George, Jamarcus Russell, and Daunte Culpepper would all be in the HOF. (Supposedly Culpepper was verified to be able to throw the rock 90 yards in the air). As we saw in the Lions game that underhanded We-done toss was exhibit A of poor decision making, the guy folded like an accordion under pressure. Quinn suffered from much the same problems, as well as only having an average arm, Finally according to Jason J, McCoy's major problem is once he gets moved off his spot his field vision & accuracy go to hell. At least Colt will have a long career in the NFL as a backup- he's not starter material.

    I agree 100% I hope Manziel wasn't just a PR ploy- but the Browns really didn't need to sell more tickets. BTW the guy I love to hate on ESPN (Collin Cowherd) said yesterday- "lotsa luck if you think you're going to be able to control the media hype". Thanks for nothing ESPN. It's one of the reasons I was against the Browns drafting him. The circus is rolling into town starting with OTAs. I hope the team can handle the distractions. If you're a Manziel lover you're going to be in Heaven, it's going to be all Johnny all the time. RGIII who? Gilbert who? "Hey you over there what's ur name, you play for the Browns? What's it like playing with Johnny Football?"

    If we win with JF, great- if we don't ESPN moves on to next year's model.

  • It's like some people want Cleveland to be completely forgotten about.

    There's no dignity in being poor, looked over, and unwanted.

    I hope JF brings literally every single media member in the USA to Cleveland. Every. Single. One. I want 12 of the top 13 Sportscenter topics about Cleveland. Win or lose, it's great for the franchise.

    Coupling the boom in coverage brought upon by Johnny Football with stadium upgrades this season and the unveiling of a new jersey next season will bring about media coverage the likes of which no Clevelander has ever experienced.

    The spotlight being on Cleveland will bring sponsorship deals. The sponsors will bring money.

    +

    The franchise is going through stadium and gameday upgrades. The stadium and gameday upgrades will help sell more tickets, which brings in more money.

    +

    The team is unveiling a brand new jersey. Unveiling a brand new jersey means new merchandise. New merchandise means even more money.

    =

    Even more money will help bring in even bigger free agents.

    I know it's hard for many of you to understand this, but more players are caring about the way they look. Not just their physical looks, but the way their persona looks as well.

    You're a 24 year old FA:

    Do you want to play for a team with dated jerseys, an owner that gives zero shits about football, a FO headed by a fat blowhard dinosaur, a meek head coach, and a 32 year old quarterback at the bottom of the league in every statistical category?

    Or would you rather play for a team with brand new jerseys, an updated stadium, a fiery owner that cares about his team, a FO run by a decently young former player, a head coach that takes no bullshit from the media, and a quarterback that is all over ESPN and getting you on TV every week?

  • Love him or hate him brandon weeden came into the nfl a little bit older than most. He had good basic skills but never had the opportunity to develop those skills in the big league. 1 reason was his age but another was he never played the same system for very long. Brady quinn should have come in to camp immediately.

    I think Colt McCoy may have been a victim of multiple coordinators and schemes.

    I hope Johnny's attitude is real and not just a public relations ploy. If so I think he will work hard, learn the system and eventually be the guy we've been looking for.

    And if Hoyer takes us to the superbowl before johnny is ready even better.

    @westside-steve said:

    Love him or hate him brandon weeden came into the nfl a little bit older than most. He had good basic skills but never had the opportunity to develop those skills in the big league.

    He was an arm attached to a cabbage... and worse yet that cabbage's second choice was pro football.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    You're a 24 year old FA:

    Do you want to play for a team with dated jerseys, an owner that gives zero shits about football, a FO headed by a fat blowhard dinosaur, a meek head coach, and a 32 year old quarterback at the bottom of the league in every statistical category?

    Or would you rather play for a team with brand new jerseys, an updated stadium, a fiery owner that cares about his team, a FO run by a decently young former player, a head coach that takes no bullshit from the media, and a quarterback that is all over ESPN and getting you on TV every week?

    Is that a trick question?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Love him or hate him brandon weeden came into the nfl a little bit older than most. He had good basic skills but never had the opportunity to develop those skills in the big league.

    He was an arm attached to a cabbage... and worse yet that cabbage's second choice was pro football.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    You're a 24 year old FA:

    Do you want to play for a team with dated jerseys, an owner that gives zero shits about football, a FO headed by a fat blowhard dinosaur, a meek head coach, and a 32 year old quarterback at the bottom of the league in every statistical category?

    Or would you rather play for a team with brand new jerseys, an updated stadium, a fiery owner that cares about his team, a FO run by a decently young former player, a head coach that takes no bullshit from the media, and a quarterback that is all over ESPN and getting you on TV every week?

    Is that a trick question?

    @tour2ma said:

    He was an arm attached to a cabbage... and worse yet that cabbage's second choice was pro football.

    Is that a trick question?

    Tell me what you would like, then.

  • Johnny wants to play for whoever drafted him. He'd say the same thing regardless.

  • Johnny wants to play for whoever drafted him. He'd say the same thing regardless.

    @choco said:

    Johnny wants to play for whoever drafted him. He'd say the same thing regardless.

    but what else should he say, i hate being in cleveland?

    he's been coached in giving the right answer more than a murder suspect taking the stand.

  • Johnny wants to play for whoever drafted him. He'd say the same thing regardless.

    @choco said:

    Johnny wants to play for whoever drafted him. He'd say the same thing regardless.

    yea i dont think he cares where he plays as long as he gets to.

  • It's like some people want Cleveland to be completely forgotten about.

    There's no dignity in being poor, looked over, and unwanted.

    I hope JF brings literally every single media member in the USA to Cleveland. Every. Single. One. I want 12 of the top 13 Sportscenter topics about Cleveland. Win or lose, it's great for the franchise.

    Coupling the boom in coverage brought upon by Johnny Football with stadium upgrades this season and the unveiling of a new jersey next season will bring about media coverage the likes of which no Clevelander has ever experienced.

    The spotlight being on Cleveland will bring sponsorship deals. The sponsors will bring money.

    +

    The franchise is going through stadium and gameday upgrades. The stadium and gameday upgrades will help sell more tickets, which brings in more money.

    +

    The team is unveiling a brand new jersey. Unveiling a brand new jersey means new merchandise. New merchandise means even more money.

    =

    Even more money will help bring in even bigger free agents.

    I know it's hard for many of you to understand this, but more players are caring about the way they look. Not just their physical looks, but the way their persona looks as well.

    You're a 24 year old FA:

    Do you want to play for a team with dated jerseys, an owner that gives zero shits about football, a FO headed by a fat blowhard dinosaur, a meek head coach, and a 32 year old quarterback at the bottom of the league in every statistical category?

    Or would you rather play for a team with brand new jerseys, an updated stadium, a fiery owner that cares about his team, a FO run by a decently young former player, a head coach that takes no bullshit from the media, and a quarterback that is all over ESPN and getting you on TV every week?

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    the unveiling of a new jersey next season

    ugh. really?

    hey all you johnny fans ya gotta pony up again next year. lol!

    he'll look great in silver/grey/brown and orange.....HA!

  • i want johnny football because i want to see our qb taunt the opponent, make the money sign in ben rothelisburgers face and take a shit on andy daltons head

  • i want johnny football because i want to see our qb taunt the opponent, make the money sign in ben rothelisburgers face and take a shit on andy daltons head

    @brownsfanatic said:

    i want johnny football because i want to see our qb taunt the opponent, make the money sign in ben rothelisburgers face and take a shit on andy daltons head

    This.

  • @everlastingxxx said:

    I think there is a serious lack of talent on the Browns offense. It’s not just a QB problem. The good thing is you don’t need need many points with the Browns D. A guy like Manziel can get you that last game winning drive.

    wrong.

    cameron was the #1 or 2 TE last year in total numbers. we had no running game which will NOT be the case this year. and if 2 or 3 guys step up as wide receivers we'll definitely be a lot better than last year. yeah we're not the denver broncos but either are they anymore. ha!

  • @tour2ma said:

    He was an arm attached to a cabbage... and worse yet that cabbage's second choice was pro football.

    Is that a trick question?

    Tell me what you would like, then.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Tell me what you would like, then.

    Fair and balanced for a change? Equal time for every franchise? OK, I give up- that's not the way the media in general, and BS-PN in particular operate anymore. Last BB season it was more about if the f**king Lakers were going to make the playoffs instead of the 3 other teams that had equally legit shots. TMZ, Cult of Personality- what have you. Just my personal affront- I was damn sick and tired of ESPN giving RGIII virtual blow jobs every f**cking day- that is, until he blew out his knee, and then it was all about his F**king rehab. Same shit is gonna happen with JF- if you like it fine- but JF is NOT bigger than the Browns. You want the National Spotlight on the Browns- then give Gilbert equal time dammit. Gee, why isn't that going to happen? And there's going to be some serious negative publicity coming down the pike. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/05/former_top_executive_of_jimmy.html Read between the lines- the Feds are going to bust Haslam- it's merely a question of when. I suppose publicity is half cool- when the Cavs had LeBum, man the BSPN crew couldn't suck up enough Cleveland basketball. Fer sure JF better not bust- Fox Sports was actually laughing about the Cavs getting the #1 overall pick again.

    @everlastingxxx said:

    I think there is a serious lack of talent on the Browns offense. It’s not just a QB problem. The good thing is you don’t need need many points with the Browns D. A guy like Manziel can get you that last game winning drive.

    You have 2 Pro Bowlers on the offensive line, we added a stud RT\RG, Cameron made the Pro Bowl @ TE, Ben Tate isn't exactly a stiff, And pending the length of Gordon's suspension- we happen to have a legit #1 wr.

  • @everlastingxxx said:

    Thats right Tate was added this offseason. I know about Hawkins, he came in second on Michael Irvins reality show a few years ago. I thought he should have won but Irvin chose the bigger WR.

    And then the proper vet WRs, Austin, Bennett & Burleson. Not exactly studs (that's why they were FAs still available in April/May), but Outside of Gordon, our WRs were awful last year. These guys are most likely an upgrade over Little, Benjamin & Bess.