Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I have to admit, I'm fighting to not get too excited about JM just yet. I want this team to win again, badly, so it's hard. (My choice was Bortles from this class.) Yet I'm all in for money signs, "wreck the NFL", and JFF if it means top of the AFCN and kicking @$$ in the NFL in general.
Johnny=Winning? Yeah, sign me up for that.
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Love him or hate him brandon weeden came into the nfl a little bit older than most. He had good basic skills but never had the opportunity to develop those skills in the big league. 1 reason was his age but another was he never played the same system for very long. Brady quinn should have come in to camp immediately.
I think Colt McCoy may have been a victim of multiple coordinators and schemes.
I hope Johnny's attitude is real and not just a public relations ploy. If so I think he will work hard, learn the system and eventually be the guy we've been looking for.
And if Hoyer takes us to the superbowl before johnny is ready even better.
Love him or hate him brandon weeden came into the nfl a little bit older than most. He had good basic skills but never had the opportunity to develop those skills in the big league. 1 reason was his age but another was he never played the same system for very long. Brady quinn should have come in to camp immediately.
I think Colt McCoy may have been a victim of multiple coordinators and schemes.
I hope Johnny's attitude is real and not just a public relations ploy. If so I think he will work hard, learn the system and eventually be the guy we've been looking for.
And if Hoyer takes us to the superbowl before johnny is ready even better.
Nah Steve, We-done has problems that IMHO aren't fixable at the NFL level. He certainly has an NFL caliber arm- but then again if it was all about arm, Jeff George, Jamarcus Russell, and Daunte Culpepper would all be in the HOF. (Supposedly Culpepper was verified to be able to throw the rock 90 yards in the air). As we saw in the Lions game that underhanded We-done toss was exhibit A of poor decision making, the guy folded like an accordion under pressure. Quinn suffered from much the same problems, as well as only having an average arm, Finally according to Jason J, McCoy's major problem is once he gets moved off his spot his field vision & accuracy go to hell. At least Colt will have a long career in the NFL as a backup- he's not starter material.
I agree 100% I hope Manziel wasn't just a PR ploy- but the Browns really didn't need to sell more tickets. BTW the guy I love to hate on ESPN (Collin Cowherd) said yesterday- "lotsa luck if you think you're going to be able to control the media hype". Thanks for nothing ESPN. It's one of the reasons I was against the Browns drafting him. The circus is rolling into town starting with OTAs. I hope the team can handle the distractions. If you're a Manziel lover you're going to be in Heaven, it's going to be all Johnny all the time. RGIII who? Gilbert who? "Hey you over there what's ur name, you play for the Browns? What's it like playing with Johnny Football?"
If we win with JF, great- if we don't ESPN moves on to next year's model.
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It's like some people want Cleveland to be completely forgotten about.
There's no dignity in being poor, looked over, and unwanted.
I hope JF brings literally every single media member in the USA to Cleveland. Every. Single. One. I want 12 of the top 13 Sportscenter topics about Cleveland. Win or lose, it's great for the franchise.
Coupling the boom in coverage brought upon by Johnny Football with stadium upgrades this season and the unveiling of a new jersey next season will bring about media coverage the likes of which no Clevelander has ever experienced.
The spotlight being on Cleveland will bring sponsorship deals. The sponsors will bring money.
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The franchise is going through stadium and gameday upgrades. The stadium and gameday upgrades will help sell more tickets, which brings in more money.
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The team is unveiling a brand new jersey. Unveiling a brand new jersey means new merchandise. New merchandise means even more money.
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Even more money will help bring in even bigger free agents.
I know it's hard for many of you to understand this, but more players are caring about the way they look. Not just their physical looks, but the way their persona looks as well.
You're a 24 year old FA:
Do you want to play for a team with dated jerseys, an owner that gives zero shits about football, a FO headed by a fat blowhard dinosaur, a meek head coach, and a 32 year old quarterback at the bottom of the league in every statistical category?
Or would you rather play for a team with brand new jerseys, an updated stadium, a fiery owner that cares about his team, a FO run by a decently young former player, a head coach that takes no bullshit from the media, and a quarterback that is all over ESPN and getting you on TV every week?
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Love him or hate him brandon weeden came into the nfl a little bit older than most. He had good basic skills but never had the opportunity to develop those skills in the big league. 1 reason was his age but another was he never played the same system for very long. Brady quinn should have come in to camp immediately.
I think Colt McCoy may have been a victim of multiple coordinators and schemes.
I hope Johnny's attitude is real and not just a public relations ploy. If so I think he will work hard, learn the system and eventually be the guy we've been looking for.
And if Hoyer takes us to the superbowl before johnny is ready even better.
Love him or hate him brandon weeden came into the nfl a little bit older than most. He had good basic skills but never had the opportunity to develop those skills in the big league.
He was an arm attached to a cabbage... and worse yet that cabbage's second choice was pro football.
You're a 24 year old FA:
Do you want to play for a team with dated jerseys, an owner that gives zero shits about football, a FO headed by a fat blowhard dinosaur, a meek head coach, and a 32 year old quarterback at the bottom of the league in every statistical category?
Or would you rather play for a team with brand new jerseys, an updated stadium, a fiery owner that cares about his team, a FO run by a decently young former player, a head coach that takes no bullshit from the media, and a quarterback that is all over ESPN and getting you on TV every week?
Is that a trick question?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Love him or hate him brandon weeden came into the nfl a little bit older than most. He had good basic skills but never had the opportunity to develop those skills in the big league.
He was an arm attached to a cabbage... and worse yet that cabbage's second choice was pro football.
You're a 24 year old FA:
Do you want to play for a team with dated jerseys, an owner that gives zero shits about football, a FO headed by a fat blowhard dinosaur, a meek head coach, and a 32 year old quarterback at the bottom of the league in every statistical category?
Or would you rather play for a team with brand new jerseys, an updated stadium, a fiery owner that cares about his team, a FO run by a decently young former player, a head coach that takes no bullshit from the media, and a quarterback that is all over ESPN and getting you on TV every week?
Is that a trick question?
He was an arm attached to a cabbage... and worse yet that cabbage's second choice was pro football.
Is that a trick question?
Tell me what you would like, then.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Johnny wants to play for whoever drafted him. He'd say the same thing regardless.
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Johnny wants to play for whoever drafted him. He'd say the same thing regardless.
but what else should he say, i hate being in cleveland?
he's been coached in giving the right answer more than a murder suspect taking the stand.
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It's like some people want Cleveland to be completely forgotten about.
There's no dignity in being poor, looked over, and unwanted.
I hope JF brings literally every single media member in the USA to Cleveland. Every. Single. One. I want 12 of the top 13 Sportscenter topics about Cleveland. Win or lose, it's great for the franchise.
Coupling the boom in coverage brought upon by Johnny Football with stadium upgrades this season and the unveiling of a new jersey next season will bring about media coverage the likes of which no Clevelander has ever experienced.
The spotlight being on Cleveland will bring sponsorship deals. The sponsors will bring money.
+
The franchise is going through stadium and gameday upgrades. The stadium and gameday upgrades will help sell more tickets, which brings in more money.
+
The team is unveiling a brand new jersey. Unveiling a brand new jersey means new merchandise. New merchandise means even more money.
=
Even more money will help bring in even bigger free agents.
I know it's hard for many of you to understand this, but more players are caring about the way they look. Not just their physical looks, but the way their persona looks as well.
You're a 24 year old FA:
Do you want to play for a team with dated jerseys, an owner that gives zero shits about football, a FO headed by a fat blowhard dinosaur, a meek head coach, and a 32 year old quarterback at the bottom of the league in every statistical category?
Or would you rather play for a team with brand new jerseys, an updated stadium, a fiery owner that cares about his team, a FO run by a decently young former player, a head coach that takes no bullshit from the media, and a quarterback that is all over ESPN and getting you on TV every week?
the unveiling of a new jersey next season
ugh. really?
hey all you johnny fans ya gotta pony up again next year. lol!
he'll look great in silver/grey/brown and orange.....HA!
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i want johnny football because i want to see our qb taunt the opponent, make the money sign in ben rothelisburgers face and take a shit on andy daltons head
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i want johnny football because i want to see our qb taunt the opponent, make the money sign in ben rothelisburgers face and take a shit on andy daltons head
i want johnny football because i want to see our qb taunt the opponent, make the money sign in ben rothelisburgers face and take a shit on andy daltons head
This.
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@everlastingxxx said:
I think there is a serious lack of talent on the Browns offense. It’s not just a QB problem. The good thing is you don’t need need many points with the Browns D. A guy like Manziel can get you that last game winning drive.
wrong.
cameron was the #1 or 2 TE last year in total numbers. we had no running game which will NOT be the case this year. and if 2 or 3 guys step up as wide receivers we'll definitely be a lot better than last year. yeah we're not the denver broncos but either are they anymore. ha!
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Tell me what you would like, then.
Fair and balanced for a change? Equal time for every franchise? OK, I give up- that's not the way the media in general, and BS-PN in particular operate anymore. Last BB season it was more about if the f**king Lakers were going to make the playoffs instead of the 3 other teams that had equally legit shots. TMZ, Cult of Personality- what have you. Just my personal affront- I was damn sick and tired of ESPN giving RGIII virtual blow jobs every f**cking day- that is, until he blew out his knee, and then it was all about his F**king rehab. Same shit is gonna happen with JF- if you like it fine- but JF is NOT bigger than the Browns. You want the National Spotlight on the Browns- then give Gilbert equal time dammit. Gee, why isn't that going to happen? And there's going to be some serious negative publicity coming down the pike. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/05/former_top_executive_of_jimmy.html Read between the lines- the Feds are going to bust Haslam- it's merely a question of when. I suppose publicity is half cool- when the Cavs had LeBum, man the BSPN crew couldn't suck up enough Cleveland basketball. Fer sure JF better not bust- Fox Sports was actually laughing about the Cavs getting the #1 overall pick again.
@everlastingxxx said:
I think there is a serious lack of talent on the Browns offense. It’s not just a QB problem. The good thing is you don’t need need many points with the Browns D. A guy like Manziel can get you that last game winning drive.
You have 2 Pro Bowlers on the offensive line, we added a stud RT\RG, Cameron made the Pro Bowl @ TE, Ben Tate isn't exactly a stiff, And pending the length of Gordon's suspension- we happen to have a legit #1 wr.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Thats right Tate was added this offseason. I know about Hawkins, he came in second on Michael Irvins reality show a few years ago. I thought he should have won but Irvin chose the bigger WR.
And then the proper vet WRs, Austin, Bennett & Burleson. Not exactly studs (that's why they were FAs still available in April/May), but Outside of Gordon, our WRs were awful last year. These guys are most likely an upgrade over Little, Benjamin & Bess.
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There isn't any controversy/fame with Gilbert.
The media thrives on controversy, and what's hot
to get ratings.
Weird how that one 7th round player gets so much attention,
whereas so many other terrific players don't. Why, I thought it was all about football....
Actually, I knew better with the media.
Terrific is boring. Flamboyant, and/or controversial in some way, tends
to boost ratings.
I'm sick of it, too.
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Johnny Football wins the Heisman by breaking 40+ year old Archie Manning SEC records that neither one of his more heralded sons even broke. And all this without saying a word to the media until after the last game of the season.
There is a reason behind all that media hype. The first redshirt freshman Heisman winner in history comes along with a name he didn't particularly care for and suddenly there is a circus?
Just be happy Cleveland that a ton of money gets infused into the community when the circus stays any length of time. And with Johnny you will find behind all the smoke there truly is one hell of a fire to take an underdog and make it top dog. That's just the way he's made. Part of the thing that keeps the fire burning is people who say, "He can't do this, that or the other." Kid is driven to prove everyone wrong. Just ask the now unemployed Mack Brown the cost of not taking him seriously.
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i want johnny football because i want to see our qb taunt the opponent, make the money sign in ben rothelisburgers face and take a shit on andy daltons head.
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The Browns will NOT ruin Manziel.
The Browns have never had a Quarterback LIKE Manziel before.
Manziel is the best talent that Cleveland has had at the QB spot since I've first started watching them in 98-99, finally being loyal Browns fans is going to pay off. I can see why a lot of the Shitty Ohioans are pissy, they all secretly wish they had Manziel coming into his prime, the excitement he brings, the passion... but alas, you are stuck with a middle-aged washed up rapist has-been for a QB leading an aging team. Is someone bitter now? Does wittle johnny wanna jump off the Steelers bandwagon and come home now?
My advice... DO IT!
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its baffling to me that hoyer automatically gets the job. He played decent in those 3 games, not amazing. 3 games should never solidify a starting spot. They should let the quarterbacks compete. Hoyers resume is nothing special so far in his career, if he beats out manziel by looking better than him im ok with that. But to tell johnny to act like a backup is bad. All backups should be preparing like they are starters.
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