OTA Early Report (Which Means Nothing)
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I heard Whiter is not only playing like a beast but being that team leader we were lacking with Ward and Jackson. He is helping not only the young DB's but the linebackers and D Linemen too.
I am PUMPED.
I heard Whiter is not only playing like a beast but being that team leader we were lacking with Ward and Jackson. He is helping not only the young DB's but the linebackers and D Linemen too.
I am PUMPED.
i'm telling you are secondary is gonna crack some skulls this season. whitner was a huge FA pickup. pass on some championship work ethics and intensity.
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"Way too reasonable" - Tell my wife please
And something I stole from the texags website
"You Manzeil supporters need to realize that running around everyone won't work at this level. He has lost the job because he's not the best quarterback, not because the coach is stupid. Just admit it, he's not at Tivy anymore, and Showers is going to be the quarterback.-Media, Summer 2012 "
And after the Heisman Year Showers transferred to Texas El Paso.
And something I stole from the texags website
"You Manzeil supporters need to realize that running around everyone won't work at this level. He has lost the job because he's not the best quarterback, not because the coach is stupid. Just admit it, he's not at Tivy anymore, and Showers is going to be the quarterback.
-Media, Summer 2012 "[/size]
Must be major "media"... especially since it misspelled JM's name. SuperMarket Shopper Monthly perhaps?
I heard Whiter is not only playing like a beast but being that team leader we were lacking with Ward and Jackson. He is helping not only the young DB's but the linebackers and D Linemen too.
I am PUMPED.
Are players allowed to "play like beasts" in OTAs?
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Fuck Hoyer. Dude is a 30 year old with shit stats and a handful of starts
Oh, he's from Cleveland? Must be great.
Guy sucks a bag of dicks.
walter? is that you?
Dude, you're sounding like a real pussy lately.
You bitching about Manziel is almost enough for me to become a JF homerboy.
well i guess you'd have to make room somewhere on your tyler thigpen stroke-it shrine for the manziel bobble head. then you can have your uncles NEIL and BOB over to check it out.
walter? is that you?
well i guess you'd have to make room somewhere on your tyler thigpen stroke-it shrine for the manziel bobble head. then you can have your uncles NEIL and BOB over to check it out.
My shrine is devoted to starting the quarterback who gives us the best chance to win.
Not blowing a quarterback because he's from
Cleveland, or because he's colleges best QB, or because he's from Coastal.
Shanahan is expected to run heavily out of the Pistol formation. Thigpen's experience, both in college and in the NFL, is from the pistol.
My evaluations are based off the personnel and scheme fit, not off where a guy was born.
Thigpen fits the scheme better and he just so happens to have more NFL experience than any other QB on the roster. He's also not coming off a rather devastating knee injury.
What exactly makes Hoyer the guaranteed starter? His mediocre performance against the leagues worst passing defense? His mediocre performance against a defense missing 3 of their 4 defensive backfield starters?
Don't try to act better than the JF fanboys when you're equally as guilty of worshipping Hoyer for no reason other than he's from Cleveland. The wins in Minnesota and Cincy were nice, but it was hardly like Hoyer put them team on his back.
It's like Tour, Mike and I are the only ones who actually judge players based off how they can help the football team on the field.
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Cause remember that time he came right into college and started right away instead of red shirting.
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Pretty Decent Article from Cleveland Plain Dealer.
http://www.cleveland.com/livingston/index.ssf/2014/05/johnny_backup.html
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walter? is that you?
well i guess you'd have to make room somewhere on your tyler thigpen stroke-it shrine for the manziel bobble head. then you can have your uncles NEIL and BOB over to check it out.
My shrine is devoted to starting the quarterback who gives us the best chance to win.
Not blowing a quarterback because he's from
Cleveland, or because he's colleges best QB, or because he's from Coastal.
Shanahan is expected to run heavily out of the Pistol formation. Thigpen's experience, both in college and in the NFL, is from the pistol.
My evaluations are based off the personnel and scheme fit, not off where a guy was born.
Thigpen fits the scheme better and he just so happens to have more NFL experience than any other QB on the roster. He's also not coming off a rather devastating knee injury.
What exactly makes Hoyer the guaranteed starter? His mediocre performance against the leagues worst passing defense? His mediocre performance against a defense missing 3 of their 4 defensive backfield starters?
Don't try to act better than the JF fanboys when you're equally as guilty of worshipping Hoyer for no reason other than he's from Cleveland. The wins in Minnesota and Cincy were nice, but it was hardly like Hoyer put them team on his back.
It's like Tour, Mike and I are the only ones who actually judge players based off how they can help the football team on the field.
My shrine is devoted to starting the quarterback who gives us the best chance to win.
Not blowing a quarterback because he's from
Cleveland, or because he's colleges best QB, or because he's from Coastal.
Shanahan is expected to run heavily out of the Pistol formation. Thigpen's experience, both in college and in the NFL, is from the pistol.
My evaluations are based off the personnel and scheme fit, not off where a guy was born.
Thigpen fits the scheme better and he just so happens to have more NFL experience than any other QB on the roster. He's also not coming off a rather devastating knee injury.
What exactly makes Hoyer the guaranteed starter? His mediocre performance against the leagues worst passing defense? His mediocre performance against a defense missing 3 of their 4 defensive backfield starters?
Don't try to act better than the JF fanboys when you're equally as guilty of worshipping Hoyer for no reason other than he's from Cleveland. The wins in Minnesota and Cincy were nice, but it was hardly like Hoyer put them team on his back.
It's like Tour, Mike and I are the only ones who actually judge players based off how they can help the football team on the field.
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Lovingly Gay said:
I'm really curious. Exactly how do you know this when he hasn't taken a single snap in an NFL game? Remember some of these guys?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/photos/7001/nfl-draft-quarterbacks-first-round-busts/1/
But dude, they weren't Johnny Mother F-------ing Football.
But dude, they weren't Johnny Mother F-------ing Football.
Standing in Shreveport in 2012. Surrounded by children, mothers and elderly. All well-to-do God Fearing Christian folk, cheering on the team but getting nervous. Then, on a 3rd and 20-30+, he breaks free, nobody touches him, 70+ yards to the end zone. As he is running and folks are holding their breath, with what seemed to be instinct, impulse, but feeling completely unconscious and involuntary, I shouted "That's Johnny Mother Fvcking Football!"
Did these proper folks, these families and Godly folk sneer? No sir, not a one. They cheered. The children, the parents, the gentiles, turn to this slightly embarrassed and intoxicated man, and cheer.
Johnny Mother Fvcing Football folks.
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But dude, they weren't Johnny Mother F-------ing Football.
Standing in Shreveport in 2012. Surrounded by children, mothers and elderly. All well-to-do God Fearing Christian folk, cheering on the team but getting nervous. Then, on a 3rd and 20-30+, he breaks free, nobody touches him, 70+ yards to the end zone. As he is running and folks are holding their breath, with what seemed to be instinct, impulse, but feeling completely unconscious and involuntary, I shouted "That's Johnny Mother Fvcking Football!"
Did these proper folks, these families and Godly folk sneer? No sir, not a one. They cheered. The children, the parents, the gentiles, turn to this slightly embarrassed and intoxicated man, and cheer.
Johnny Mother Fvcing Football folks.
Standing in Shreveport in 2012. Surrounded by children, mothers and elderly. All well-to-do God Fearing Christian folk, cheering on the team but getting nervous. Then, on a 3rd and 20-30+, he breaks free, nobody touches him, 70+ yards to the end zone. As he is running and folks are holding their breath, with what seemed to be instinct, impulse, but feeling completely unconscious and involuntary, I shouted "That's Johnny Mother Fvcking Football!"
Did these proper folks, these families and Godly folk sneer? No sir, not a one. They cheered. The children, the parents, the gentiles, turn to this slightly embarrassed and intoxicated man, and cheer.
Johnny Mother Fvcing Football folks.
FYI, you don't have to obscure what you are saying here. It is OK to say "Johnny Mother Fucking Football".
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walter? is that you?
well i guess you'd have to make room somewhere on your tyler thigpen stroke-it shrine for the manziel bobble head. then you can have your uncles NEIL and BOB over to check it out.
My shrine is devoted to starting the quarterback who gives us the best chance to win.
Not blowing a quarterback because he's from
Cleveland, or because he's colleges best QB, or because he's from Coastal.
Shanahan is expected to run heavily out of the Pistol formation. Thigpen's experience, both in college and in the NFL, is from the pistol.
My evaluations are based off the personnel and scheme fit, not off where a guy was born.
Thigpen fits the scheme better and he just so happens to have more NFL experience than any other QB on the roster. He's also not coming off a rather devastating knee injury.
What exactly makes Hoyer the guaranteed starter? His mediocre performance against the leagues worst passing defense? His mediocre performance against a defense missing 3 of their 4 defensive backfield starters?
Don't try to act better than the JF fanboys when you're equally as guilty of worshipping Hoyer for no reason other than he's from Cleveland. The wins in Minnesota and Cincy were nice, but it was hardly like Hoyer put them team on his back.
It's like Tour, Mike and I are the only ones who actually judge players based off how they can help the football team on the field.
My shrine is devoted to starting the quarterback who gives us the best chance to win.
Not blowing a quarterback because he's from
Cleveland, or because he's colleges best QB, or because he's from Coastal.
Shanahan is expected to run heavily out of the Pistol formation. Thigpen's experience, both in college and in the NFL, is from the pistol.
My evaluations are based off the personnel and scheme fit, not off where a guy was born.
Thigpen fits the scheme better and he just so happens to have more NFL experience than any other QB on the roster. He's also not coming off a rather devastating knee injury.
What exactly makes Hoyer the guaranteed starter? His mediocre performance against the leagues worst passing defense? His mediocre performance against a defense missing 3 of their 4 defensive backfield starters?
Don't try to act better than the JF fanboys when you're equally as guilty of worshipping Hoyer for no reason other than he's from Cleveland. The wins in Minnesota and Cincy were nice, but it was hardly like Hoyer put them team on his back.
It's like Tour, Mike and I are the only ones who actually judge players based off how they can help the football team on the field.
bullshit. you just came on and villified someone for not liking manziel and you got butthurt when i dissed thigpen. so you DO NOT care who gives us the best chance to win. you are just another QB fagboy.
btw i'm not from cleveland so there is no loyalty there with me BUT between all the queefs lining up to scream for 'their' guy (thigpen, manziel, the guy from SC?) you'd think hoyer was just some bum.
don't be crying when the dude is the browns starting QB. i sure as hell won't be if he's not.
just fuggin win.
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And something I stole from the texags website
"You Manzeil supporters need to realize that running around everyone won't work at this level. He has lost the job because he's not the best quarterback, not because the coach is stupid. Just admit it, he's not at Tivy anymore, and Showers is going to be the quarterback.
-Media, Summer 2012 "[/size]
Must be major "media"... especially since it misspelled JM's name. SuperMarket Shopper Monthly perhaps?
I heard Whiter is not only playing like a beast but being that team leader we were lacking with Ward and Jackson. He is helping not only the young DB's but the linebackers and D Linemen too.
I am PUMPED.
Are players allowed to "play like beasts" in OTAs?
Must be major "media"... especially since it misspelled JM's name. SuperMarket Shopper Monthly perhaps?
Are players allowed to "play like beasts" in OTAs?
What happened to this board, people calling each other out and being bitches? Yes in his drills the writer who was THERE, said he looked like he is ready in that sense. It's called hyperbole, look it up.
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My shrine is devoted to starting the quarterback who gives us the best chance to win.
Not blowing a quarterback because he's from
Cleveland, or because he's colleges best QB, or because he's from Coastal.
Shanahan is expected to run heavily out of the Pistol formation. Thigpen's experience, both in college and in the NFL, is from the pistol.
My evaluations are based off the personnel and scheme fit, not off where a guy was born.
Thigpen fits the scheme better and he just so happens to have more NFL experience than any other QB on the roster. He's also not coming off a rather devastating knee injury.
What exactly makes Hoyer the guaranteed starter? His mediocre performance against the leagues worst passing defense? His mediocre performance against a defense missing 3 of their 4 defensive backfield starters?
Don't try to act better than the JF fanboys when you're equally as guilty of worshipping Hoyer for no reason other than he's from Cleveland. The wins in Minnesota and Cincy were nice, but it was hardly like Hoyer put them team on his back.
It's like Tour, Mike and I are the only ones who actually judge players based off how they can help the football team on the field.
bullshit. you just came on and villified someone for not liking manziel and you got butthurt when i dissed thigpen. so you DO NOT care who gives us the best chance to win. you are just another QB fagboy.
btw i'm not from cleveland so there is no loyalty there with me BUT between all the queefs lining up to scream for 'their' guy (thigpen, manziel, the guy from SC?) you'd think hoyer was just some bum.
don't be crying when the dude is the browns starting QB. i sure as hell won't be if he's not.
just fuggin win.
bullshit. you just came on and villified someone for not liking manziel and you got butthurt when i dissed thigpen. so you DO NOT care who gives us the best chance to win. you are just another QB fagboy.
btw i'm not from cleveland so there is no loyalty there with me BUT between all the queefs lining up to scream for 'their' guy (thigpen, manziel, the guy from SC?) you'd think hoyer was just some bum.
don't be crying when the dude is the browns starting QB. i sure as hell won't be if he's not.
just fuggin win.
I didn't villify him for not liking Manziel. I villified him for sounding like a pussy.
When 95% of your posts are passive-aggressive, sarcastic posts about a single player that you didn't want, you sound like a pussy. I didn't even want Manziel, but you don't see me being a butthurt bitch about it.
And that's the thing, Hoyer is some bum. With the way people are claiming that he's the bonafide starter and that Manziel or Thigpen have to unseat him (like it's a fucking huge challenge), you'd think Hoyer was an All-Pro world beater. He's not.
The dude is a career backup who just happened to have one very mediocre game and one decent game for us that resulted in wins. He has a career QB rating of 77.4, has thrown only one more TD than INT (7:6), and has played for just as many teams as he has started and completed an NFL game.
If he was from Buttfuck, Oregon, nobody would care this much about him. But, since he's from Cleveland, he just happens to be the fucking heir apparent.
The level of homerism, whether its centered around Manziel or Hoyer, is rampant around here.
I don't care who fucking wins the job, but don't claim that it's Hoyer's to lose or Manziel's to win. It's anybody's to win. There's a solid chance Hoyer doesn't even make the roster. If you were unbiased, you'd see that.
One of these 4 QB's has to go...why is it so crazy that it's the 30 year old with only four starts, a bad knee and less experience running the Pistol than the other three QB's?
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But, but he was a star at St. Ignatius.
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bullshit. you just came on and villified someone for not liking manziel and you got butthurt when i dissed thigpen. so you DO NOT care who gives us the best chance to win. you are just another QB fagboy.
btw i'm not from cleveland so there is no loyalty there with me BUT between all the queefs lining up to scream for 'their' guy (thigpen, manziel, the guy from SC?) you'd think hoyer was just some bum.
don't be crying when the dude is the browns starting QB. i sure as hell won't be if he's not.
just fuggin win.
I didn't villify him for not liking Manziel. I villified him for sounding like a pussy.
When 95% of your posts are passive-aggressive, sarcastic posts about a single player that you didn't want, you sound like a pussy. I didn't even want Manziel, but you don't see me being a butthurt bitch about it.
And that's the thing, Hoyer is some bum. With the way people are claiming that he's the bonafide starter and that Manziel or Thigpen have to unseat him (like it's a fucking huge challenge), you'd think Hoyer was an All-Pro world beater. He's not.
The dude is a career backup who just happened to have one very mediocre game and one decent game for us that resulted in wins. He has a career QB rating of 77.4, has thrown only one more TD than INT (7:6), and has played for just as many teams as he has started and completed an NFL game.
If he was from Buttfuck, Oregon, nobody would care this much about him. But, since he's from Cleveland, he just happens to be the fucking heir apparent.
The level of homerism, whether its centered around Manziel or Hoyer, is rampant around here.
I don't care who fucking wins the job, but don't claim that it's Hoyer's to lose or Manziel's to win. It's anybody's to win. There's a solid chance Hoyer doesn't even make the roster. If you were unbiased, you'd see that.
One of these 4 QB's has to go...why is it so crazy that it's the 30 year old with only four starts, a bad knee and less experience running the Pistol than the other three QB's?
I didn't villify him for not liking Manziel. I villified him for sounding like a pussy.
When 95% of your posts are passive-aggressive, sarcastic posts about a single player that you didn't want, you sound like a pussy. I didn't even want Manziel, but you don't see me being a butthurt bitch about it.
And that's the thing, Hoyer is some bum. With the way people are claiming that he's the bonafide starter and that Manziel or Thigpen have to unseat him (like it's a fucking huge challenge), you'd think Hoyer was an All-Pro world beater. He's not.
The dude is a career backup who just happened to have one very mediocre game and one decent game for us that resulted in wins. He has a career QB rating of 77.4, has thrown only one more TD than INT (7:6), and has played for just as many teams as he has started and completed an NFL game.
If he was from Buttfuck, Oregon, nobody would care this much about him. But, since he's from Cleveland, he just happens to be the fucking heir apparent.
The level of homerism, whether its centered around Manziel or Hoyer, is rampant around here.
I don't care who fucking wins the job, but don't claim that it's Hoyer's to lose or Manziel's to win. It's anybody's to win. There's a solid chance Hoyer doesn't even make the roster. If you were unbiased, you'd see that.
One of these 4 QB's has to go...why is it so crazy that it's the 30 year old with only four starts, a bad knee and less experience running the Pistol than the other three QB's?
Is he the sure fire starter. No. But your a fucking idiot if you think there is any chance he doesn't make the roster.
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I didn't villify him for not liking Manziel. I villified him for sounding like a pussy.
When 95% of your posts are passive-aggressive, sarcastic posts about a single player that you didn't want, you sound like a pussy. I didn't even want Manziel, but you don't see me being a butthurt bitch about it.
And that's the thing, Hoyer is some bum. With the way people are claiming that he's the bonafide starter and that Manziel or Thigpen have to unseat him (like it's a fucking huge challenge), you'd think Hoyer was an All-Pro world beater. He's not.
The dude is a career backup who just happened to have one very mediocre game and one decent game for us that resulted in wins. He has a career QB rating of 77.4, has thrown only one more TD than INT (7:6), and has played for just as many teams as he has started and completed an NFL game.
If he was from Buttfuck, Oregon, nobody would care this much about him. But, since he's from Cleveland, he just happens to be the fucking heir apparent.
The level of homerism, whether its centered around Manziel or Hoyer, is rampant around here.
I don't care who fucking wins the job, but don't claim that it's Hoyer's to lose or Manziel's to win. It's anybody's to win. There's a solid chance Hoyer doesn't even make the roster. If you were unbiased, you'd see that.
One of these 4 QB's has to go...why is it so crazy that it's the 30 year old with only four starts, a bad knee and less experience running the Pistol than the other three QB's?
Is he the sure fire starter. No. But your a fucking idiot if you think there is any chance he doesn't make the roster.
Is he the sure fire starter. No. But your a fucking idiot if you think there is any chance he doesn't make the roster.
I'd love to know why.
Other than "He's Brian Hoyer, duhhhh."
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4th Quarter Hoyer is the fucking man.
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My goodness the idiocy is thick in here.
It's ok to not think Manziel is the guy.
But to argue Hoyer is without offering points to explain your position is?
What athletically can Hoyer do Manziel can't?
The mental bs is over rated.
1. Manziel will catch up in 1/2 a season at minimum
2. Hoyer actually has less experience than Manziel. Manziel has played with all eyes on him under extreme scrutiny and has shined. Moyer hasn't
Reading defenses is great. Making plays is better. Hoyer isn't a playmaker. Otherwise he would have been making plays the last 5 years. Manziel has 1,000 more yards in 2 seasons than Hoyer has in 9. Read that again.
Hoyer wasn't mobile before his knee injury. What can we expect now?
Dismiss as fanboys or whatever
But you're offering zero logic in the form of a rebuttal.
It's like saying jimmy at the tire shop should be qb1 cause he throws billeted to the boys after thanksgiving dinner.
The only logic I see for Hoyer over Manziel actually makes tebow over Hoyer.
Prove you position. I don't see it, seems illogical.
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My goodness the idiocy is thick in here.
It's ok to not think Manziel is the guy.
But to argue Hoyer is without offering points to explain your position is?
What athletically can Hoyer do Manziel can't?
The mental bs is over rated.
1. Manziel will catch up in 1/2 a season at minimum
2. Hoyer actually has less experience than Manziel. Manziel has played with all eyes on him under extreme scrutiny and has shined. Moyer hasn't
Reading defenses is great. Making plays is better. Hoyer isn't a playmaker. Otherwise he would have been making plays the last 5 years. Manziel has 1,000 more yards in 2 seasons than Hoyer has in 9. Read that again.
Hoyer wasn't mobile before his knee injury. What can we expect now?
Dismiss as fanboys or whatever
But you're offering zero logic in the form of a rebuttal.
It's like saying jimmy at the tire shop should be qb1 cause he throws billeted to the boys after thanksgiving dinner.
The only logic I see for Hoyer over Manziel actually makes tebow over Hoyer.
Prove you position. I don't see it, seems illogical.
My goodness the idiocy is thick in here.
It's ok to not think Manziel is the guy.
But to argue Hoyer is without offering points to explain your position is?
What athletically can Hoyer do Manziel can't?
The mental bs is over rated.
1. Manziel will catch up in 1/2 a season at minimum
2. Hoyer actually has less experience than Manziel. Manziel has played with all eyes on him under extreme scrutiny and has shined. Moyer hasn't
Reading defenses is great. Making plays is better. Hoyer isn't a playmaker. Otherwise he would have been making plays the last 5 years. Manziel has 1,000 more yards in 2 seasons than Hoyer has in 9. Read that again.
Hoyer wasn't mobile before his knee injury. What can we expect now?
Dismiss as fanboys or whatever
But you're offering zero logic in the form of a rebuttal.
It's like saying jimmy at the tire shop should be qb1 cause he throws billeted to the boys after thanksgiving dinner.
The only logic I see for Hoyer over Manziel actually makes tebow over Hoyer.
Prove you position. I don't see it, seems illogical.
Cause Ray Farmer says so... i think he knows more than all of us so stfu. Manziel isn't yours anymore so get over it plz.
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The mental part of the game is overrated?
Do you even watch football....manzealoit?
Good god.....the enlarged bandwagon is dragging down the collective football IQ in Cleveland.....and it was already low enough.
I'm not even gonna waste my time to explain all that is wrong with that idiotic post.
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The mental part of the game is overrated?
Do you even watch football....manzealoit?
Good god.....the enlarged bandwagon is dragging down the collective football IQ in Cleveland.....and it was already low enough.
I'm not even gonna waste my time to explain all that is wrong with that idiotic post.
The mental part of the game is overrated?
Do you even watch football....manzealoit?
Good god.....the enlarged bandwagon is dragging down the collective football IQ in Cleveland.....and it was already low enough.
I'm not even gonna waste my time to explain all that is wrong with that idiotic post.
I'm not a Manzealot by any means but I think he makes a (somewhat) good point.
What exactly qualifies Hoyer? What are the reasons behind the love affair?
Because, for all I can see, the people who are claiming Hoyer to be the day one starter have absolutely nothing to back it up with.
Nothing to do with football, at least.
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