New Browns Fans Introduce Yourselves
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Thinking of moving to either Wilmington area or Charleston in a couple years.
Either one. Cleveland sucks. I just visited and never thought the city could get worse. Who bombed the roads?
Either one. Cleveland sucks. I just visited and never thought the city could get worse. Who bombed the roads?
We had a really bad winter here. You know the drill, salt, plows, equals pot holes.
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Thinking of moving to either Wilmington area or Charleston in a couple years.
Either one. Cleveland sucks. I just visited and never thought the city could get worse. Who bombed the roads?
Either one. Cleveland sucks. I just visited and never thought the city could get worse. Who bombed the roads?
Kasich. Governor of Ohio. He has given tax break after tax break to the wealthy such that now the money that comes back to the cities has been cut drastically....and the road budgets have all suffered. And with the kinds of winters we have with freeze and thaw the roads really deteriorate.
With the loss of hundreds of thousands of dollars from estate taxes the local city here had to get a .25 percent increase in the local income tax to apply to the roads. So, now, instead of the dead folks paying a minor percent of their million dollar or so estate, those costs now have to be born by all the minimum wage earners....or middle income wager earners.
Like I said elsewhere: bring on the pot tax.
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Thinking of moving to either Wilmington area or Charleston in a couple years.
You and everyone else from the midwest. FWIW...I've lived in Wilmington and prefer it over Charleston.
You and everyone else from the midwest. FWIW...I've lived in Wilmington and prefer it over Charleston.
What happened to Southern Hospitality?
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i just dont know why its so bad to have a favorite player. Im a Jets fan, a Browns fan and a Panthers fan cause thats where I was born, my family comes from, and where I live now. Back when Bo Jackson played I was also a Raiders fan because Bo was my favorite player and thats where he got drafted. I pull for Notre Dame in football we have had some good players recentely but no transcendent ones. Had Johnny Football played for Notre Dame I would have been a fan of his team almost anywhere he would have went (obvious exceptions like New England / Miami), but had he played for ND and got drafted by San Diego I'm sure I would have instantly became a San Diego fan.
Johnny Football is one of the most hyped guys ever, partly because hes a QB, but he's far from the only transcendent player to move on from college to the pros. I'm sure there are alot of Oklahoma fans that now pull for the Vikings because of Peterson, I'm sure there are alot of Stanford fans that pull for Indy, Georgia Tech with Detriot. Yea some are short term fans, some are long term fans, some are bandwagon and some are diehard. I don't understand the need to beat your chest and talk down other new fans because your a 'diehard'. Yea your a bigger fan than me Cleveland is only my no.2 team, I freely acknowledge that and respect that like I'm sure almost all the Texas A&M / Browns new fans do. No need to beat your chest and turn your nose up, every team has bandwagon fans and it's not that bad of a thing. Personally I like my team to be relevant, for people to be talking about them, for them to be interesting, and I want them to have some bandwagon fans. Some will be laughable at jumping on the bandwagon (something I don't think any of the 'new browns fans' have really done), some are good fans, potential fans, looking for a team because for whatever reason they weren't born in a big city metro with an nfl team, or any area where college football is king and didn't grow up rooting for an nfl team as a kid or they never really got into football or their dad was never a football fan and / or never passed a team and a passion down to them. That doesn't mean these people aren't good fans now or that they can't become diehard lifelong fans of a team, if they are passionate and looking for a good reason to adopt and nfl team and start following the nfl more than they use to or actually or already follow a ton but dont have a team yet.
Time will tell but why be so abrasive and argumentive about it. I don't understand it. Do business turn down new customers? or do they look for new markets to penetrate and establish new clintele? isn't growing the fan base a good thing for the team, and the fans whose team will get more coverage, more nationally televised games, more money so going a little over the cap or spending for that free agent isn't such a big concern? I mean I swear some of the fans I read are like tortured Cubs fans you would rather the team stink forever and console yourself at how great of a hardcore fan you are than actually succeed and have to share the "glory" of being a fan with a few more people.
I guess the thing about being a fan of so many players and teams that players you like play for is that it seems really sort of like a chick thing. Comes off soundy a little flighty and flaky.
I mean, perhaps it is hormonal for you.
I guess the thing about being a fan of so many players and teams that players you like play for is that it seems really sort of like a chick thing. Comes off soundy a little flighty and flaky.
I mean, perhaps it is hormonal for you.
I'm a fan of my teams and I'm a diehard fan. I be Jets/Mets/Knicks/Rangers/Red Storm/Fighting Irish fans till I die. However, I am also a fan of the game, like obviously you are as well. I am a fan of football so I appreciate the game. I like players / teams that personify how I believe the game should be played. I don't know what is feminine about that. I also root for guys that I think are underappreciated or guys that the media bangs on for stupid things (think Randy Moss) to me thats more about principle and standing up for you beliefs, which is the exact opposite of being flakey. To stereotype my opinions as a "chick thing" and acting like I just hop on bandwagons because of popularity / looks / being really good or whatever couldn't be further from the truth.
Did you not root for Kosar or have a soft spot for him after he left the Browns? If you didn't I would say your the one acting like a chick by both being a "what can you do for me" person and by being bitter. If you did root for him I would say that is no different than me still rooting for a player who used to play for my team which in this case is a college team. So if I want to root for guys like Teo or Theo Riddick because I respect the way they play the game and their work ethic and passion and the fact that they were the heart of NDs team and gave me some really good memories and made watching the team more enjoyable when they move to the next level how is that different than pulling for Kosar or anyone else who played the right way, had success in Cleveland and left on good terms (not talking Lebron here, more guys like Kosar or Jim Thome on the Indians).
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I Love SC. Its just miserable from May-August. Especially in Columbia. If you can find a job in the Upstate (Greenville Area) its gorgeous!
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First and foremost I'm a Washington Redskins fan and overall fan of the NFL.
^^Full disclosure^^
I live in Baltimore.
But, I am also a huge football fan. I watch some college and a ton of the NFL w/ NFL package on Direct TV.
I started watching A&M b/c of their offense with Jerrod Johnson then Ryan Tannehill then Manziel.
I am also a fan of Terrence West ofTowson and local Bmore kid.
I'm also a draftnerd and you guys got one of my favorite prospects with ILB Christian Kirksey who imho has a skillset that rivals 1st round pick Ryan Shazier.
As a Redskin's fan I have some knowledge of Kyle's offense.
I came to this board to keep tabs on Manziel.
The national media is turning your Front Office's handling of Manziel into a joke.
And wanted to find out if this is true at the local level.
Being a Redskin's fan I'm well aware of how local and national perceptions can be very different.
Just wanted to get the skinny.
Cheers to a (hopefully) good season.
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In my view, the local media seem to be basically saying that the coach/FO are doing the right thing, making JFF earn the starting job. Of course, the hope is that he gets it at some point and then doesn't let go of it for 15 years - but then they won't complain if Hoyer does the same.
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First and foremost I'm a Washington Redskins fan and overall fan of the NFL.
^^Full disclosure^^
I live in Baltimore.
But, I am also a huge football fan. I watch some college and a ton of the NFL w/ NFL package on Direct TV.
I started watching A&M b/c of their offense with Jerrod Johnson then Ryan Tannehill then Manziel.
I am also a fan of Terrence West ofTowson and local Bmore kid.
I'm also a draftnerd and you guys got one of my favorite prospects with ILB Christian Kirksey who imho has a skillset that rivals 1st round pick Ryan Shazier.
As a Redskin's fan I have some knowledge of Kyle's offense.
I came to this board to keep tabs on Manziel.
The national media is turning your Front Office's handling of Manziel into a joke.
And wanted to find out if this is true at the local level.
Being a Redskin's fan I'm well aware of how local and national perceptions can be very different.
Just wanted to get the skinny.
Cheers to a (hopefully) good season.
First and foremost I'm a Washington Redskins fan and overall fan of the NFL.
^^Full disclosure^^
I live in Baltimore.
But, I am also a huge football fan. I watch some college and a ton of the NFL w/ NFL package on Direct TV.
I started watching A&M b/c of their offense with Jerrod Johnson then Ryan Tannehill then Manziel.
I am also a fan of Terrence West ofTowson and local Bmore kid.
I'm also a draftnerd and you guys got one of my favorite prospects with ILB Christian Kirksey who imho has a skillset that rivals 1st round pick Ryan Shazier.
As a Redskin's fan I have some knowledge of Kyle's offense.
I came to this board to keep tabs on Manziel.
The national media is turning your Front Office's handling of Manziel into a joke.
And wanted to find out if this is true at the local level.
Being a Redskin's fan I'm well aware of how local and national perceptions can be very different.
Just wanted to get the skinny.
Cheers to a (hopefully) good season.
The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
NE Ohio is one of the cheapest places to live in the country. Many people I know around here are moving or have moved to the Carolinas (mostly NC though).
Personally, I like the climate of the southwest. My visit to Sedona AZ had me convinced to retire there someday.
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I guess the thing about being a fan of so many players and teams that players you like play for is that it seems really sort of like a chick thing. Comes off soundy a little flighty and flaky.
I mean, perhaps it is hormonal for you.
I'm a fan of my teams and I'm a diehard fan. I be Jets/Mets/Knicks/Rangers/Red Storm/Fighting Irish fans till I die. However, I am also a fan of the game, like obviously you are as well. I am a fan of football so I appreciate the game. I like players / teams that personify how I believe the game should be played. I don't know what is feminine about that. I also root for guys that I think are underappreciated or guys that the media bangs on for stupid things (think Randy Moss) to me thats more about principle and standing up for you beliefs, which is the exact opposite of being flakey. To stereotype my opinions as a "chick thing" and acting like I just hop on bandwagons because of popularity / looks / being really good or whatever couldn't be further from the truth.
Did you not root for Kosar or have a soft spot for him after he left the Browns? If you didn't I would say your the one acting like a chick by both being a "what can you do for me" person and by being bitter. If you did root for him I would say that is no different than me still rooting for a player who used to play for my team which in this case is a college team. So if I want to root for guys like Teo or Theo Riddick because I respect the way they play the game and their work ethic and passion and the fact that they were the heart of NDs team and gave me some really good memories and made watching the team more enjoyable when they move to the next level how is that different than pulling for Kosar or anyone else who played the right way, had success in Cleveland and left on good terms (not talking Lebron here, more guys like Kosar or Jim Thome on the Indians).
I'm a fan of my teams and I'm a diehard fan. I be Jets/Mets/Knicks/Rangers/Red Storm/Fighting Irish fans till I die. However, I am also a fan of the game, like obviously you are as well. I am a fan of football so I appreciate the game. I like players / teams that personify how I believe the game should be played. I don't know what is feminine about that. I also root for guys that I think are underappreciated or guys that the media bangs on for stupid things (think Randy Moss) to me thats more about principle and standing up for you beliefs, which is the exact opposite of being flakey. To stereotype my opinions as a "chick thing" and acting like I just hop on bandwagons because of popularity / looks / being really good or whatever couldn't be further from the truth.
OK,,,,,except for the fact that it sounds like exactly what you have done. I can only go by what I read.
Did you not root for Kosar or have a soft spot for him after he left the Browns?
For him, perhaps because there was a feeling he got a raw deal here, but not particularly for the teams he played with.
If you didn't I would say your the one acting like a chick by both being a "what can you do for me" person and by being bitter. If you did root for him I would say that is no different than me still rooting for a player who used to play for my team which in this case is a college team. So if I want to root for guys like Teo or Theo Riddick because I respect the way they play the game and their work ethic and passion and the fact that they were the heart of NDs team and gave me some really good memories and made watching the team more enjoyable when they move to the next level how is that different than pulling for Kosar or anyone else who played the right way, had success in Cleveland and left on good terms (not talking Lebron here, more guys like Kosar or Jim Thome on the Indians).
Again, wishing a player you liked well is one thing. Rooting for the team he is on is another. I had no interest in the Phillies because Thome was on them or for the Cowboys (I would have preferred the Bills had beat them) or for the Dolphins.
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First and foremost I'm a Washington Redskins fan and overall fan of the NFL.
^^Full disclosure^^
I live in Baltimore.
But, I am also a huge football fan. I watch some college and a ton of the NFL w/ NFL package on Direct TV.
I started watching A&M b/c of their offense with Jerrod Johnson then Ryan Tannehill then Manziel.
I am also a fan of Terrence West ofTowson and local Bmore kid.
I'm also a draftnerd and you guys got one of my favorite prospects with ILB Christian Kirksey who imho has a skillset that rivals 1st round pick Ryan Shazier.
As a Redskin's fan I have some knowledge of Kyle's offense.
I came to this board to keep tabs on Manziel.
The national media is turning your Front Office's handling of Manziel into a joke.
And wanted to find out if this is true at the local level.
Being a Redskin's fan I'm well aware of how local and national perceptions can be very different.
Just wanted to get the skinny.
Cheers to a (hopefully) good season.
First and foremost I'm a Washington Redskins fan and overall fan of the NFL.
^^Full disclosure^^
I live in Baltimore.
But, I am also a huge football fan. I watch some college and a ton of the NFL w/ NFL package on Direct TV.
I started watching A&M b/c of their offense with Jerrod Johnson then Ryan Tannehill then Manziel.
I am also a fan of Terrence West ofTowson and local Bmore kid.
I'm also a draftnerd and you guys got one of my favorite prospects with ILB Christian Kirksey who imho has a skillset that rivals 1st round pick Ryan Shazier.
As a Redskin's fan I have some knowledge of Kyle's offense.
I came to this board to keep tabs on Manziel.
The national media is turning your Front Office's handling of Manziel into a joke.
And wanted to find out if this is true at the local level.
Being a Redskin's fan I'm well aware of how local and national perceptions can be very different.
Just wanted to get the skinny.
Cheers to a (hopefully) good season.
No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.
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NE Ohio is one of the cheapest places to live in the country. Many people I know around here are moving or have moved to the Carolinas (mostly NC though).
Personally, I like the climate of the southwest. My visit to Sedona AZ had me convinced to retire there someday.
NE Ohio is one of the cheapest places to live in the country. Many people I know around here are moving or have moved to the Carolinas (mostly NC though).
Personally, I like the climate of the southwest. My visit to Sedona AZ had me convinced to retire there someday.
Hmm, it worries me that we think alike.
On the other hand, I have a brother that lives near there, so that is one reason I have also thought hard about that area. -
I Love SC. Its just miserable from May-August. Especially in Columbia. If you can find a job in the Upstate (Greenville Area) its gorgeous!
I Love SC. Its just miserable from May-August. Especially in Columbia. If you can find a job in the Upstate (Greenville Area) its gorgeous!
I was at Parris Island for awhile and remember the heat and the Sand Fleas.
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I was at Parris Island for awhile and remember the heat and the Sand Fleas.
The only places worth going in SC are on the coast.
Upstate is garbage. It's hot, humid and miserable in the summer and there's very little breeze. Columbia is dirty, there's nothing ever going on, and it seemingly takes four hours to drive to anywhere from Columbia.
Clemson, however, is by far the worst. It's a cow pasture with a school plopped on it.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
First and foremost I'm a Washington Redskins fan and overall fan of the NFL.
^^Full disclosure^^
I live in Baltimore.
But, I am also a huge football fan. I watch some college and a ton of the NFL w/ NFL package on Direct TV.
I started watching A&M b/c of their offense with Jerrod Johnson then Ryan Tannehill then Manziel.
I am also a fan of Terrence West ofTowson and local Bmore kid.
I'm also a draftnerd and you guys got one of my favorite prospects with ILB Christian Kirksey who imho has a skillset that rivals 1st round pick Ryan Shazier.
As a Redskin's fan I have some knowledge of Kyle's offense.
I came to this board to keep tabs on Manziel.
The national media is turning your Front Office's handling of Manziel into a joke.
And wanted to find out if this is true at the local level.
Being a Redskin's fan I'm well aware of how local and national perceptions can be very different.
Just wanted to get the skinny.
Cheers to a (hopefully) good season.
The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.
The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.
No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.
Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
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over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc
seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
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The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.
No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.
Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
I don't think any of that shit means a cabbage fart when it comes to how this team will perform in the fall. So get the fuck over it. No one gives a shit about what the view from outside looks like. This is fucking Cleveland, not some pusswad city.
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The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.
No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.
Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
I think its them trying to temper immediate expectations from him.Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
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GREAT. JUST GREAT.
We've drafted a guy that goes all Bret Favre on Samantha Schacher. Wasted a 22nd pick in the 1st round.
I hope Haslam, Pettine, and Jim Brown can get a handle on Johnny Nathan's.
Looks like the QB job is Hoyer's, with Shaw backing him up.
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GREAT. JUST GREAT.
We've drafted a guy that goes all Bret Favre on Samantha Schacher. Wasted a 22nd pick in the 1st round.
I hope Haslam, Pettine, and Jim Brown can get a handle on Johnny Nathan's.
Looks like the QB job is Hoyer's, with Shaw backing him up.
TyperWoods said:
GREAT. JUST GREAT.
We've drafted a guy that goes all Bret Favre on Samantha Schacher. Wasted a 22nd pick in the 1st round.
LOL... real circus material there...
Google is your friend. Samantha says the whole thing is a hoax perpetrated by a "serial filer" and has never met Manziel... so there's that.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/05/samantha_schacher_says_johnny.html
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NE Ohio is one of the cheapest places to live in the country. Many people I know around here are moving or have moved to the Carolinas (mostly NC though).
Personally, I like the climate of the southwest. My visit to Sedona AZ had me convinced to retire there someday.
Hmm, it worries me that we think alike.
On the other hand, I have a brother that lives near there, so that is one reason I have also thought hard about that area.Hmm, it worries me that we think alike.
On the other hand, I have a brother that lives near there, so that is one reason I have also thought hard about that area.Should I be offended?
Why are you worried that we think alike?
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