New Browns Fans Introduce Yourselves
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First and foremost I'm a Washington Redskins fan and overall fan of the NFL.
^^Full disclosure^^
I live in Baltimore.
But, I am also a huge football fan. I watch some college and a ton of the NFL w/ NFL package on Direct TV.
I started watching A&M b/c of their offense with Jerrod Johnson then Ryan Tannehill then Manziel.
I am also a fan of Terrence West ofTowson and local Bmore kid.
I'm also a draftnerd and you guys got one of my favorite prospects with ILB Christian Kirksey who imho has a skillset that rivals 1st round pick Ryan Shazier.
As a Redskin's fan I have some knowledge of Kyle's offense.
I came to this board to keep tabs on Manziel.
The national media is turning your Front Office's handling of Manziel into a joke.
And wanted to find out if this is true at the local level.
Being a Redskin's fan I'm well aware of how local and national perceptions can be very different.
Just wanted to get the skinny.
Cheers to a (hopefully) good season.
First and foremost I'm a Washington Redskins fan and overall fan of the NFL.
^^Full disclosure^^
I live in Baltimore.
But, I am also a huge football fan. I watch some college and a ton of the NFL w/ NFL package on Direct TV.
I started watching A&M b/c of their offense with Jerrod Johnson then Ryan Tannehill then Manziel.
I am also a fan of Terrence West ofTowson and local Bmore kid.
I'm also a draftnerd and you guys got one of my favorite prospects with ILB Christian Kirksey who imho has a skillset that rivals 1st round pick Ryan Shazier.
As a Redskin's fan I have some knowledge of Kyle's offense.
I came to this board to keep tabs on Manziel.
The national media is turning your Front Office's handling of Manziel into a joke.
And wanted to find out if this is true at the local level.
Being a Redskin's fan I'm well aware of how local and national perceptions can be very different.
Just wanted to get the skinny.
Cheers to a (hopefully) good season.
The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
NE Ohio is one of the cheapest places to live in the country. Many people I know around here are moving or have moved to the Carolinas (mostly NC though).
Personally, I like the climate of the southwest. My visit to Sedona AZ had me convinced to retire there someday.
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I guess the thing about being a fan of so many players and teams that players you like play for is that it seems really sort of like a chick thing. Comes off soundy a little flighty and flaky.
I mean, perhaps it is hormonal for you.
I'm a fan of my teams and I'm a diehard fan. I be Jets/Mets/Knicks/Rangers/Red Storm/Fighting Irish fans till I die. However, I am also a fan of the game, like obviously you are as well. I am a fan of football so I appreciate the game. I like players / teams that personify how I believe the game should be played. I don't know what is feminine about that. I also root for guys that I think are underappreciated or guys that the media bangs on for stupid things (think Randy Moss) to me thats more about principle and standing up for you beliefs, which is the exact opposite of being flakey. To stereotype my opinions as a "chick thing" and acting like I just hop on bandwagons because of popularity / looks / being really good or whatever couldn't be further from the truth.
Did you not root for Kosar or have a soft spot for him after he left the Browns? If you didn't I would say your the one acting like a chick by both being a "what can you do for me" person and by being bitter. If you did root for him I would say that is no different than me still rooting for a player who used to play for my team which in this case is a college team. So if I want to root for guys like Teo or Theo Riddick because I respect the way they play the game and their work ethic and passion and the fact that they were the heart of NDs team and gave me some really good memories and made watching the team more enjoyable when they move to the next level how is that different than pulling for Kosar or anyone else who played the right way, had success in Cleveland and left on good terms (not talking Lebron here, more guys like Kosar or Jim Thome on the Indians).
I'm a fan of my teams and I'm a diehard fan. I be Jets/Mets/Knicks/Rangers/Red Storm/Fighting Irish fans till I die. However, I am also a fan of the game, like obviously you are as well. I am a fan of football so I appreciate the game. I like players / teams that personify how I believe the game should be played. I don't know what is feminine about that. I also root for guys that I think are underappreciated or guys that the media bangs on for stupid things (think Randy Moss) to me thats more about principle and standing up for you beliefs, which is the exact opposite of being flakey. To stereotype my opinions as a "chick thing" and acting like I just hop on bandwagons because of popularity / looks / being really good or whatever couldn't be further from the truth.
OK,,,,,except for the fact that it sounds like exactly what you have done. I can only go by what I read.
Did you not root for Kosar or have a soft spot for him after he left the Browns?
For him, perhaps because there was a feeling he got a raw deal here, but not particularly for the teams he played with.
If you didn't I would say your the one acting like a chick by both being a "what can you do for me" person and by being bitter. If you did root for him I would say that is no different than me still rooting for a player who used to play for my team which in this case is a college team. So if I want to root for guys like Teo or Theo Riddick because I respect the way they play the game and their work ethic and passion and the fact that they were the heart of NDs team and gave me some really good memories and made watching the team more enjoyable when they move to the next level how is that different than pulling for Kosar or anyone else who played the right way, had success in Cleveland and left on good terms (not talking Lebron here, more guys like Kosar or Jim Thome on the Indians).
Again, wishing a player you liked well is one thing. Rooting for the team he is on is another. I had no interest in the Phillies because Thome was on them or for the Cowboys (I would have preferred the Bills had beat them) or for the Dolphins.
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First and foremost I'm a Washington Redskins fan and overall fan of the NFL.
^^Full disclosure^^
I live in Baltimore.
But, I am also a huge football fan. I watch some college and a ton of the NFL w/ NFL package on Direct TV.
I started watching A&M b/c of their offense with Jerrod Johnson then Ryan Tannehill then Manziel.
I am also a fan of Terrence West ofTowson and local Bmore kid.
I'm also a draftnerd and you guys got one of my favorite prospects with ILB Christian Kirksey who imho has a skillset that rivals 1st round pick Ryan Shazier.
As a Redskin's fan I have some knowledge of Kyle's offense.
I came to this board to keep tabs on Manziel.
The national media is turning your Front Office's handling of Manziel into a joke.
And wanted to find out if this is true at the local level.
Being a Redskin's fan I'm well aware of how local and national perceptions can be very different.
Just wanted to get the skinny.
Cheers to a (hopefully) good season.
First and foremost I'm a Washington Redskins fan and overall fan of the NFL.
^^Full disclosure^^
I live in Baltimore.
But, I am also a huge football fan. I watch some college and a ton of the NFL w/ NFL package on Direct TV.
I started watching A&M b/c of their offense with Jerrod Johnson then Ryan Tannehill then Manziel.
I am also a fan of Terrence West ofTowson and local Bmore kid.
I'm also a draftnerd and you guys got one of my favorite prospects with ILB Christian Kirksey who imho has a skillset that rivals 1st round pick Ryan Shazier.
As a Redskin's fan I have some knowledge of Kyle's offense.
I came to this board to keep tabs on Manziel.
The national media is turning your Front Office's handling of Manziel into a joke.
And wanted to find out if this is true at the local level.
Being a Redskin's fan I'm well aware of how local and national perceptions can be very different.
Just wanted to get the skinny.
Cheers to a (hopefully) good season.
No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.
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NE Ohio is one of the cheapest places to live in the country. Many people I know around here are moving or have moved to the Carolinas (mostly NC though).
Personally, I like the climate of the southwest. My visit to Sedona AZ had me convinced to retire there someday.
NE Ohio is one of the cheapest places to live in the country. Many people I know around here are moving or have moved to the Carolinas (mostly NC though).
Personally, I like the climate of the southwest. My visit to Sedona AZ had me convinced to retire there someday.
Hmm, it worries me that we think alike.
On the other hand, I have a brother that lives near there, so that is one reason I have also thought hard about that area. -
I Love SC. Its just miserable from May-August. Especially in Columbia. If you can find a job in the Upstate (Greenville Area) its gorgeous!
I Love SC. Its just miserable from May-August. Especially in Columbia. If you can find a job in the Upstate (Greenville Area) its gorgeous!
I was at Parris Island for awhile and remember the heat and the Sand Fleas.
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I was at Parris Island for awhile and remember the heat and the Sand Fleas.
The only places worth going in SC are on the coast.
Upstate is garbage. It's hot, humid and miserable in the summer and there's very little breeze. Columbia is dirty, there's nothing ever going on, and it seemingly takes four hours to drive to anywhere from Columbia.
Clemson, however, is by far the worst. It's a cow pasture with a school plopped on it.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
First and foremost I'm a Washington Redskins fan and overall fan of the NFL.
^^Full disclosure^^
I live in Baltimore.
But, I am also a huge football fan. I watch some college and a ton of the NFL w/ NFL package on Direct TV.
I started watching A&M b/c of their offense with Jerrod Johnson then Ryan Tannehill then Manziel.
I am also a fan of Terrence West ofTowson and local Bmore kid.
I'm also a draftnerd and you guys got one of my favorite prospects with ILB Christian Kirksey who imho has a skillset that rivals 1st round pick Ryan Shazier.
As a Redskin's fan I have some knowledge of Kyle's offense.
I came to this board to keep tabs on Manziel.
The national media is turning your Front Office's handling of Manziel into a joke.
And wanted to find out if this is true at the local level.
Being a Redskin's fan I'm well aware of how local and national perceptions can be very different.
Just wanted to get the skinny.
Cheers to a (hopefully) good season.
The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.
The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.
No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.
Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc
seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
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The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.
No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.
Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
I don't think any of that shit means a cabbage fart when it comes to how this team will perform in the fall. So get the fuck over it. No one gives a shit about what the view from outside looks like. This is fucking Cleveland, not some pusswad city.
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The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.
No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.
Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
I think its them trying to temper immediate expectations from him.Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
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GREAT. JUST GREAT.
We've drafted a guy that goes all Bret Favre on Samantha Schacher. Wasted a 22nd pick in the 1st round.
I hope Haslam, Pettine, and Jim Brown can get a handle on Johnny Nathan's.
Looks like the QB job is Hoyer's, with Shaw backing him up.
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GREAT. JUST GREAT.
We've drafted a guy that goes all Bret Favre on Samantha Schacher. Wasted a 22nd pick in the 1st round.
I hope Haslam, Pettine, and Jim Brown can get a handle on Johnny Nathan's.
Looks like the QB job is Hoyer's, with Shaw backing him up.
TyperWoods said:
GREAT. JUST GREAT.
We've drafted a guy that goes all Bret Favre on Samantha Schacher. Wasted a 22nd pick in the 1st round.
LOL... real circus material there...
Google is your friend. Samantha says the whole thing is a hoax perpetrated by a "serial filer" and has never met Manziel... so there's that.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/05/samantha_schacher_says_johnny.html
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NE Ohio is one of the cheapest places to live in the country. Many people I know around here are moving or have moved to the Carolinas (mostly NC though).
Personally, I like the climate of the southwest. My visit to Sedona AZ had me convinced to retire there someday.
Hmm, it worries me that we think alike.
On the other hand, I have a brother that lives near there, so that is one reason I have also thought hard about that area.Hmm, it worries me that we think alike.
On the other hand, I have a brother that lives near there, so that is one reason I have also thought hard about that area.Should I be offended?
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The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.
No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.
Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
Local view varies with the individual's temperature due to JM fever. It's very critical, if temp is as high as yours seems to be.
The "spotlight" came with the pick.
The only thing meant for in-house only that was "leaked" was the draft day text from JM. You remember it? It's the "wreck this league" one that made you wet.
But, yes, there are noobs that need to stfu.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.
No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.
Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
The local view is that we want a winning football team. True Browns fans don't give a fuck who the quarterback is as long as he wins. I hope JFF is that QB.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Hmm, it worries me that we think alike.
On the other hand, I have a brother that lives near there, so that is one reason I have also thought hard about that area.Should I be offended?
Why are you worried that we think alike? -
Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
The local view is that we want a winning football team. True Browns fans don't give a fuck who the quarterback is as long as he wins. I hope JFF is that QB.
The local view is that we want a winning football team. True Browns fans don't give a fuck who the quarterback is as long as he wins. I hope JFF is that QB.
And if someone else, so be it.
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I was at Parris Island for awhile and remember the heat and the Sand Fleas.
The only places worth going in SC are on the coast.
Upstate is garbage. It's hot, humid and miserable in the summer and there's very little breeze. Columbia is dirty, there's nothing ever going on, and it seemingly takes four hours to drive to anywhere from Columbia.
Clemson, however, is by far the worst. It's a cow pasture with a school plopped on it.
The only places worth going in SC are on the coast.
Upstate is garbage. It's hot, humid and miserable in the summer and there's very little breeze. Columbia is dirty, there's nothing ever going on, and it seemingly takes four hours to drive to anywhere from Columbia.
Clemson, however, is by far the worst. It's a cow pasture with a school plopped on it.
Glad u liked it
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Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
The local view is that we want a winning football team. True Browns fans don't give a fuck who the quarterback is as long as he wins. I hope JFF is that QB.
The local view is that we want a winning football team. True Browns fans don't give a fuck who the quarterback is as long as he wins. I hope JFF is that QB.
So you're saying you are not a true Browns fan?
Either that or you don't give a fuck about things you hope for...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.
I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.
From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.
(a) can't keep things in-house
(
over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' HoyerIt seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.
It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.
Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.
I don't think any of that shit means a cabbage fart when it comes to how this team will perform in the fall. So get the fuck over it. No one gives a shit about what the view from outside looks like. This is fucking Cleveland, not some pusswad city.
I don't think any of that shit means a cabbage fart...
Sweet!
Oh, wait let me guess....your the internet tough guy huh? That's your schtick right? Amiright or amiright? Lol, what a joke.
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