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  • NE Ohio is one of the cheapest places to live in the country. Many people I know around here are moving or have moved to the Carolinas (mostly NC though).

    Personally, I like the climate of the southwest. My visit to Sedona AZ had me convinced to retire there someday.

    @tml1138 said:

    NE Ohio is one of the cheapest places to live in the country. Many people I know around here are moving or have moved to the Carolinas (mostly NC though).

    Personally, I like the climate of the southwest. My visit to Sedona AZ had me convinced to retire there someday.

    Hmm, it worries me that we think alike. 🙁 On the other hand, I have a brother that lives near there, so that is one reason I have also thought hard about that area.

  • I Love SC. Its just miserable from May-August. Especially in Columbia. If you can find a job in the Upstate (Greenville Area) its gorgeous!

    @scdawg82 said:

    I Love SC. Its just miserable from May-August. Especially in Columbia. If you can find a job in the Upstate (Greenville Area) its gorgeous!

    I was at Parris Island for awhile and remember the heat and the Sand Fleas.

  • @scdawg82 said:

    I Love SC. Its just miserable from May-August. Especially in Columbia. If you can find a job in the Upstate (Greenville Area) its gorgeous!

    I was at Parris Island for awhile and remember the heat and the Sand Fleas.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I was at Parris Island for awhile and remember the heat and the Sand Fleas.

    The only places worth going in SC are on the coast.

    Upstate is garbage. It's hot, humid and miserable in the summer and there's very little breeze. Columbia is dirty, there's nothing ever going on, and it seemingly takes four hours to drive to anywhere from Columbia.

    Clemson, however, is by far the worst. It's a cow pasture with a school plopped on it.

  • @edromeo said:

    First and foremost I'm a Washington Redskins fan and overall fan of the NFL.

    ^^Full disclosure^^

    I live in Baltimore.

    But, I am also a huge football fan. I watch some college and a ton of the NFL w/ NFL package on Direct TV.

    I started watching A&M b/c of their offense with Jerrod Johnson then Ryan Tannehill then Manziel.

    I am also a fan of Terrence West ofTowson and local Bmore kid.

    I'm also a draftnerd and you guys got one of my favorite prospects with ILB Christian Kirksey who imho has a skillset that rivals 1st round pick Ryan Shazier.

    As a Redskin's fan I have some knowledge of Kyle's offense.

    I came to this board to keep tabs on Manziel.

    The national media is turning your Front Office's handling of Manziel into a joke.

    And wanted to find out if this is true at the local level.

    Being a Redskin's fan I'm well aware of how local and national perceptions can be very different.

    Just wanted to get the skinny.

    Cheers to a (hopefully) good season.

    The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.

    @the-gipper said:

    No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.

    Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.

    I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.

    From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.

    (a) can't keep things in-house

    (😎 over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc

    © seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' Hoyer

    It seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.

    It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.

    Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.

    @the-gipper said:

    No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.

    Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.

    I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.

    From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.

    (a) can't keep things in-house

    (😎 over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc

    © seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' Hoyer

    It seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.

    It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.

    Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.

    @edromeo said:

    Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.

    I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.

    From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.

    (a) can't keep things in-house

    ( 😎 over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc

    © seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' Hoyer

    It seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.

    It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.

    Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.

    I don't think any of that shit means a cabbage fart when it comes to how this team will perform in the fall. So get the fuck over it. No one gives a shit about what the view from outside looks like. This is fucking Cleveland, not some pusswad city.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.

    @the-gipper said:

    No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.

    Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.

    I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.

    From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.

    (a) can't keep things in-house

    (😎 over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc

    © seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' Hoyer

    It seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.

    It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.

    Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.

    @edromeo said:

    Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.

    I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.

    From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.

    (a) can't keep things in-house

    (😎 over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc

    © seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' Hoyer

    It seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.

    It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.

    Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.

    I think its them trying to temper immediate expectations from him.
  • GREAT. JUST GREAT.

    We've drafted a guy that goes all Bret Favre on Samantha Schacher. Wasted a 22nd pick in the 1st round.

    I hope Haslam, Pettine, and Jim Brown can get a handle on Johnny Nathan's.

    Looks like the QB job is Hoyer's, with Shaw backing him up.

  • GREAT. JUST GREAT.

    We've drafted a guy that goes all Bret Favre on Samantha Schacher. Wasted a 22nd pick in the 1st round.

    I hope Haslam, Pettine, and Jim Brown can get a handle on Johnny Nathan's.

    Looks like the QB job is Hoyer's, with Shaw backing him up.

    TyperWoods said:

    GREAT. JUST GREAT.

    We've drafted a guy that goes all Bret Favre on Samantha Schacher. Wasted a 22nd pick in the 1st round.

    LOL... real circus material there...

    Google is your friend. Samantha says the whole thing is a hoax perpetrated by a "serial filer" and has never met Manziel... so there's that.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/05/samantha_schacher_says_johnny.html

  • @tml1138 said:

    NE Ohio is one of the cheapest places to live in the country. Many people I know around here are moving or have moved to the Carolinas (mostly NC though).

    Personally, I like the climate of the southwest. My visit to Sedona AZ had me convinced to retire there someday.

    Hmm, it worries me that we think alike. 🙁 On the other hand, I have a brother that lives near there, so that is one reason I have also thought hard about that area.

    @the-gipper said:

    Hmm, it worries me that we think alike. 🙁 On the other hand, I have a brother that lives near there, so that is one reason I have also thought hard about that area.

    Should I be offended? 😉 Why are you worried that we think alike?

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.

    @the-gipper said:

    No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.

    Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.

    I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.

    From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.

    (a) can't keep things in-house

    (😎 over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc

    © seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' Hoyer

    It seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.

    It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.

    Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.

    @edromeo said:

    I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.

    From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.

    (a) can't keep things in-house

    ( 😎 over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc

    © seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' Hoyer

    It seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.

    It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.

    Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.

    Local view varies with the individual's temperature due to JM fever. It's very critical, if temp is as high as yours seems to be.

    The "spotlight" came with the pick.

    The only thing meant for in-house only that was "leaked" was the draft day text from JM. You remember it? It's the "wreck this league" one that made you wet.

    But, yes, there are noobs that need to stfu.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    The national media is nothing more than a circus that would do anything they can to disrupt the browns training camps and turn the whole off season into a farce. The browns are doing the right thing by telling them to hit the bricks.

    @the-gipper said:

    No, we think that the National Media are idiots and have no clue how a coaching staff or front office need to handle a football team....and for the most part I think we are right. They are just whining because they didn't get full access. Too bad.

    Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.

    I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.

    From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.

    (a) can't keep things in-house

    (😎 over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc

    © seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' Hoyer

    It seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.

    It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.

    Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.

    @edromeo said:

    Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.

    I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.

    From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.

    (a) can't keep things in-house

    ( 😎 over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc

    © seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' Hoyer

    It seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.

    It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.

    Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.

    The local view is that we want a winning football team. True Browns fans don't give a fuck who the quarterback is as long as he wins. I hope JFF is that QB.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Hmm, it worries me that we think alike. 🙁 On the other hand, I have a brother that lives near there, so that is one reason I have also thought hard about that area.

    Should I be offended? 😉 Why are you worried that we think alike?

    @tml1138 said:

    Should I be offended? 😉 Why are you worried that we think alike?

    Just smak, folderrall and all that.

  • @edromeo said:

    Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.

    I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.

    From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.

    (a) can't keep things in-house

    ( 😎 over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc

    © seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' Hoyer

    It seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.

    It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.

    Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.

    The local view is that we want a winning football team. True Browns fans don't give a fuck who the quarterback is as long as he wins. I hope JFF is that QB.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    The local view is that we want a winning football team. True Browns fans don't give a fuck who the quarterback is as long as he wins. I hope JFF is that QB.

    And if someone else, so be it.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I was at Parris Island for awhile and remember the heat and the Sand Fleas.

    The only places worth going in SC are on the coast.

    Upstate is garbage. It's hot, humid and miserable in the summer and there's very little breeze. Columbia is dirty, there's nothing ever going on, and it seemingly takes four hours to drive to anywhere from Columbia.

    Clemson, however, is by far the worst. It's a cow pasture with a school plopped on it.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The only places worth going in SC are on the coast.

    Upstate is garbage. It's hot, humid and miserable in the summer and there's very little breeze. Columbia is dirty, there's nothing ever going on, and it seemingly takes four hours to drive to anywhere from Columbia.

    Clemson, however, is by far the worst. It's a cow pasture with a school plopped on it.

    Glad u liked it

  • @edromeo said:

    Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.

    I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.

    From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.

    (a) can't keep things in-house

    ( 😎 over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc

    © seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' Hoyer

    It seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.

    It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.

    Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.

    The local view is that we want a winning football team. True Browns fans don't give a fuck who the quarterback is as long as he wins. I hope JFF is that QB.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    The local view is that we want a winning football team. True Browns fans don't give a fuck who the quarterback is as long as he wins. I hope JFF is that QB.

    So you're saying you are not a true Browns fan?

    Either that or you don't give a fuck about things you hope for...

  • @edromeo said:

    Right, right. Like I said, I'm well aware of the national media when it comes to the local team. My post wasn't about whether or not the national media is allowed to cover Manziel.

    I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.

    From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.

    (a) can't keep things in-house

    ( 😎 over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc

    © seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' Hoyer

    It seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.

    It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.

    Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.

    I don't think any of that shit means a cabbage fart when it comes to how this team will perform in the fall. So get the fuck over it. No one gives a shit about what the view from outside looks like. This is fucking Cleveland, not some pusswad city.

    @the-gipper said:

    I don't think any of that shit means a cabbage fart...

    Sweet!

    Oh, wait let me guess....your the internet tough guy huh? That's your schtick right? Amiright or amiright? Lol, what a joke.

  • @edromeo said:

    I was hoping to find out the local perception of how your owner and front office are handling Manziel.

    From the outside it looks pretty shoddy.

    (a) can't keep things in-house

    ( 😎 over reacting to Manziel 'celebrity' by telling him to 'act like a back-up' and '...this isn't hollywood' etc

    © seem to be going out of their way to show that Manziel is 'substantially behind' Hoyer

    It seems like the front office is creating the spotlight they are trying to quell.

    It seems as if Haslam and Farmer are media noobs that need to stfu.

    Just wondering what the local view is on Manziel's handling by the front office.

    Local view varies with the individual's temperature due to JM fever. It's very critical, if temp is as high as yours seems to be.

    The "spotlight" came with the pick.

    The only thing meant for in-house only that was "leaked" was the draft day text from JM. You remember it? It's the "wreck this league" one that made you wet.

    But, yes, there are noobs that need to stfu.

    @tour2ma said:

    Local view varies with the individual's temperature due to JM fever....

    But, yes, there are noobs that need to stfu.

    Your is the closest to a reply that I've received.

    But still don't know a thing about how Browns fans feel about how their 1st round QB is being handled by their current regime.

  • @the-gipper said:

    I don't think any of that shit means a cabbage fart...

    Sweet!

    Oh, wait let me guess....your the internet tough guy huh? That's your schtick right? Amiright or amiright? Lol, what a joke.

    @edromeo said:

    Sweet!

    Oh, wait let me guess....your the internet tough guy huh? That's your schtick right? Amiright or amiright? Lol, what a joke.

    No, I just don't think it matters ...at all....about what the national media....or you or I think about how the Browns are handling JFF. I dont' think anything the media is saying is indicative...at all...about how JFF and the coaching staff will interact.

    I am not sure how you may have misinterpreted that to think I was jumping into your shit. I just wasn't buying any of your premises.

  • @edromeo said:

    Sweet!

    Oh, wait let me guess....your the internet tough guy huh? That's your schtick right? Amiright or amiright? Lol, what a joke.

    No, I just don't think it matters ...at all....about what the national media....or you or I think about how the Browns are handling JFF. I dont' think anything the media is saying is indicative...at all...about how JFF and the coaching staff will interact.

    I am not sure how you may have misinterpreted that to think I was jumping into your shit. I just wasn't buying any of your premises.

    @the-gipper said:

    .......I am not sure how you may have misinterpreted that to think I was jumping into your shit. I just wasn't buying any of your premises.

    Me neither, lol...

    @the-gipper said:

    ...So get the fuck over it. No one gives a shit about what the view from outside looks like. This is fucking Cleveland, not some pusswad city.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    The local view is that we want a winning football team. True Browns fans don't give a fuck who the quarterback is as long as he wins. I hope JFF is that QB.

    So you're saying you are not a true Browns fan?

    Either that or you don't give a fuck about things you hope for...

    @tour2ma said:

    So you're saying you are not a true Browns fan?

    Either that or you don't give a fuck about things you hope for...

    Quit being a smart ass Ghoulardi. Been here a LOT longer then you. I still think the only reason you ever came here is because you are a McCoy fag.