And The Fickle Finger of Fate Award Goes To......
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Biggest WTF?!?! moment - Weeden's *second* underhand flip pass in a row
Most 'stand-up' guy - Colt McCoy?
Biggest WTF?!?! moment - Weeden's *second* underhand flip pass in a row
Most 'stand-up' guy - Colt McCoy?
Why did we dump McCoy completely again? Surely he was a good enough backup for us...or is that just creating a bad blood situation?
The 49ers felt good enough with him as backup all the way up to the conference championship game...
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Biggest WTF?!?! moment - Weeden's *second* underhand flip pass in a row
Most 'stand-up' guy - Colt McCoy?
Why did we dump McCoy completely again? Surely he was a good enough backup for us...or is that just creating a bad blood situation?
The 49ers felt good enough with him as backup all the way up to the conference championship game...
Why did we dump McCoy completely again? Surely he was a good enough backup for us...or is that just creating a bad blood situation?
The 49ers felt good enough with him as backup all the way up to the conference championship game...
Here's the conspiracy version:
There were a lot of people - and careful before we set PG off again - that felt McCoy got shafted when they drafted Weeden. They could have given him another year in the WCO, which to be fair suits his skill set more than Weeden's, and used the 22nd pick on another receiver/blocker and seen what would have happened.
But, that didn't happen, and so there was a portion of the fanbase that wanted McCoy as starter, when Heckert and Holmgren had moved on to Weeden entirely, and just wanted to eliminate any QB debate.
The real reason - his skillset didn't suit Chorv's downfield offense, where Weeden's did, and they wanted other backups who could come in and run the same offense. McCoy's arm is notoriously weak, possibly due to the big shoulder injury he suffered in college, and he would have struggled to run that offense, so when we saw the chance to get some draft pick for him, we took it.
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Why did we dump McCoy completely again? Surely he was a good enough backup for us...or is that just creating a bad blood situation?
The 49ers felt good enough with him as backup all the way up to the conference championship game...
Here's the conspiracy version:
There were a lot of people - and careful before we set PG off again - that felt McCoy got shafted when they drafted Weeden. They could have given him another year in the WCO, which to be fair suits his skill set more than Weeden's, and used the 22nd pick on another receiver/blocker and seen what would have happened.
But, that didn't happen, and so there was a portion of the fanbase that wanted McCoy as starter, when Heckert and Holmgren had moved on to Weeden entirely, and just wanted to eliminate any QB debate.
The real reason - his skillset didn't suit Chorv's downfield offense, where Weeden's did, and they wanted other backups who could come in and run the same offense. McCoy's arm is notoriously weak, possibly due to the big shoulder injury he suffered in college, and he would have struggled to run that offense, so when we saw the chance to get some draft pick for him, we took it.
Here's the conspiracy version:
There were a lot of people - and careful before we set PG off again - that felt McCoy got shafted when they drafted Weeden. They could have given him another year in the WCO, which to be fair suits his skill set more than Weeden's, and used the 22nd pick on another receiver/blocker and seen what would have happened.
But, that didn't happen, and so there was a portion of the fanbase that wanted McCoy as starter, when Heckert and Holmgren had moved on to Weeden entirely, and just wanted to eliminate any QB debate.
The real reason - his skillset didn't suit Chorv's downfield offense, where Weeden's did, and they wanted other backups who could come in and run the same offense. McCoy's arm is notoriously weak, possibly due to the big shoulder injury he suffered in college, and he would have struggled to run that offense, so when we saw the chance to get some draft pick for him, we took it.
I believe, yes, that McCoy was a mercy pick, seeing that he had already dropped to the mid to lower 3d round, Holmgren had 2 erd round picks and took McCoy....a big name college QB, on a flyer. And that is what he was, a flyer. But once he got into the offense, Holmgren just didn't see the spark in Colt. Weak arm, not enough command of the offense.
So, they wanted a new big armed qb. Enter Weeden.. Had the arm, no doubt. Did not, apparently have the ability to grasp the offense or make that big arm work accurately enough for him. So, Sayonara BW3.
Now in comes JFF. Built a bit more like McCoy, slightly shorter, somewhat more moblile. A much better arm than McCoy. As strong as Weeden's? Probably not. But hopefully he is much more adept at reading defenses and in his accuracy.
So, the Fickle Finger of Fate Award in the category of:
QB in which the most hope for the future is placed: John Manziel.
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Quinn has to be up there for best single game against Detroit in '09
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Quinn has to be up there for best single game against Detroit in '09
Nice job in a losing effort, but Derek Anderson threw 5 TDS in 51-45 win over Cincy, that has to be the best.
Zombo
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Brady Quinn beat the Shittsburgh Squeelers.
WSS
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Single worst play by a browns qb since 1999: Brady Quinn shitting his pants and taking a dive in the face of Ray Lewis against the ravens
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Can someone do a Best and worst on our ground game? think last year was our worst.
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Quinn has to be up there for best single game against Detroit in '09
Nice job in a losing effort, but Derek Anderson threw 5 TDS in 51-45 win over Cincy, that has to be the best.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Nice job in a losing effort, but Derek Anderson threw 5 TDS in 51-45 win over Cincy, that has to be the best.
Zombo
OK, maybe I am confuse. I thought that was Kelly Holcomb in that game? He was in a shootout with the Bengals.
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Zombo said:
Nice job in a losing effort, but Derek Anderson threw 5 TDS in 51-45 win over Cincy, that has to be the best.
Zombo
OK, maybe I am confuse. I thought that was Kelly Holcomb in that game? He was in a shootout with the Bengals.
OK, maybe I am confuse. I thought that was Kelly Holcomb in that game? He was in a shootout with the Bengals.
Holcomb lost a shootout with the Bungles in 2004, 58-48 when he threw 5 TDs and 2 Ints.
Anderson won a shootout with the Bungles in 2007, 51-45 when he threw for 5 TDs and 1 Int.
It was the first game after Frye was traded and Anderson was given the job much to the chagrin of Quinns Queefs.
Zombo
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Let's Give out Awards to the Performances of the Quarterbacks of the Cleveland Browns who have play here since 1999. Once upon a time there was a Fickle Finger of Fate Award given on some TV show...it may have been Laugh-In. I resurrect it here:
Best Overall career performance by a Cleveland Browns QB since 1999: Tim Couch
Best Single season performance by a Cleveland Browns QB since 1999: Derek Anderson
Best Single game performance by a Cleveland Browns QB since 1999: Kelly Holcomb (vs Cincinnati)
Worst Career performance by a Cleveland Browns QB since 1999: Brady Quinn (yes, even worse than BW3)
Worst Single Season performance by a Cleveland Browns QB since 1999: Doug Pederson
Worst Single Game performance by a Cleveland Browns QB since 1999: Charlie Frye 2007 Opening Game (so bad they immediately traded him) Honorable mention: Brandon Weeden opening game 2013, 4 interceptions.
Best performance in a season by a veteran brought in to be starter: Trent Dilfer 2005 (4-7 record)
Worst performance by a veteran brought in to be starter: Jeff Garcia
Best performance by a QB in relief of an injured or benched starter: Brian Hoyer 2013 (3-0)
Worst performance by a QB in relief of an injured or benched starter: Tie Ken Dorsey (0-3) 2008 and Seneca Wallace 2011
If you believe someone else should have won one of these awards, please let us know. Or, if you have another category, by all mean give it up.
Worst performance by a veteran brought in to be starter: Jeff Garcia
Do you guys think that Jake Delhomme would give Garcia a run for his money on this one? I remember everyone being really excited about him coming in before he got hurt and never really played again.
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Worst performance by a veteran brought in to be starter: Jeff Garcia
Do you guys think that Jake Delhomme would give Garcia a run for his money on this one? I remember everyone being really excited about him coming in before he got hurt and never really played again.
Do you guys think that Jake Delhomme would give Garcia a run for his money on this one? I remember everyone being really excited about him coming in before he got hurt and never really played again.
Jake was 2-2 as a starter for the Browns....compared to like Garcia's 3-9 or the like.
In reality, you might pop Dilfer/Garcia/Delhomme all in the same pot and it wouldn't matter who you pull out for best or worse.
I did not consider Jason Campbell in this category as he was not brought here to be the starter. (but his 1-7 record as a starter could get him the "worst of" trophy.
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Thad Lewis had the best QBR.
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Why did we dump McCoy completely again? Surely he was a good enough backup for us...or is that just creating a bad blood situation?
The 49ers felt good enough with him as backup all the way up to the conference championship game...
Here's the conspiracy version:
There were a lot of people - and careful before we set PG off again - that felt McCoy got shafted when they drafted Weeden. They could have given him another year in the WCO, which to be fair suits his skill set more than Weeden's, and used the 22nd pick on another receiver/blocker and seen what would have happened.
But, that didn't happen, and so there was a portion of the fanbase that wanted McCoy as starter, when Heckert and Holmgren had moved on to Weeden entirely, and just wanted to eliminate any QB debate.
The real reason - his skillset didn't suit Chorv's downfield offense, where Weeden's did, and they wanted other backups who could come in and run the same offense. McCoy's arm is notoriously weak, possibly due to the big shoulder injury he suffered in college, and he would have struggled to run that offense, so when we saw the chance to get some draft pick for him, we took it.
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Worst attempt to get out from under our Flag.....Weeden (That's when I knew for sure we were in trouble)
Mike
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OK, how about we give the same awards for the Browns, but not limit it to just since 99. Take the entire Browns history in play here:
Best Career Performance: Otto Graham. He would probably win this vs. any other QB in Pro football history. 10 consecutive championship game appearances. 7 wins. No one can match this.
Best Season: 1980 Brian Sipe MVP year
Best Game: Bernie Kosar, 1986 divisional playoff game vs. Jets. Brings Browns back from 10 pts behind to tie. Then wins in double OT. Sets the record that is still standing for most yards passing in a post season game. (is also, I believe still Browns best single game yard total)
Worst Career Performance. (Nominees include Weeden, Quinn, Frye). I have to go with Charlie Frye 6-13 career record. 14 TDs vs. 23 Ints. Unceremoniously shipped off after one game in 2007.
Worst Season. Doug Pederson. 2000. Went 1-7 as starter, had only 2 TDs in 8 starts, 8 ints.
Worst Game. To Be Announced later. Need to some thinking/research on this.
Best Performance by a Veteran in first year brought in to be the teams starting QB: Bill Nelsen, 1968. Went 9-2 as starter, took team to conference title game.
Worst Performance by a Veteran to be starting QB: George Ratterman, 1956 After those 10 straight title games, Ratterman brings first losing season to Browns. Went 1-3 with only 1 TD
Best Performance by a Relief QB to replace an injured/benched starter. Derek Anderson 2007. Went 10-5 replacing Charlie Frye.
Worst performance by a Relief QB to replace an injured/benched starter: Mike Pagel. Year after Browns go to AFC title game, Kosar gets hurt, Pagel goe 0-3 with 3 TDs 8 Ints. with a 46% completion rate.
Again, please feel free to name alternate winners in these categories or to name new awards.
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Didnt DA throw like 5TDs in his first start against cinncy???Quinn has to be up there for best single game against Detroit in '09
"We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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