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  • MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    Yes, and they offered very large signing bonuses and a high starting pay scale. The whole situation still sounded awful though.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      Only Submarines and Carriers have nuclear power now.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        Hydro electric is still an option. All you need is a river. There are turbines you can just let float (cabled of course) in a stream in your backyard and generate electric. Large scale dams should still be viable. What about fish/salmon? Build a stepped spillway off to the side that they can swim and jump up.

        Solar and wind are becoming much more viable because of increases in battery technology. An electric car battery fully charged can power a normal home for a few days.

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          Hydro electric is still an option. All you need is a river. There are turbines you can just let float (cabled of course) in a stream in your backyard and generate electric. Large scale dams should still be viable. What about fish/salmon? Build a stepped spillway off to the side that they can swim and jump up.

          Solar and wind are becoming much more viable because of increases in battery technology. An electric car battery fully charged can power a normal home for a few days.

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          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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          @pumpkin-eater said:

          Hydro electric is still an option. All you need is a river. There are turbines you can just let float (cabled of course) in a stream in your backyard and generate electric. Large scale dams should still be viable. What about fish/salmon? Build a stepped spillway off to the side that they can swim and jump up.

          Solar and wind are becoming much more viable because of increases in battery technology. An electric car battery fully charged can power a normal home for a few days.

          that's hard to believe. I don't know but it doesn't sem right...

          as far as a wind turbine vs hydroelectric there are a lot more houses with wind above than there are by fast running streams.

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            Steve, think about how much energy it would take to move 2 tons 60 miles at an average of 40 mph and it becomes less hard to believe.

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              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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              That does make it seem more likely. Just seems to me as a lot of constant pressure especially in the case electric heat in the winter or AC on a hot day.

              Then again plenty of things tend to confound me. 😁

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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                Just watched the latest Cosmos - I had to laugh, they basically took every climate change denial point/question and proved it wrong.

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                  Just watched the latest Cosmos - I had to laugh, they basically took every climate change denial point/question and proved it wrong.

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                  @gftchris said:

                  Just watched the latest Cosmos - I had to laugh, they basically took every climate change denial point/question and proved it wrong.

                  Well good.

                  When are we going to die?

                  (should I fill up the gas tank today or not?)

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                    @gftchris said:

                    Just watched the latest Cosmos - I had to laugh, they basically took every climate change denial point/question and proved it wrong.

                    Well good.

                    When are we going to die?

                    (should I fill up the gas tank today or not?)

                    WSS

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    @westside-steve said:

                    Well good.

                    When are we going to die?

                    (should I fill up the gas tank today or not?)

                    WSS

                    Did you actually watch it? It's not about saying we're going to die. It's saying that the level of CO2 in the air is increasing as a direct consequence of human activity. This has a knock on effect of warming and crazy weather. Eventually, if we do nothing about it, bad (worse) stuff will happen - Venus used to be like earth at one point, and then there was a build up of CO2 in the atmosphere that caused the warming.

                    We can still stop this from happening - not immediately, it's a massive thing to turn around, but it's still possible.

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      Well good.

                      When are we going to die?

                      (should I fill up the gas tank today or not?)

                      WSS

                      Did you actually watch it? It's not about saying we're going to die. It's saying that the level of CO2 in the air is increasing as a direct consequence of human activity. This has a knock on effect of warming and crazy weather. Eventually, if we do nothing about it, bad (worse) stuff will happen - Venus used to be like earth at one point, and then there was a build up of CO2 in the atmosphere that caused the warming.

                      We can still stop this from happening - not immediately, it's a massive thing to turn around, but it's still possible.

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                      @gftchris said:

                      Did you actually watch it? It's not about saying we're going to die. It's saying that the level of CO2 in the air is increasing as a direct consequence of human activity. This has a knock on effect of warming and crazy weather. Eventually, if we do nothing about it, bad (worse) stuff will happen - Venus used to be like earth at one point, and then there was a build up of CO2 in the atmosphere that caused the warming.

                      We can still stop this from happening - not immediately, it's a massive thing to turn around, but it's still possible.

                      No I didn't watch it. If I had I wouldn't have asked you, right? Anyway like I said before I saw one episode whilst channel surfing and it was kind of a junior high lecture about global warming saving the planet etcetera.

                      so apparently that is a repeated?

                      And one more time, just for the record, I certainly think the climate is changing some degree and assume mankind has some effect.

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                        @gftchris said:

                        Did you actually watch it? It's not about saying we're going to die. It's saying that the level of CO2 in the air is increasing as a direct consequence of human activity. This has a knock on effect of warming and crazy weather. Eventually, if we do nothing about it, bad (worse) stuff will happen - Venus used to be like earth at one point, and then there was a build up of CO2 in the atmosphere that caused the warming.

                        We can still stop this from happening - not immediately, it's a massive thing to turn around, but it's still possible.

                        No I didn't watch it. If I had I wouldn't have asked you, right? Anyway like I said before I saw one episode whilst channel surfing and it was kind of a junior high lecture about global warming saving the planet etcetera.

                        so apparently that is a repeated?

                        And one more time, just for the record, I certainly think the climate is changing some degree and assume mankind has some effect.

                        WSS

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        @westside-steve said:

                        No I didn't watch it. If I had I wouldn't have asked you, right? Anyway like I said before I saw one episode whilst channel surfing and it was kind of a junior high lecture about global warming saving the planet etcetera.

                        so apparently that is a repeated?

                        And one more time, just for the record, certainly think the climate is changing some degree and assume mankind has some effect.

                        WSS

                        Right, they're appealing to the mainstream, and the mainstream level of science intellect is junior high - I'd make some joke about it being lower in other states, but it's been done to death.

                        It's been mentioned in passing, but this is a whole episode dedicated to examining the evidence, predictions and reality, along with the 'comeback' questions you come across most often. It's a bit political, sure, but the fact that there are still people that need convincing, making it controversial/political astounds me.

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                          @westside-steve said:

                          Well good.

                          When are we going to die?

                          (should I fill up the gas tank today or not?)

                          WSS

                          Did you actually watch it? It's not about saying we're going to die. It's saying that the level of CO2 in the air is increasing as a direct consequence of human activity. This has a knock on effect of warming and crazy weather. Eventually, if we do nothing about it, bad (worse) stuff will happen - Venus used to be like earth at one point, and then there was a build up of CO2 in the atmosphere that caused the warming.

                          We can still stop this from happening - not immediately, it's a massive thing to turn around, but it's still possible.

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                          S Stewy wrote on last edited by
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                          @gftchris said:

                          Did you actually watch it? It's not about saying we're going to die. It's saying that the level of CO2 in the air is increasing as a direct consequence of human activity. This has a knock on effect of warming and crazy weather. Eventually, if we do nothing about it, bad (worse) stuff will happen - Venus used to be like earth at one point, and then there was a build up of CO2 in the atmosphere that caused the warming.

                          We can still stop this from happening - not immediately, it's a massive thing to turn around, but it's still possible.

                          Gee, too bad that there weren't people on Venus to stop it....but wait, how could there be global warming without people,especially those evil capitalist people?

                          Venus warmed because it was supposed to.

                          Global warming happens with or without humans. The earth has warmed and cooled throughout its history and you're a fool to you think you're gonna stop it.

                          Yes, human activity has contributed to the rise in Co2, but I bet they didn't tell you that human contribution amounts to nothing but a fart in a hurricane.

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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            Did you actually watch it? It's not about saying we're going to die. It's saying that the level of CO2 in the air is increasing as a direct consequence of human activity. This has a knock on effect of warming and crazy weather. Eventually, if we do nothing about it, bad (worse) stuff will happen - Venus used to be like earth at one point, and then there was a build up of CO2 in the atmosphere that caused the warming. Chris

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                            Oh, for goodness sake.

                            The buildup of CO2 ? Worried? Then why not discuss the DESTRUCTION OF MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF ACRES

                            OUR OUR WORLD's FREAKIN VIRGIN RAINFORESTS ???????????????????????????????????????????

                            That's my biggest beef with "global warning". It's a fraud. Unless woody and Chris think that there were people

                            on Venus....

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                              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
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                              I drive a Subaru Legacy Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle (PZEV) so I do my part.

                              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                So, instead of chirping like birdbrains like woody, and others, about why

                                we have to vote for democrats and higher taxes and more and more fees

                                and licenses for whatever actiivities, blah blah blah, liberal blah....

                                just once, will a lib "worried about our planet" read up on rainforests?

                                Just once, stop with the global warming nonsense about liberal land "mmgw"....

                                and.......learn.......and.....talk....about....the .....destruction....of ....our world's....RAIN FORESTS !!!!!!!

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                                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                  Every single ignorant wonk who parrots the lib line on "mmgw", so we have to

                                  raise more money to "x"....

                                  should just read up on the destruction of the virgin rainforests.

                                  Chris knows how to look stuff up on the internet, I'm sure. Maybe he can

                                  contact woodpecker and teach him, too.

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                                  http://www.rainforest-facts.com/rainforest-destruction.html
                                  Every year, 15 million hectares of tropical forests are cleared. At that pace, almost all the world's rainforests will be lost in 50 years.
                                  The current climate change is a very serious problem. The most vital role of rainforests today is that they are an enormous help in the fight against global warming.
                                  Burning rainforests, which is one of the ways to destroy them (when clearing land for agriculture), releases carbon dioxide, as do the side effects - decomposition of dead plant matter and oxidation of soils. So rainforest destruction is responsible for 17% of our annual carbon dioxide emission. This is more than all the world's cars, ships and aeroplanes release together.
                                  Through photosynthesis, rainforest plants absorb and store 4.8 billion tonnes carbon dioxide every year - equal to 10% of our annual greenhouse gas emissions, which increase global warming. By saving the forests we save a natural mechanism that removes some of the carbon dioxide that we humans put into the atmosphere.
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                                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                    Maybe that's where Woody comes from. Venus. A long time ago.

                                    That would explain his alien, dimwitted views on any subject.

                                    Lizard-type woodpecker people ruined Venus. Now there's a theory.

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                                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                      So, Chris, the next time you and your friends at the little coffee shop,

                                      sipping your latte', talk about the impending doom of mmgw, and how gov

                                      needs to regulate our bbq's, cows farting, our cars and lawmowers, and the

                                      regulation must be done by liberals in gov....

                                      just once....bring up rainforests. All these bandwagon "super concerned world citizens" keep

                                      yapping about co2.

                                      But do they ever give a frak about the rainforests? Nope. We're talkin "political nonsense group-think membership"

                                      methinks.

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                                        Now I can go have breakfast. 😎

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                                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                          Boy did someone rattle your cage!

                                          Yes, we need to stop the deforestation for a multitude of reasons - one of the main ones being the effect it has on global warming. Other reasons include the fact that deforested land causes landslides and generally destabilise the terrain (meaning that the farmland it produces gets washed away); habitats of countless species are being destroyed; and there are still people actually living in the rainforest.

                                          So next time, cal, you're stood around the barn, sippin' your moonshine, telling all your buddies how you pointed out about rainforests and felt real smug about it, maybe you could realise that this is a known part of the problem, that's also on the agenda.

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