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Mingo Just a Situational Play Role Player?

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  • Grossi.

    That's all I need to know to ignore the subject.

  • I think it's as simple as an Offense oriented HC and his FO seeing more possibilities in Mingo's college performance than a Defense oriented HC and his FO saw in Mingo's rookie NFL season. Not the first time it has happened... won't be the last.

    As for the worth of a role player... While I can't think of a more valuable role than designated pass rusher, spending a 6th on one is a luxury reserved for teams that are "one-piece away". The Browns have not been in that position for a very long time.

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  • " A 6th overall player taken should be a staple of any team and ALL-PRO."

    If we expand that to include people taken above 6th, that's 6 all-pro's being drafted every year, assuming that nobody below 6th is allowed to be all pro (though I suspect if he'd been drafted 7th we'd be talking about 7 every year). Average career of a player - call it ten years? So that's 60 all-pro players at any one time. Excluding special teams, obviously, there were 31 players in the all pro team this year.

    That's without even thinking about the merit of taking an RB, OG, ILB or other players you wouldn't really draft that high.

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  • I'm almost willing to bet Mingo will turnout to be a bust as predicted...He still does nothing that gives Me any sign he'll be anymore than what he already is..id trade him now if I could.

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  • nickersN nickers

    I'm almost willing to bet Mingo will turnout to be a bust as predicted...He still does nothing that gives Me any sign he'll be anymore than what he already is..id trade him now if I could.

    @nickers said:

    I'm almost willing to bet Mingo will turnout to be a bust as predicted...He still does nothing that gives Me any sign he'll be anymore than what he already is..id trade him now if I could.

    You mean, give him the Richardson treatment?

    Can't see it happening, Pettine and Jim O'Neill were apparently really high on the guy in last year's draft and can't wait to work with him this year.

  • it makes perfect sense to me that sheard was picked as having a great year. i think he's earned it myself. mingo needs to add some bulk and be more dominate.

    they need to utilize his long arms in a way where he bats down 3 passes a game and puts the ball in play for our D.

    12 sacks is cool but i'm greedy so give me 20.

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  • nickersN nickers

    I'm almost willing to bet Mingo will turnout to be a bust as predicted...He still does nothing that gives Me any sign he'll be anymore than what he already is..id trade him now if I could.

    @nickers said:

    I'm almost willing to bet Mingo will turnout to be a bust as predicted...He still does nothing that gives Me any sign he'll be anymore than what he already is..id trade him now if I could.

    I don't know about that quite yet. He was seen as a project from the get-go (and he still is) but you can't deny that he showed flashes last year that were impressive.

    I would say he deserves at least 2 more years before we decide whether or not he's a bust because it's still way too early to tell.

  • Mingo was drafted 6th because of his "freakish athleticism" and his "potential"............... Lots of coaches have been fired building a team full of guys who have potential.

  • it was a weak draft also. Finding players who could live up to the 6 pick, potentially, was a tough task. Everyone knew he'd have to add some bulk to be an every down player.

  • We'll know more on Mingo this year. I know our DC says he like him.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • Its safe to assume he's as good as he will ever be after one season.....right? Players simply don't develop.....they're as good as they'll ever be by the time they leave college.

  • The biggest thing standing in the way of Mingo being an every down linebacker is not his size it's his lack of coverage skills.

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  • one year as a body of work and you're ready to call him a bust?

    wow. there are some high standards around here.

  • No WAY. Mingo is boss. He WILL have 12 sacks

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  • CLEinCHIC CLEinCHI

    The biggest thing standing in the way of Mingo being an every down linebacker is not his size it's his lack of coverage skills.

    @cleinchi said:

    The biggest thing standing in the way of Mingo being an every down linebacker is not his size it's his lack of coverage skills.

    Nope. Its run defense. On passing downs hes rushing, most of the time. Id say hes probably already better in coverage than Kruger and Sheard. The coverage responsibilities will be left to the middle backers most of the time.

  • I don't see how Grossi came to that conclusion based off the quote about Sheard.

    I hated the Mingo pick and it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but a pass-rushing specialist is something that teams have to gameplan for. If Mingo can manage 1-1.5 sacks per game, he'll end up in the Hall of Fame.

    Between Mingo, Sheard, Kruger, Dansby, Robertson and Kirksey, I think our LB corps will be more similar to hockey lines than anything else. We'll have a pass rushing line, a run stopping line, a "get the ball" line, an all-around line, a prevent line, etc.

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  • Browns will be pinching themselves if mings average 1/2 sack/game.

  • I'm predicting 12 sacks for Mingo.

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  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    I'm predicting 12 sacks for Mingo.

    @poeticg said:

    I'm predicting 12 sacks for Mingo.

    Kiss of death

  • Did he get hurt? He had a really strong start to the season didnt he?

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