Anybody really think a baker should be forced to make
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I wanted to know where you personally pull your belief from... but I guess that was too much to ask.
Fine, I'll google it....
Here seem to be the most straightforward entries...
From Leviticus:
18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.So, I'm surprised you aren't for the death penalty for gays as well.
How about these?
Any person who curseth his father or mother must be killed
~Leviticus 20:9
If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be cut off from their people
~Leviticus 20:18
People who have flat noses, or are blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God
~Leviticus 21:17-18Leviticus 11:7-8:
7 And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. 8 You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.
Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)
Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)
Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)
Do you follow these things from the Bible as well? Or are you just picking and choosing what to follow based on whatever you feel like? Don't get me wrong, doing anything just because it is in an old storybook is stupid, but why do some things and not others? What makes some of it "right" and some of it "wrong". I thought this was written by God... shouldn't it all be infallible?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
There's a very big and very obvious difference between getting annoyed with 'Women in Technology' day, black students' association, People's front of Judea, and refusing to serve women, black people and jews.
Don't you mean the Judean Peoples Front?
Seriously, though, if someone doesn't want to bake me a wedding cake for whatever reason, and I go
to court to force him to do so, in addition to forcing 'sensitivity training' on him and all of his employees, then I
would have to think long and hard if I really want to eat anything made by this guy. Because I gotta tell you,
if I'm the cake-baker, that person is going to get the shittiest tasting cake he could ever imagine.
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I wanted to know where you personally pull your belief from... but I guess that was too much to ask.
Fine, I'll google it....
Here seem to be the most straightforward entries...
From Leviticus:
18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.So, I'm surprised you aren't for the death penalty for gays as well.
How about these?
Any person who curseth his father or mother must be killed
~Leviticus 20:9
If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be cut off from their people
~Leviticus 20:18
People who have flat noses, or are blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God
~Leviticus 21:17-18Leviticus 11:7-8:
7 And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. 8 You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.
Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)
Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)
Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)
Do you follow these things from the Bible as well? Or are you just picking and choosing what to follow based on whatever you feel like? Don't get me wrong, doing anything just because it is in an old storybook is stupid, but why do some things and not others? What makes some of it "right" and some of it "wrong". I thought this was written by God... shouldn't it all be infallible?
I wanted to know where you personally pull your belief from... but I guess that was too much to ask.
Fine, I'll google it....
Here seem to be the most straightforward entries...
From Leviticus:
18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.So, I'm surprised you aren't for the death penalty for gays as well.
How about these?
Any person who curseth his father or mother must be killed
~Leviticus 20:9
If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be cut off from their people
~Leviticus 20:18
People who have flat noses, or are blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God
~Leviticus 21:17-18
Leviticus 11:7-8:
7 And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. 8 You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.
Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)
Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)
Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)
Do you follow these things from the Bible as well? Or are you just picking and choosing what to follow based on whatever you feel like? Don't get me wrong, doing anything just because it is in an old storybook is stupid, but why do some things and not others? What makes some of it "right" and some of it "wrong". I thought this was written by God... shouldn't it all be infallible?
Woody, just to give you the general gist of Leviticus - whatever Jesus says goes, and when he came along he basically told people to not worry so much about the laws in Leviticus and the rest, so stuff you find in the old testament is basically reduced to fairy tales - unless you're jewish, obviously, in which case it's your holy book, hence why they don't eat pork etc.
So things in the old testament relating to mixing fabrics, not getting a tattoo saying homosexuality is a sin (it happens), and all the rest are disregarded. Look more at Steve's link about what the new testament and specifically Jesus had to say about it all, then discuss.
I have a friend who is both gay and christian, and we spent a while one evening going through the quotes to see what it says, and it turns out he's apparently going to hell! Point is, though, both of us agree the bible is wrong on this front, along with a whole load of our friends including our friends in the priesthood (or whatever position they hold).
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For those of you seething over the book of Leviticus has the New Covenant come into your thinking at all?
WSS ?
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Woody and Logic, we realize you guys hate the bible and make fun of people who are faithful. We get it. I don't care one way or the other what you believe to be honest. The thing with atheists is that they have to constantly grind away at making fun of it.
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I wanted to know where you personally pull your belief from... but I guess that was too much to ask.
Fine, I'll google it....
Here seem to be the most straightforward entries...
From Leviticus:
18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.So, I'm surprised you aren't for the death penalty for gays as well.
How about these?
Any person who curseth his father or mother must be killed
~Leviticus 20:9
If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be cut off from their people
~Leviticus 20:18
People who have flat noses, or are blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God
~Leviticus 21:17-18
Leviticus 11:7-8:
7 And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. 8 You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.
Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)
Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)
Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)
Do you follow these things from the Bible as well? Or are you just picking and choosing what to follow based on whatever you feel like? Don't get me wrong, doing anything just because it is in an old storybook is stupid, but why do some things and not others? What makes some of it "right" and some of it "wrong". I thought this was written by God... shouldn't it all be infallible?
Woody, just to give you the general gist of Leviticus - whatever Jesus says goes, and when he came along he basically told people to not worry so much about the laws in Leviticus and the rest, so stuff you find in the old testament is basically reduced to fairy tales - unless you're jewish, obviously, in which case it's your holy book, hence why they don't eat pork etc.
So things in the old testament relating to mixing fabrics, not getting a tattoo saying homosexuality is a sin (it happens), and all the rest are disregarded. Look more at Steve's link about what the new testament and specifically Jesus had to say about it all, then discuss.
I have a friend who is both gay and christian, and we spent a while one evening going through the quotes to see what it says, and it turns out he's apparently going to hell! Point is, though, both of us agree the bible is wrong on this front, along with a whole load of our friends including our friends in the priesthood (or whatever position they hold).
Woody, just to give you the general gist of Leviticus - whatever Jesus says goes, and when he came along he basically told people to not worry so much about the laws in Leviticus and the rest, so stuff you find in the old testament is basically reduced to fairy tales - unless you're jewish, obviously, in which case it's your holy book, hence why they don't eat pork etc.
So things in the old testament relating to mixing fabrics, not getting a tattoo saying homosexuality is a sin (it happens), and all the rest are disregarded. Look more at Steve's link about what the new testament and specifically Jesus had to say about it all, then discuss.
I have a friend who is both gay and christian, and we spent a while one evening going through the quotes to see what it says, and it turns out he's apparently going to hell! Point is, though, both of us agree the bible is wrong on this front, along with a whole load of our friends including our friends in the priesthood (or whatever position they hold).
For those of you seething over the book of Leviticus has the New Covenant come into your thinking at all?
WSS ?
See above?
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Woody, just to give you the general gist of Leviticus - whatever Jesus says goes, and when he came along he basically told people to not worry so much about the laws in Leviticus and the rest, so stuff you find in the old testament is basically reduced to fairy tales - unless you're jewish, obviously, in which case it's your holy book, hence why they don't eat pork etc.
So things in the old testament relating to mixing fabrics, not getting a tattoo saying homosexuality is a sin (it happens), and all the rest are disregarded. Look more at Steve's link about what the new testament and specifically Jesus had to say about it all, then discuss.
I have a friend who is both gay and christian, and we spent a while one evening going through the quotes to see what it says, and it turns out he's apparently going to hell! Point is, though, both of us agree the bible is wrong on this front, along with a whole load of our friends including our friends in the priesthood (or whatever position they hold).
For those of you seething over the book of Leviticus has the New Covenant come into your thinking at all?
WSS ?
See above?
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I googled for passages in the bible that say homosexuality is a sin. Those seemed to be the most clear cut.
I can throw those out then and try again though.Edit: Seems like there is a lot of debate.... of course
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Congrats on learning how to search the internet, woody.
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Congrats on not even being able to give me an answer. But hell, that's religion beliefs for ya. Making it up as you go along.
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Congrats on not even being able to give me an answer. But hell, that's religion beliefs for ya. Making it up as you go along.
Congrats on not even being able to give me an answer. But hell, that's religion beliefs for ya. Making it up as you go along.
My link didn't help you?
WSS
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I wanted to know where you personally pull your belief from... but I guess that was too much to ask.
Fine, I'll google it....
Here seem to be the most straightforward entries...
From Leviticus:
18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.So, I'm surprised you aren't for the death penalty for gays as well.
How about these?
Any person who curseth his father or mother must be killed
~Leviticus 20:9
If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be cut off from their people
~Leviticus 20:18
People who have flat noses, or are blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God
~Leviticus 21:17-18
Leviticus 11:7-8:
7 And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. 8 You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.
Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)
Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)
Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)
Do you follow these things from the Bible as well? Or are you just picking and choosing what to follow based on whatever you feel like? Don't get me wrong, doing anything just because it is in an old storybook is stupid, but why do some things and not others? What makes some of it "right" and some of it "wrong". I thought this was written by God... shouldn't it all be infallible?
Woody, just to give you the general gist of Leviticus - whatever Jesus says goes, and when he came along he basically told people to not worry so much about the laws in Leviticus and the rest, so stuff you find in the old testament is basically reduced to fairy tales - unless you're jewish, obviously, in which case it's your holy book, hence why they don't eat pork etc.
So things in the old testament relating to mixing fabrics, not getting a tattoo saying homosexuality is a sin (it happens), and all the rest are disregarded. Look more at Steve's link about what the new testament and specifically Jesus had to say about it all, then discuss.
I have a friend who is both gay and christian, and we spent a while one evening going through the quotes to see what it says, and it turns out he's apparently going to hell! Point is, though, both of us agree the bible is wrong on this front, along with a whole load of our friends including our friends in the priesthood (or whatever position they hold).
Woody, just to give you the general gist of Leviticus - whatever Jesus says goes, and when he came along he basically told people to not worry so much about the laws in Leviticus and the rest, so stuff you find in the old testament is basically reduced to fairy tales - unless you're jewish, obviously, in which case it's your holy book, hence why they don't eat pork etc.
Actually, Jesus supposedly said this which seems to contradict even his golden rule.
The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
-Matthew 5
And what Jesus preached was a far cry from the letters that Paul wrote. Unfortunately, Paul's views had more influence on the growing church, and they're the backbone of the mess of an organization it became.
34 Women[a] should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.[b]
-1 Corinthians 14
11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet.
-1 Timothy 2
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So basically, basing you discrimination against gays on the Bible is even more Retarded of an idea than I originally thought, and it was pretty stupid to begin with.
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NO. I DO NOT.
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Jesus never mentioned homosexuals Vapor.
WSS
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Bakery loses. I am pleased.
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Bakery loses. I am pleased.
Bakery loses. I am pleased.
They will appeal it.
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No doubts. Landmark case, most likely, will be going on for ages.
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Bakery loses. I am pleased.
Bakery loses. I am pleased.
As you know I have absolutely no problem with homosexuals but I am disappointed almost on a daily basis by the erosion of freedom.
WSS
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Yeah I don't care about most social hot button issues. I am pissed that government is dictating to a business how they can run it.
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