Connor Shaw
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i'm only yellow when i don't shake off all the piss before i puts it back in it's holster.
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If I go by only what I have personally seen, and not what someone else has told me, then I would pick Connor Shaw before Johhny Scramble. Now before some of you more "enthusiastic" JS zealots call me all sorts of names, (I'm sure you still will, the line forms in back) let me clarify. I, in my entire life, have only seen 1 JS game, and in that game, he didn't impress me in any way, shape or form. I have also seen the exact same amount of Connor Shaw as well, and in that game, he looked like the next Joe Montana and Brett Favre all rolled into one.
If I go by only what I have personally seen, and not what someone else has told me, then I would pick Connor Shaw before Johhny Scramble. Now before some of you more "enthusiastic" JS zealots call me all sorts of names, (I'm sure you still will, the line forms in back) let me clarify. I, in my entire life, have only seen 1 JS game, and in that game, he didn't impress me in any way, shape or form. I have also seen the exact same amount of Connor Shaw as well, and in that game, he looked like the next Joe Montana and Brett Favre all rolled into one.
I've seen all of Shaw's games and the majority of JFFs and couldn't agree more. Of course, that'll be discredited since I'm an obvious homer. JFF's flash gets him the nod, that's it - nothing else.
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If I go by only what I have personally seen, and not what someone else has told me, then I would pick Connor Shaw before Johhny Scramble. Now before some of you more "enthusiastic" JS zealots call me all sorts of names, (I'm sure you still will, the line forms in back) let me clarify. I, in my entire life, have only seen 1 JS game, and in that game, he didn't impress me in any way, shape or form. I have also seen the exact same amount of Connor Shaw as well, and in that game, he looked like the next Joe Montana and Brett Favre all rolled into one.
I've seen all of Shaw's games and the majority of JFFs and couldn't agree more. Of course, that'll be discredited since I'm an obvious homer. JFF's flash gets him the nod, that's it - nothing else.
I've seen all of Shaw's games and the majority of JFFs and couldn't agree more. Of course, that'll be discredited since I'm an obvious homer. JFF's flash gets him the nod, that's it - nothing else.
Well, there is that "he beat Alabama" thing, which Connor Shaw never did.
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If I go by only what I have personally seen, and not what someone else has told me, then I would pick Connor Shaw before Johhny Scramble. Now before some of you more "enthusiastic" JS zealots call me all sorts of names, (I'm sure you still will, the line forms in back) let me clarify. I, in my entire life, have only seen 1 JS game, and in that game, he didn't impress me in any way, shape or form. I have also seen the exact same amount of Connor Shaw as well, and in that game, he looked like the next Joe Montana and Brett Favre all rolled into one.
I've seen all of Shaw's games and the majority of JFFs and couldn't agree more. Of course, that'll be discredited since I'm an obvious homer. JFF's flash gets him the nod, that's it - nothing else.
I've seen all of Shaw's games and the majority of JFFs and couldn't agree more. Of course, that'll be discredited since I'm an obvious homer. JFF's flash gets him the nod, that's it - nothing else.
And his Heisman. And his 63 TD passes in 2 years. And his 172.1 QB rating last season, which was higher than Shaw's 162.9 rating. And his 5 TD's against Alabama. And his 70% completion percentage against SEC defenses. Those all probably help him get the nod, too.
Manziel threw more TD passes in his freshman year than Shaw did in any year, including his senior. Manziel threw more TD passes last year than Shaw did in his first three years. Shaw is a solid QB. Manziel is a better QB.
By the way, I'm a Gamecock fan.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
I've seen all of Shaw's games and the majority of JFFs and couldn't agree more. Of course, that'll be discredited since I'm an obvious homer. JFF's flash gets him the nod, that's it - nothing else.
And his Heisman. And his 63 TD passes in 2 years. And his 172.1 QB rating last season, which was higher than Shaw's 162.9 rating. And his 5 TD's against Alabama. And his 70% completion percentage against SEC defenses. Those all probably help him get the nod, too.
Manziel threw more TD passes in his freshman year than Shaw did in any year, including his senior. Manziel threw more TD passes last year than Shaw did in his first three years. Shaw is a solid QB. Manziel is a better QB.
By the way, I'm a Gamecock fan.
By the way, I'm a Gamecock fan.
really? i think WRRebel could hit that one out of the park.
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So does Hoyer, though.
We have a stable of hairless white boys.
Do you call the African Americans 'black boys'?
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I love Cocks, what can I say.
Go ahead, run wild.
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I love Cocks, what can I say.
Go ahead, run wild.
I love Cocks, what can I say.
Go ahead, run wild.
No need. That has been a given around here for quite some while.
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I've seen all of Shaw's games and the majority of JFFs and couldn't agree more. Of course, that'll be discredited since I'm an obvious homer. JFF's flash gets him the nod, that's it - nothing else.
And his Heisman. And his 63 TD passes in 2 years. And his 172.1 QB rating last season, which was higher than Shaw's 162.9 rating. And his 5 TD's against Alabama. And his 70% completion percentage against SEC defenses. Those all probably help him get the nod, too.
Manziel threw more TD passes in his freshman year than Shaw did in any year, including his senior. Manziel threw more TD passes last year than Shaw did in his first three years. Shaw is a solid QB. Manziel is a better QB.
By the way, I'm a Gamecock fan.
And his Heisman. And his 63 TD passes in 2 years. And his 172.1 QB rating last season, which was higher than Shaw's 162.9 rating. And his 5 TD's against Alabama. And his 70% completion percentage against SEC defenses. Those all probably help him get the nod, too.
Manziel threw more TD passes in his freshman year than Shaw did in any year, including his senior. Manziel threw more TD passes last year than Shaw did in his first three years. Shaw is a solid QB. Manziel is a better QB.
Those are some very impressive stats. Hey, wasn't Colt McCoy "the winningest QB in NCAA history"? That's a very impressive stat too.
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And his Heisman. And his 63 TD passes in 2 years. And his 172.1 QB rating last season, which was higher than Shaw's 162.9 rating. And his 5 TD's against Alabama. And his 70% completion percentage against SEC defenses. Those all probably help him get the nod, too.
Manziel threw more TD passes in his freshman year than Shaw did in any year, including his senior. Manziel threw more TD passes last year than Shaw did in his first three years. Shaw is a solid QB. Manziel is a better QB.
Those are some very impressive stats. Hey, wasn't Colt McCoy "the winningest QB in NCAA history"? That's a very impressive stat too.
Those are some very impressive stats. Hey, wasn't Colt McCoy "the winningest QB in NCAA history"? That's a very impressive stat too.
Yes he was. And he, too, would probably beat out Connor Shaw on the depth chart.
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Yes he was. And he, too, would probably beat out Connor Shaw on the depth chart.
Probably. But thanks for confirming that college stats guarantee success in the NFL. Oh, wait............
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Yes he was. And he, too, would probably beat out Connor Shaw on the depth chart.
Probably. But thanks for confirming that college stats guarantee success in the NFL. Oh, wait............
Probably. But thanks for confirming that college stats guarantee success in the NFL. Oh, wait............
Nobody ever said they did. In fact, I think you'll find that I've always said the opposite.
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Nobody ever said they did. In fact, I think you'll find that I've always said the opposite.
My bad, I was just reading:
And his Heisman. And his 63 TD passes in 2 years. And his 172.1 QB rating last season, which was higher than Shaw's 162.9 rating. And his 5 TD's against Alabama. And his 70% completion percentage against SEC defenses. Those all probably help him get the nod, too.
Manziel threw more TD passes in his freshman year than Shaw did in any year, including his senior. Manziel threw more TD passes last year than Shaw did in his first three years. Shaw is a solid QB. Manziel is a better QB.
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Nobody ever said they did. In fact, I think you'll find that I've always said the opposite.
My bad, I was just reading:
And his Heisman. And his 63 TD passes in 2 years. And his 172.1 QB rating last season, which was higher than Shaw's 162.9 rating. And his 5 TD's against Alabama. And his 70% completion percentage against SEC defenses. Those all probably help him get the nod, too.
Manziel threw more TD passes in his freshman year than Shaw did in any year, including his senior. Manziel threw more TD passes last year than Shaw did in his first three years. Shaw is a solid QB. Manziel is a better QB.
My bad, I was just reading:
I'm still waiting for you to point out where that says anything about the NFL.
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I'm still waiting for you to point out where that says anything about the NFL.
Well, I guess I was reading...........
And his Heisman. And his 63 TD passes in 2 years. And his 172.1 QB rating last season, which was higher than Shaw's 162.9 rating. And his 5 TD's against Alabama. And his 70% completion percentage against SEC defenses. Those all probably help him get the nod, too.
Manziel threw more TD passes in his freshman year than Shaw did in any year, including his senior. Manziel threw more TD passes last year than Shaw did in his first three years. Shaw is a solid QB. Manziel is a better QB.
Which lead me to believe that you were implying that Johnny Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche will be better than Shaw because of all the neat stats you listed. At the end of the above quote you say, "Manziel is a better QB", which followed all of the listed stats, and since neither play NCAA football any longer, and both currently are trying to play in the NFL, I assumed that you were using stats to say the Johnny Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche is the superior QB.
I must have read it wrong.
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I'm still waiting for you to point out where that says anything about the NFL.
Well, I guess I was reading...........
And his Heisman. And his 63 TD passes in 2 years. And his 172.1 QB rating last season, which was higher than Shaw's 162.9 rating. And his 5 TD's against Alabama. And his 70% completion percentage against SEC defenses. Those all probably help him get the nod, too.
Manziel threw more TD passes in his freshman year than Shaw did in any year, including his senior. Manziel threw more TD passes last year than Shaw did in his first three years. Shaw is a solid QB. Manziel is a better QB.
Which lead me to believe that you were implying that Johnny Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche will be better than Shaw because of all the neat stats you listed. At the end of the above quote you say, "Manziel is a better QB", which followed all of the listed stats, and since neither play NCAA football any longer, and both currently are trying to play in the NFL, I assumed that you were using stats to say the Johnny Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche is the superior QB.
I must have read it wrong.
Well, I guess I was reading...........
Which lead me to believe that you were implying that Johnny Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche will be better than Shaw because of all the neat stats you listed. At the end of the above quote you say, "Manziel is a better QB", which followed all of the listed stats, and since neither play NCAA football any longer, and both currently are trying to play in the NFL, I assumed that you were using stats to say the Johnny Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche is the superior QB.
I must have read it wrong.
My response was to someone who said "Johnny Manziel gets the nod over Shaw because he's a bigger media magnet" or something of that ilk.
As neither of them have played a down in the NFL yet, nor have either taken snaps with the same offensive players, I listed things Manziel had accomplished that Shaw had not against similar competition, in this case being the SEC.
I didn't say Manziel would be a better NFL QB, only that he was a better college QB and that's why he gets the nod over Shaw- not because he's a media magnet.
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Manziel has better college numbers.
Manziel has better college accoloades.
Manziel has more invested by the Cleveland Browns
that's why he gets the nod over Shaw.
Shaw was a good college QB and has potential to be a good NFL QB. But Manziel will get the first shot at it, between the two.
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And to a degree, Hoyer? I think we're going to see a lot of play action/bootleg/roll-out plays. Using the run to set up the run, primarily, then maybe throwing it occasionally.
And to a degree, Hoyer? I think we're going to see a lot of play action/bootleg/roll-out plays. Using the run to set up the run, primarily, then maybe throwing it occasionally.
Shaw mentioned somewhere in a local interview that they had some zone read in the playbook. It was pretty vague, but he and Johnny are perfect for that style, even if it isn't the bread and butter offense. Hope he latches on.
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I've seen all of Shaw's games and the majority of JFFs and couldn't agree more. Of course, that'll be discredited since I'm an obvious homer. JFF's flash gets him the nod, that's it - nothing else.
And his Heisman. And his 63 TD passes in 2 years. And his 172.1 QB rating last season, which was higher than Shaw's 162.9 rating. And his 5 TD's against Alabama. And his 70% completion percentage against SEC defenses. Those all probably help him get the nod, too.
Manziel threw more TD passes in his freshman year than Shaw did in any year, including his senior. Manziel threw more TD passes last year than Shaw did in his first three years. Shaw is a solid QB. Manziel is a better QB.
By the way, I'm a Gamecock fan.
Manziel threw more TD passes in his freshman year than Shaw did in any year, including his senior. Manziel threw more TD passes last year than Shaw did in his first three years.
How much would you attribute to system differences? Surely Sumlin's is more wide open than Spurier's... yes?
Which also begs the question of what JM's numbers would have looked like under Sherman...
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