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  • C calfoxwc

    1. I'm not backing out of anything. It's the content of the quotes. The meaning behind the words.

    They are attributed to Jefferson. If that's wrong, my email was quoting the wrong people.

    But woodypeckerhead, there is a huge

    difference between being wrong, and telling a lie. You are just an asshole, the butt of the board,

    woodypeckerhead. you don't know the difference, well, then you should get some counseling

    about living in the real world.

    2. woody hates. It's what libs do. Anything that someone thinks is good, they think it's bad,

    with no explanation. Anything that someone else things is bad, is good, with no explanation.

    It's a sad, sick way to exist. He must be very, very lonely. it's like mentally, he is allegedly graduated

    from high school, but still lives in an opaque bubble. Doesn't know what life is, or means.

    3. Let's just surmise that woodpecker is just like a mosquito that won't go away, who is only here to suck

    the blood out of every thread that isn't about a subject he approves of.

    4. Whoever really did say these quotes, I think they have a ton of merit. I like them.

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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    1. I'm not backing out of anything. It's the content of the quotes. The meaning behind the words.

    They are attributed to Jefferson. If that's wrong, my email was quoting the wrong people.

    But woodypeckerhead, there is a huge

    difference between being wrong, and telling a lie. You are just an asshole, the butt of the board,

    woodypeckerhead. you don't know the difference, well, then you should get some counseling

    about living in the real world.

    2. woody hates. It's what libs do. Anything that someone thinks is good, they think it's bad,

    with no explanation. Anything that someone else things is bad, is good, with no explanation.

    It's a sad, sick way to exist. He must be very, very lonely. it's like mentally, he is allegedly graduated

    from high school, but still lives in an opaque bubble. Doesn't know what life is, or means.

    3. Let's just surmise that woodpecker is just like a mosquito that won't go away, who is only here to suck

    the blood out of every thread that isn't about a subject he approves of.

    4. Whoever really did say these quotes, I think they have a ton of merit. I like them.

    1. They are attributed to Jefferson by people that have no idea what they are talking about, lol. They are doing this so people like you get a little Tea Party boner when you read it in a chain email. But you don't blame yourself for this incorrect info, you blame your email. You did post it here assuming it was fact. Alright. And you weren't lying, you were just being ignorant, ok. "I didn't meant to tell a lie, I'm just stupid".

    2. Nope, but that's your common response. "Liberals bad". Right.

    3. ...

    4. Alright. You are allowed to like them. Just don't act like Jefferson said them.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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    • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

      Truth is nonsense. It is all about sounding cool.

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      @logicisforsquares said:

      Truth is nonsense. It is all about sounding cool.

      Actually that is reality. I was interviewed Steven Wright and he talked about all the internet posts with jokes attributed to him and how it pissed him off. Not because somebody was using his name but because the jokes sucked. He said he really wouldn't mind if they were great.

      And all of our heroes from the founding fathers to the great generals to the spiritual leaders come from the pens of probably well meaning people.

      Was George Washington a hero? Was James T Kirk? Sure.

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        The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.-Thomas Jefferson

        Also fake

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          well, I didn't know they are fake.

          I still like the quotes though.

          You are still the butt of the board, little woodpecker asshole.

          That doesn't change for you. You're a stupid woodpecker.

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          • C calfoxwc

            well, I didn't know they are fake.

            I still like the quotes though.

            You are still the butt of the board, little woodpecker asshole.

            That doesn't change for you. You're a stupid woodpecker.

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            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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            @calfoxwc said:

            well, I didn't know they are fake.

            I still like the quotes though.

            You are still the butt of the board, little woodpecker asshole.

            That doesn't change for you. You're a stupid woodpecker.

            So basically you don't give a shit that they are fake so long as it agrees with your sensibilities? Now I know why so many people can be religious.

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              I go by the content of the words. It's a nice thing that Jefforson might have said them.

              But apparently he didn't. Who do you think I only agree with the words or not, depending

              on the political party, or fame, of the person who said them?

              Logic, really. You need to start looking at content, instead of gaging a popularity context

              on quotes.

              Armie Swartzenhauffenmakenich could have said a great thing about OUR 2nd Amendment,

              and I'd agree with it bigtime.

              I don't worship cultwise like a lot of libs do. Reality doesn't flip flop just because you

              know a person or not.

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                Lol. He just keeps digging deeper and deeper

                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                  Yep it is embarrassing to get fooled. Still think about it, does "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" meme less because Jack Kennedy's speech writer thought of it and him?

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                  • W Westside Steve

                    Yep it is embarrassing to get fooled. Still think about it, does "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" meme less because Jack Kennedy's speech writer thought of it and him?

                    WSS

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    @westside-steve said:

                    Yep it is embarrassing to get fooled. Still think about it, does "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" meme less because Jack Kennedy's speech writer thought of it and him?

                    WSS

                    Cal isn't being criticised for the content of the wrongly attributed quotes, but because it's symptomatic of his apparent failure to question what he is being told by whichever email, blog or opinion piece he reads.

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                      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                      Yeah you have to be careful. Still I didn't think any of those quotes sounded outrageous. But they were fakes so there ya go. Here's an article. It has some things he actually did say. So does that make a difference to you guys or not?

                      http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/07/us/jefferson-rorschach-guns/

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        I read the article and it talks a lot about how people take someone from 200+ years ago and use things he may or may not have said as an argument both for and against things happening today, spinning it how they want.

                        But the point was more about fact-checking of things being posted.

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          well, the woodypeckerhead and Chris can't stand being disagreed with...

                          too bad.

                          I just thought the stuff was interesting. I don't have to go research for an hour, to post

                          some stuff.

                          But, I will make sure to post a whole lot more of it, since their liberalwingnut feigned

                          victimhood that Jefferson apparently didn't say all those things.... that they find an

                          excuse for their childish bitchfest.

                          Perhaps you two would like to go mud wrestle in some gay bar or something.

                          I'm not going to factcheck everything I think is interesting. I liked the quotes, and

                          that's what I'm going with the next time. Who actually did the quoting doesn't really matter.

                          I kinda figured the bitchfest would happen with our resident liberal whiners about something,

                          but more along the lines of challenging the actual quotes themselves.

                          it would be a great bet, that they would bitch and bitch and bitch, even if Jefferson really did

                          say those things, and is there anyone besides them who doubts it? Especially,

                          the stinkin little woodpecker, the butt of the board. You libs have a nice day, you ain't

                          seen nothin yet.... @@

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            Well at least Chris gets it...

                            "Who actually said the quotes doesn't matter"

                            How many times is the name "Thomas Jefferson" in the first post?

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                              Cal, you really don't get why people are laughing at you, do you? It's not the content of the quotes, the gun control thing has been done to death a thousand times. It's the point that you are trying to put Jefferson up as, presumably, some great leader of the free world, with all these things he said on the topic of gun control, trying to cash in on his supposed gravitas. When called out on the mistake, you retreat to just saying 'well the quotes are nice' - perhaps, but that's not what you were trying to do.

                              The quotes themselves are another matter, and I'd argue that although they make for nice soundbites, you'd need to consider the relevance of these things from 200 years ago in today's world, but that's not the point.

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                                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                doesn't matter, Chris. I liked the quotes, and thought it was fun to

                                post them.

                                Up yours if you want to feign "offense"

                                ahahaha. Truth is, I don't care if he actually said them or not.

                                It ...was....just....an....email...that....was....going ....around.

                                You bitch about Jefferson not actually saying them, then you BITCH

                                that they are 200 years old.

                                That's just bitching to bitch about the content of the quotes, lefthandedly.

                                Go ahead, bitch. It's kinda almost funny, in a stupid kind of way.

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                                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                  If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.


                                  George Washington

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                                  • C calfoxwc

                                    well, the woodypeckerhead and Chris can't stand being disagreed with...

                                    too bad.

                                    I just thought the stuff was interesting. I don't have to go research for an hour, to post

                                    some stuff.

                                    But, I will make sure to post a whole lot more of it, since their liberalwingnut feigned

                                    victimhood that Jefferson apparently didn't say all those things.... that they find an

                                    excuse for their childish bitchfest.

                                    Perhaps you two would like to go mud wrestle in some gay bar or something.

                                    I'm not going to factcheck everything I think is interesting. I liked the quotes, and

                                    that's what I'm going with the next time. Who actually did the quoting doesn't really matter.

                                    I kinda figured the bitchfest would happen with our resident liberal whiners about something,

                                    but more along the lines of challenging the actual quotes themselves.

                                    it would be a great bet, that they would bitch and bitch and bitch, even if Jefferson really did

                                    say those things, and is there anyone besides them who doubts it? Especially,

                                    the stinkin little woodpecker, the butt of the board. You libs have a nice day, you ain't

                                    seen nothin yet.... @@

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    Who actually did the quoting doesn't really matter.

                                    The name Thomas Jefferson appears 16 times in the first post and is also seen in the thread title...

                                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                      It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

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                                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                        So basically you don't give a shit that they are fake so long as it agrees with your sensibilities? Illogic

                                        **************************************************************

                                        The sayings aren't fake, don't be a twit. Just that somebody else said them. Big freakin deal, not so much.

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                                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                          Discipline is the soul of an army. It makes small numbers formidable; procures success to the weak, and esteem to all.

                                          George Washington

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