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Thomas Jefferson and our 2nd Amendment and other important quotes

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  • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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    Yep it is embarrassing to get fooled. Still think about it, does "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" meme less because Jack Kennedy's speech writer thought of it and him?

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      Yep it is embarrassing to get fooled. Still think about it, does "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" meme less because Jack Kennedy's speech writer thought of it and him?

      WSS

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      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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      @westside-steve said:

      Yep it is embarrassing to get fooled. Still think about it, does "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" meme less because Jack Kennedy's speech writer thought of it and him?

      WSS

      Cal isn't being criticised for the content of the wrongly attributed quotes, but because it's symptomatic of his apparent failure to question what he is being told by whichever email, blog or opinion piece he reads.

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        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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        Yeah you have to be careful. Still I didn't think any of those quotes sounded outrageous. But they were fakes so there ya go. Here's an article. It has some things he actually did say. So does that make a difference to you guys or not?

        http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/07/us/jefferson-rorschach-guns/

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          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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          I read the article and it talks a lot about how people take someone from 200+ years ago and use things he may or may not have said as an argument both for and against things happening today, spinning it how they want.

          But the point was more about fact-checking of things being posted.

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            well, the woodypeckerhead and Chris can't stand being disagreed with...

            too bad.

            I just thought the stuff was interesting. I don't have to go research for an hour, to post

            some stuff.

            But, I will make sure to post a whole lot more of it, since their liberalwingnut feigned

            victimhood that Jefferson apparently didn't say all those things.... that they find an

            excuse for their childish bitchfest.

            Perhaps you two would like to go mud wrestle in some gay bar or something.

            I'm not going to factcheck everything I think is interesting. I liked the quotes, and

            that's what I'm going with the next time. Who actually did the quoting doesn't really matter.

            I kinda figured the bitchfest would happen with our resident liberal whiners about something,

            but more along the lines of challenging the actual quotes themselves.

            it would be a great bet, that they would bitch and bitch and bitch, even if Jefferson really did

            say those things, and is there anyone besides them who doubts it? Especially,

            the stinkin little woodpecker, the butt of the board. You libs have a nice day, you ain't

            seen nothin yet.... @@

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              Well at least Chris gets it...

              "Who actually said the quotes doesn't matter"

              How many times is the name "Thomas Jefferson" in the first post?

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                Cal, you really don't get why people are laughing at you, do you? It's not the content of the quotes, the gun control thing has been done to death a thousand times. It's the point that you are trying to put Jefferson up as, presumably, some great leader of the free world, with all these things he said on the topic of gun control, trying to cash in on his supposed gravitas. When called out on the mistake, you retreat to just saying 'well the quotes are nice' - perhaps, but that's not what you were trying to do.

                The quotes themselves are another matter, and I'd argue that although they make for nice soundbites, you'd need to consider the relevance of these things from 200 years ago in today's world, but that's not the point.

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                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                  doesn't matter, Chris. I liked the quotes, and thought it was fun to

                  post them.

                  Up yours if you want to feign "offense"

                  ahahaha. Truth is, I don't care if he actually said them or not.

                  It ...was....just....an....email...that....was....going ....around.

                  You bitch about Jefferson not actually saying them, then you BITCH

                  that they are 200 years old.

                  That's just bitching to bitch about the content of the quotes, lefthandedly.

                  Go ahead, bitch. It's kinda almost funny, in a stupid kind of way.

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.


                    George Washington

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                      well, the woodypeckerhead and Chris can't stand being disagreed with...

                      too bad.

                      I just thought the stuff was interesting. I don't have to go research for an hour, to post

                      some stuff.

                      But, I will make sure to post a whole lot more of it, since their liberalwingnut feigned

                      victimhood that Jefferson apparently didn't say all those things.... that they find an

                      excuse for their childish bitchfest.

                      Perhaps you two would like to go mud wrestle in some gay bar or something.

                      I'm not going to factcheck everything I think is interesting. I liked the quotes, and

                      that's what I'm going with the next time. Who actually did the quoting doesn't really matter.

                      I kinda figured the bitchfest would happen with our resident liberal whiners about something,

                      but more along the lines of challenging the actual quotes themselves.

                      it would be a great bet, that they would bitch and bitch and bitch, even if Jefferson really did

                      say those things, and is there anyone besides them who doubts it? Especially,

                      the stinkin little woodpecker, the butt of the board. You libs have a nice day, you ain't

                      seen nothin yet.... @@

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      Who actually did the quoting doesn't really matter.

                      The name Thomas Jefferson appears 16 times in the first post and is also seen in the thread title...

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          So basically you don't give a shit that they are fake so long as it agrees with your sensibilities? Illogic

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                          The sayings aren't fake, don't be a twit. Just that somebody else said them. Big freakin deal, not so much.

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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            Discipline is the soul of an army. It makes small numbers formidable; procures success to the weak, and esteem to all.

                            George Washington

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                              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              'Tits, ass and getting high. Thats what I'm talking about.'

                              JFF

                              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                'Tits, ass and getting high. Thats what I'm talking about.'

                                JFF

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                                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                'Tits, ass and getting high. Thats what I'm talking about.'

                                JFK

                                Fixed.

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                                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                  Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

                                  George Washington
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                                    Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

                                    George Washington
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                                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
                                    George Washington

                                    http://www.redstate.com/diary/barrypopik/2009/11/12/dubious-origins-of-a-george-washington-quote-on-government/

                                    Nope.

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                                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                      True friendship is a plant of slow growth, and must undergo and withstand the shocks of adversity, before it is entitled to the appellation.

                                      George Washington

                                      Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/george_washington.html#mhGrJbjy8C65wzKk.99

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                                        If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known, that we are at all times ready for War.
                                        Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/g/george_washington.html#mhGrJbjy8C65wzKk.99

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                                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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